Mccain Backs Clinton's Call For A No-Fly Zone In Syria

[Purveyor]

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, recommended that President Obama establish a no-fly zone in Syria to protect refugees and those the U.S. have trained and are supporting against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

"I would say as Hillary Clinton has recommended and David Petraeus before the Senate Armed Services Committee recommended, and that is we establish a no-fly zone. And we have a buffer zone," he said in an interview on PBS's "Charlie Rose" that aired Monday night.

Clinton, Obama's former secretary of State and the 2016 Democratic presidential front-runner, made the recommendation last Tuesday during the first Democratic debate, setting herself apart from other less hawkish candidates.

She said she supported the establishment of such zones to gain leverage on Russian President Vladimir Putin, who began an airstrike campaign in Syria last month to shore up ally President Bashir Assad.

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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/257406-mccain-backs-clintons-call-for-a-no-fly-zone-in-syria

I soooo hope this comes up in the 'no one will be watching', final saturday before Christmas, debate. Specifically Ms. Clinton, will you order the shoot down of Russian jets should they cross into your, without legal authority, 'no fly zone'?

[leveymg]

1. I bet Gramps just yearns to suit up again and blast away at those MIGs, right. What's her urge?

Something is gnawing away inside there, has terribly sharp teeth, and it wants to come out.

[Purveyor]

3. I just hope the question is asked, pointblank...would she order the shoot down of Russian jets.

If the answer is yes or 'not taking anything off the table' then it is the final deal breaker for me. End of issue.

[leveymg]

5. By definition, that's what a No-Fly Zone in Syria would entail.

A lot of clarifying questions don't get asked by the corporate media. That's why they still have their cushy jobs and press passes.

[karynnj]

10. True -- and the media should ask the question - either one answers like Christie or tries to explain

a new meaning for no fly zone. Sort of like the new Cruz definition of carpet bombing - when it is clear that the normal meaning of the word suggests something few would be comfortable with.

I just hope that the long short of a political solution that Kerry has worked diligently on and which has a stated goal of a ceasefire by January means that real life takes that horrendous possibility off the table long before January 2017.

(In fact, could the likelihood of a more hawkish US in 2017, be an incentive to get political settlements in conflicts before 2017 in places other than Israel, which likely hopes it will get more under someone else?)

[leveymg]

13. By the same reasoning, why not threaten to nuke the place to accelerate surrender? Curt LeMay

would be proud. But, because there is still some sort of rough balance of terror with Russia, nobody's suggesting that. Yet.

BTW: Did you see the article that Turkey and Israel are reestablishing diplomatic relations? A few weeks ago, the UAE openly announced it now has commercial ties with Israel. There's a realignment going on, or is just that nobody thinks that old fictions count anymore?

A more hawkish US in 2017? If we really think diplomacy and trade works, how about taking this opportunity to unfreeze the New Cold War and work out a deal with Moscow? Imagine the possibilities if we really worked together to calm the Mideast?

[TwilightGardener]

2. That's how you know it's a great idea.

[killbotfactory]

4. No Fly Zone = Become the air force for "moderate" rebels fighting alongside Al Qaeda

Just like we did in Libya. Declare a NFZ, then bomb the side we don't like. What a fucked up world we live in.

[Purveyor]

8. Libya didn't have Russian jets operational in the region. Syria is a different cans of worms as

the legitimate gov't of Syria has formally requested the assistance of Russia not the USA/west.

[sonofspy777]

6. Oh Yeah Fucking Brilliant nt.

[angrychair]

7. Soooo

The bomb bomb bomb Iran guy agrees with HRC?
The hasn't been right about a thing in Syria yet guy agrees with HRC?

This is the company that idea keeps:
A number of Republican Presidential candidates have advocated for the NFZ, including Bobby Jindal, Carly Fiorina, and Chris Christie.

PBO has stated:
“When I hear people offering up half-baked ideas as if they are solutions, or trying to downplay the challenges involved in this situation – what I’d like to see people ask is, specifically, precisely, what exactly would you do, and how would you fund it, and how would you sustain it,” Obama said at a press conference. “And typically, what you get is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.”

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/10/14/3712208/a-no-fly-zone-in-syria-humanitarian-necessity-or-start-of-war-with-russia/

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Hawks of a feather threaten together.

[Monk06]

11. The story is from Oct 28. Since Mc Cain's gung ho gasm Assad stepping down and no fly zones are off

the table

[Purveyor]

12. Do you have copy where clinton says she no longer supports

a 'no-fly zone' for Syria?

[Monk06]

14. It was Kerry who reportedly said that Assad's departure is no longer a precondition for a ceasefire

As for the no fly zone that's a fait accompli since the Russians started their bombing campaign

I don't think Clinton has to have an opinion about it since she is outside the policy loop

My guess is she would see a no fly zone as irrelevent at this point

[Purveyor]

15. So no then. Hillary did not retract her 'no-fly zone' fantasies. eom

[Monk06]

16. To quote Hilary, "What difference does it make?" lol

[Purveyor]

17. I'm looking forward to see that in many a GOP campaign ad come the general. Good job keeping it

out there...