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The big news about Star Wars: The Force Awakens is spoiler alert that its good! Despite the prerelease hype, it wont save the world, not even Hollywood, but it seamlessly balances cozy favorites Harrison Ford, ladies and gentlemen and new kinetic wows, along with some of the niceties that went missing as the series grew into a phenomenon, most crucially a scale and a sensibility that are rooted in the human. It has the usual toy-store-ready gizmos and critters, but it also has appealingly imperfect men and women whose blunders and victories, decency and goofiness remind you that a pop mythology like Star Wars needs more than old gods to sustain it.
J. J. Abrams, the director of The Force Awakens, may not have the makings of a god or an empire builder like George Lucas, but he turns out to be what this stagnant franchise needs: a Star Wars superfan and pop culture savant. Given that the fans have been doing much of the heavy lifting for a while, holding up the franchise even as the filmmakers let them down with some titanic clunkers (Attack of the Clones why, George, why?), it seems fitting that the new film was directed by one of their own. Mr. Abrams was 11 when he saw the original Star Wars back in 1977; by the time he was a teenager, he had a gig cleaning Steven Spielbergs old student movies.
You could call Mr. Abrams a love child of Mr. Lucas and Mr. Spielberg, born to the blockbuster world they helped make. At its best, that world taps into the wonder that can come with new visions and realms, sending you into raptures with earthly delights or those in galaxies far away. Too often, though, this world gives privilege to special effects and anonymity over story, character, directorial vision or just a little creative intelligence. Instead, moviemakers bludgeon viewers, numbing them into quiescence with pictorial monotony punctuated by apocalyptic clamor, with the same repetitive story beats, explosions, close shaves and grindingly unsurprising saves. In these pictures, good invariably triumphs over every evil except moviemaking formula.
Mr. Abrams became a small-screen name with television shows like Alias before making a discouraging transition to film directing with the third, prophetically titled Mission: Impossible. He scaled down nicely for Super 8, getting his Spielberg on with a story about some kids who help an alien return home. Even better was his Star Trek, an enjoyable big-screen gloss on the 1960s series that he followed with a disappointing sequel, taking two steps back. Mr. Abrams is still trying to transcend the worst of the blockbuster imperative, but with The Force Awakens, he shows that he hasnt stopped learning and that the lessons have begun to pay off. (Hes backed by some of his regular crewmates, notably the cinematographer Dan Mindel and the editors Maryann Brandon and Mary Jo Markey.)
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niyad
(132,223 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I haven't seen it; may not see it. After Abrams utterly destroyed the Star Trek universe, and George Lucas destroyed the Star Wars universe, I am not anxious to see what JJ has in store to destroy that which has already been destroyed.
But a few of my friends have talked about seeing it. If they go, I will likely also. Otherwise, I won't.
Myself, I would have Luke going to the dark side. He never completed his training with Yoda. It seems like an easy plot twist.
I wonder what fuzzy aliens we'll see in this one, ripe for product exploitation. Too bad they did not release it in mid November, well before Christmas so that they could get the merchandise into Toys R Us in time for the after Thanksgiving rush.
Star Wars! Arrrrgh! (No! That was no Wookie Monster; that was me.)
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but we are nerds... and I use that with all the affection the term deserves.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I'm a picky, snooty, impossible to please fan and I loved every minute of this film.
longship
(40,416 posts)He threw out the entire historic story line that goes back decades. Instead of meaningful and culturally relevant story lines, we get action Jackson. He turned the Enterprise engineering deck from a high tech wonder into a fucking brewery! He turned Spock from a thoughtful dedicated officer who put logic and reason above all else into one who would jeopardize his position and career to have an affair with junior officer, which is not only unSpocklike, but unethical. He should be court martialed. And JJ tosses out Kirk's history and makes him a spoiled brat without any experience whatsoever, again counter to the history of the series. And all Star Fleet officers are somehow fine with this junior cadet getting the command of a starship, jumping over every officer senior to him?
Yes, JJ Abrams is a Hollywood hack who cares nothing whatsoever about Star Trek.
Plus, there's the fucking lens flare!!!! And again, the fucking beer vats in the Enterprise engineering section! No wonder JJ's Star Trek is so horrible. Everybody was fucking drunk. Worse yet, on Budweiser!! Which had convenient product placement.
I despise JJ Abrams.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I don't think Abrams was at all suited to the Star Trek universe. At no point did I ever feel he bought into the conceits that drive Trek-style stories. He's a perfect fit for Star Wars, however. It's clear he lives and breathes the Star Wars universe.
I didn't notice any particular amount of lens flare abuse in Episode VII, thankfully.
longship
(40,416 posts)And as I wrote above, JJ can't possibly damage the franchise any more than George Lucas has already done. Only the first two films, (episodes 4 and 5) are any good. The first because it cut new ground in the space opera genre, the second because it was a tight direction and had some good story telling and plot twists. The rest of them, Lucas jumped the shark. Star Wars product placements abound. The movies took a back seat to marketing. That is why people hate Lucas so much. He killed his own golden goose.
That is the only reason why I would want to see this one. Although all the hype makes me want to throw up, I may still see it, just to see if it can be resurrected to something reasonably good. I am not to optimistic. But it can't possibly be worse than episode 1 of the second trilogy. One hopes.
My best to you.
ProfessorGAC
(76,635 posts). . .according to the original chronology, Kirk was the youngest person ever to command a starship. So, his very existence in the show has been consistent with him jumping over more experienced officers.
Secondly, Starfleet doesn't have regulations about love affairs as is evidenced, albeit nearly a century later, with Troi and Riker, who rekindled their affair when Riker was the executive officer of the ship.
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)and me too.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)That good.
hunter
(40,671 posts)Amazing.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)How the hell you pull that off?
hunter
(40,671 posts)Yes, it is true Codeine and I are rarely on the same page about anything, especially shaving.
I hate razors. Wax? Oh god no!!!
Whenever we do, as in this circumstance, please remember Star Wars is just a movie.
My dark self isn't anyone you'd want to see or make a movie with.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I was wondering how the hell you guys managed to get in so early and see the thing and still be posting on DU. Impressed, really.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)When my wife got tickets I assumed they would be a midnight thing but the showings started at 6:30 Thursday.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)I don't get the hype.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You know, the ones those damn kids wont get off of.
yuiyoshida
(45,397 posts)she will then leave for Japan in the morning and be there for 3 weeks. I am sure she will love it, and I will eventually see it, sooner or later.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)It was awesome and I'm a Trekkie..I leave for London in 2 days, will prob go see it again there too..
longship
(40,416 posts)JJ Abrams is a hack.
I might see the new Star Wars, because Lucas was also a hack. So JJ might fit to revive the series. The first two were pretty good.
See my post above (#7) about JJ's Star Trek, which I despise, as any good Trekie would.
TBF
(36,589 posts)but I'm going tonight. Looking forward to it!
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Got home at 1:30 am, but have to leave for work so I just didn't go to sleep.
It actually got better with the second viewing, and the first viewing was pretty damn good. So much more became evident; I hadn't realized just how ... Thorough, I think is the word I want ... the movie was.
If you liked Star Wars or Empire, you'll love everything about this movie.
miyazaki
(2,646 posts)And the same filmmaker served up the Trek franchise as well. Unbelievable.