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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:49 PM Dec 2015

If ending adjectives in "A" indicates female gender should it not be "Santo Claus" ?

I get that "Santa" is a nicname for 'Saint' and "Claus" for Nicholas but can't seem to find anything on the gender. Throughout Latin based languages "A" is always female and "O" is always masculine so how did this happen?

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If ending adjectives in "A" indicates female gender should it not be "Santo Claus" ? (Original Post) GreatGazoo Dec 2015 OP
It was changed during the 1890 Great War on Christmas. nt B2G Dec 2015 #1
those bastards! NT GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #2
Many casualties in battles that year. n/t trotsky Dec 2015 #7
Yes. It took the Elf on the Shelf battilion over 100 years to regroup. B2G Dec 2015 #8
Fragile, indeed after spending most of their time at the Elf on the Shelf Battilion Cotillion pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #10
Because it's of Germanic derivation? Cirque du So-What Dec 2015 #3
Yep:) freeplessinseattle Dec 2015 #14
Could be wrong but I think it's a corruption of the Dutch whatthehey Dec 2015 #4
From Dutch which is not a Romance language. TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #5
The Sanity Clause FrodosPet Dec 2015 #6
Thanks. That cracked it for me... GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #9
Are you familiar with Comparative mythology? TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #11
Santa err Santo is transgender and decided to go with Santa. Ok? bigwillq Dec 2015 #12
hugh! H2O Man Dec 2015 #13
I'm not seeing the problem here... pinboy3niner Dec 2015 #15
here's santo & his brother spanone Dec 2015 #16
I had a friend in the '80's, Dana, this guy who cleaned floors for a living. icymist Dec 2015 #17
When the Christians were trying to "push the product" in northern Europe 1939 Dec 2015 #18
It is also funny how we Americans pronounce Claus like "Claws" Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2015 #19
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
8. Yes. It took the Elf on the Shelf battilion over 100 years to regroup.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

They are a very fragile lot.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
4. Could be wrong but I think it's a corruption of the Dutch
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:55 PM
Dec 2015

Sinter Klaas rather than a borrowing from a Romance language where the gender suffixes are more in line with yours.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
5. From Dutch which is not a Romance language.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 01:58 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.history.com/topics/christmas/santa-claus
The name Santa Claus evolved from Nick’s Dutch nickname, Sinter Klaas, a shortened form of Sint Nikolaas (Dutch for Saint Nicholas).


Sinter probably became Santa in the US by children who said Santa instead of Sinter. Rural Texas used to call him Santy.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
9. Thanks. That cracked it for me...
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015
Since some elements of the Sinterklaas celebration are unrelated to Christianity, there are theories regarding the pagan origins of various customs of the holiday stemming from areas where the Germanic peoples were Christianized and retained elements of their indigenous traditions, surviving in various forms into modern depictions of Sinterklaas. Non-Christian elements in Sinterklaas that arguably could have been of pagan origin:

Sinterklaas rides the rooftops on his white horse which has various names; Odin rides the sky with his grey horse Sleipnir.
Sinterklaas gives chocolate letters to children, like Odin gave the rune letters to man.
Sinterklaas carries a staff and has mischievous helpers with black faces, who listen at chimneys to find out whether children are bad or good and report to Sinterklaas; Odin has a spear and his black ravens, Huginn and Muninn, who report what happens in the world to Odin


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas#Pre-Christian_Europe

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
11. Are you familiar with Comparative mythology?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:39 PM
Dec 2015

This is the comparison of myths and legends from many cultures and times. It appears that there are limited types of these myths and common themes run throughout the world. Many use this as proof that the major religions of the world are false, but there is the fact that all these people of divers backgrounds and times seem to come up with the same stories. So the commonality is as much a proof for as it could be a proof against theism.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
12. Santa err Santo is transgender and decided to go with Santa. Ok?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 03:42 PM
Dec 2015

Have some tolerance, please.

Now, where are my presents?

icymist

(15,888 posts)
17. I had a friend in the '80's, Dana, this guy who cleaned floors for a living.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:53 PM
Dec 2015

One of my great-grandfather's name is Asa. Another great-grandfather, Elijah ('H' is silent). Besides, This is probably what started Thomas Edison hating Nicola Tesla back in the day.

1939

(1,683 posts)
18. When the Christians were trying to "push the product" in northern Europe
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:58 PM
Dec 2015

Many of the attributes of the Germanic gods and goddesses were grafted on to Christian saints. Saint Nicholas acquired the attributes of Woden/Wotan/Odin.

Saint Valentine acquired the attributes of the god Vali.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
19. It is also funny how we Americans pronounce Claus like "Claws"
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:44 PM
Dec 2015

instead of pronouncing it so it rhymes with house. I know a German guy named Klaus (pronounced the rhymes with house way). He refers to himself as Santa Klaus when he gives out Christmas presents.

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