No-both sides aren't equally guilty

[catnhatnh]

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The Clinton campaign and DWS delberately colluded to deny a fair primary to the American people. While I find the remarks fron Clinton and her spokespeople contemptible they are paragons of virtue compared to DWS whose supposed entire job is to see all campaigns are treated fairly. DWS must be fired while there is still a chance for the remnants of the party. As to Clinton, I believe the voters have their own rebuke in mind for her.

[marym625]

1. K&R!

[daleanime]

2. Yeahup.....

[PatrickforO]

3. Yep.

And we SEE it plainly because we ourselves are controlling the dialog.

[pnwmom]

4. Yeah, right, because it was so TERRIBLE of the DNC to think that the debates

should be on the major networks and PBS -- so anyone could see them, as long as they had a TV. No computer or cable contract required.

Guess what. The networks didn't want their evening programming preempted so they only would agree to host them on the weekends. So the DNC agreed. And Saturday nights are also when the Rethugs are having their only network debates.

But the Rethugs don't care if people without cable or computers are closed out, so they didn't mind scheduling the majority of their debates outside of the major networks.

[Kalidurga]

5. You mean like CNN

[pnwmom]

7. 4 of the 6 are on network and PBS. The other two will be streamed,

but that's obviously not optimal since more people have TV's than computers or cable.

[Kalidurga]

8. NOT GOOD ENOUGH DWS

[pnwmom]

11. How many times do we need to hear Bernie say the same things?

How would he get through 20 debates without sounding like a broken record?

[Kalidurga]

12. There really aren't a whole lot of issues that are important to people.

Everyone is effected by the economy so that being the major issue he talks about is very appropriate. Talking about the economy in terms of institutional racism is also a very important issue he talks about. Talking about social injustice is also important an he talks about that. What more do you want him to talk about. I will tell Marvin and he can tell some higher ups to pass your concerns along to even higher ups.

[pnwmom]

13. Which is why so many debates is overkill. It's not like we've got 15 candidates. We have 3.

[Kalidurga]

14. Most people won't watch 26 debates.

Having more debates means more people will watch at least one debate as it would be easier to fit into their schedules.

[catnhatnh]

6. You ever hear of "She doth protest to much"

It implies a guilty conscience. I said nothing about the timing of the debates. I don't happen to like it but I could just as easily have been referring to the number (6 in this cycle as opposed to 26 in the last) or any other manner of Little Debbie's thumb on the scale. And incidentally-while you can pull that excuse about the network out-even in the absence of proof, no one believes PBS is determined to keep to any schedule...

[pnwmom]

9. Why do 3 candidates need so many debates? It makes sense in the clown circus of the GOP,

but having dozens seems like major overkill.

Especially when one of the candidates has basically one answer for everything.

[Sherman A1]

19. Question

what was the viewership of the last RNC debate vs the expected viewership of the DNC debates?

[pnwmom]

20. Question. What reality show star is busy stirring up a shitstorm at the Dem debates?

People tune in there for the craziness. Ours are too sane. People watch a few and think: "they're all pretty good, but I like X." And they don't feel that driven to keep watching.

[SunSeeker]

21. Excellent summary of why we have Saturday Dem debates.

Thanks, pnwmom.

[BlueMTexpat]

23. Thanks so much for trying to explain.

But it's apparently a lost cause on DU.

Some also seem to forget that in the 21st century, we are easily able to record debates and replay them at more convenient times. We are hardly in the Dark Ages.

As it happens, I live abroad - in a time zone six hours ahead of CST. Unless I stay up very late and stream, when streaming is an option, I don't get to watch US debates live at all. I am able to stay up late for Sat night debates because the next day is Sunday and I have no major reason to rise early. At 70+, I am not usually out and about carousing on Sat nights.

Our local Dems Abroad group records the debates and replays them for us in the following week at different gathering places in the country.

It is hardly an impossible hurdle ... if one is truly motivated.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

10. Did you not see the GD/GD-P gateway page that allows you to...

...choose the correct forum in which to post your OP?

[6000eliot]

16. I couldn't care less about any of this,

but I do find it amusing to imagine how the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who are upset about how the DNC handled Sanders would be HOWLING if the breach had been committed by the Clinton campaign. I'm sure we wouldn't hear the end of it even after the election.

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. ^^^ THIS ^^^. And despite all the protests, someone lost their job. Why did he get fired?

If there was no wrongdoing by the BS campaign, this guy has grounds for a lawsuit against his former employer.

[BlueMTexpat]

24. Exactly. eom

[Hekate]

18. Sanders' guys were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. He owes HRC and DNC an apology...

Playing the victim and actually filing a lawsuit the way Sanders is doing is the height of hypocrisy and chutzpah.

[brer cat]

22. Self-imposed victimhood

is very unappealing and trite, and it diminishes your candidate.

[TexasTowelie]

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