"Lots Of Tough Guy War Talk"

[kpete]

GOP Debate 2015: Military Experience Of Republican Presidential Candidates Raises Questions Among Veterans And Advocate Groups

During a time when the U.S. is facing growing threats from the Islamic State group and renewed Russian aggression, among other military-related issues, does the president of the United States need to have military experience? And will the clear lack of it among Republican hopefuls be a factor?

http://www.ibtimes.com/gop-debate-2015-military-experience-republican-presidential-candidates-raises-2039777

[Scuba]

1. There's very damned few combat veterans advocating for more war.

[Victor_c3]

3. That's a point that too many people fail to notice

Nearly all of the pro-war veteran types that I've run into never saw any real action

[w0nderer]

6. this is so true n/t

[madokie]

4. Only those who didn't actually see war advocate for it

my experience with that issue that is.

It had a profound effect on me, one that totally changed my life and not for the better bur rather for the burden I carry on my shoulders for not doing more than I did to stop it once I got home. I did as much as I felt I could but looking back I realize I could have done more.

I went as a kid, came home as a troubled man.

Peace

[hobbit709]

2. Sherman nailed it.

"it is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated … that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation."

[951-Riverside]

5. John McCain wanted to bomb Iran and he openly supports arming terrorists in Syria...

Not only is this guy a vet but he was a POW.

Being a vet doesn't preclude one from being a war monger

[mountain grammy]

8. +1

[Victor_c3]

10. I wouldn't put him in the same category as a combat vet

I wouldn't put him in the same category of a combat vet like a guy who was an infantryman.

He dropped bombs from high in the air and spent time as a POW. He never had to actually see the impact his weapons have on men, women, and children like an infantryman does when they assess the dead and wounded after a firefight.

His service probably left him with a sense of pride while my service (as an infantryman) left me troubled and shamed.

[central scrutinizer]

7. On the ninth day of Christmas,

My true love gave to me,

Nine chicken hawks asquawking,

Eight REMFs ablustering ...

[Orsino]

9. Were they all veterans up there blustering...

...their bloodlust--or, let's be honest, proxy greed--would be no less reprehensible.

More worrying is their utter lack of experience and knowledge behind all the tough tak.

[olddots]

11. I thank the Clown Car for their service

Tin Soilder Turd Maggots for War Profits

[FairWinds]

12. Yeah, first the Neo-cons and the right call for the use of violence . .

(and looking at the last 100 years of Middle East history, the conclusion is
pretty much inescapable that the West started it . .)

and so now the violence does not work and/or blows back . .

and the Right's answer? More Violence!!

Veterans For Peace

[napkinz]

13. yep ...