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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Wed May 30, 2012, 09:58 PM May 2012

Dylan and the "medal of freedom" award


If I were Dylan I would send a letter.
It would be like this:

Mr. President,

As long as Bradley Manning is imprisoned and tortured, as long as drones kill and maim innocent human beings, as long as medical marijuana dispensaries are raided, as long as people are imprisoned without access to legal counsel, as long as these things exist in America I will NOT accept any medal of anything from you.

Sincerely,
Bob

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But then again the sixties were a long time ago...eh?


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Dylan and the "medal of freedom" award (Original Post) SHRED May 2012 OP
The medal of freedom is given to him for what he has done, not what the administration has done still_one May 2012 #1
Exactly SHRED May 2012 #2
I'm sure he's devastated that you think he's sold out to the man...nt SidDithers May 2012 #3
Lol SHRED May 2012 #4
perhaps he's only the messenger...the minstrel. the thought provoker. spanone May 2012 #10
Bob Dylan moved away from PatSeg May 2012 #13
A much different Dylan in 2010 though PatSeg May 2012 #15
Bob was never, ever into politics nor did he take part in protests then 'move away' Bluenorthwest May 2012 #20
I have a vague memory of a press conference PatSeg May 2012 #24
If you want someone to Skidmore May 2012 #19
Did you feel the same about To Kill a Mockingbird when Harper Lee Bluenorthwest May 2012 #21
There has never been, and there will never be, a time where nothing bad goes on in any country. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #5
diffusion and pablum... SHRED May 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ManyShadesOf May 2012 #11
If you want to defang potential dissenters, get them to sell Cadillacs and give them medals. JVS May 2012 #6
Who'd a thunk that Mr. Bob Dylan would end up with a fancy ribbon and medallion and join the sad sally May 2012 #8
maybe ManyShadesOf May 2012 #9
Of course you're not Dylan, and he's not you onenote May 2012 #12
You are correct SHRED May 2012 #14
More to the point, you would never have the opportunity to accept such an award onenote May 2012 #16
Ad Hominems SHRED May 2012 #17
because ManyShadesOf May 2012 #18
sorry, but that was to the point cali May 2012 #22
The sixties me is pretty much dead, too... Wounded Bear May 2012 #23
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. Exactly
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:07 PM
May 2012

His protest songs mean less to me now.
He would have backed up his protest songs with a letter like I propose.

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spanone

(135,824 posts)
10. perhaps he's only the messenger...the minstrel. the thought provoker.
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:09 PM
May 2012

it's enough to write the songs, he shouldn't be responsible for setting the world straight.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
13. Bob Dylan moved away from
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:18 PM
May 2012

protests and politics many, many years ago. A lot of fans felt betrayed, but he wanted to pursue his music first and foremost. I think the change may have been the reason why Dylan and Joan Baez drifted apart (well, think he dumped her actually).

I love Bob Dylan's music, but I think the person is a bit of a jerk. It could be he's incredibly shy, so I'll give him some benefit of doubt. I thought he was a bit obnoxious yesterday, never cracking a smile and keeping his shades on. He didn't have to go the White House to accept the medal, but being he did go, he could have acted like he gave a shit.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Bob was never, ever into politics nor did he take part in protests then 'move away'
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:16 PM
May 2012

He has never been politically active, people project that onto him for his work is political at times, and it expresses his opinion. He was not an organizer nor an activist, not even in the way other musicians were. To claim that he was is not accurate.
Bob is an artist, not a political leader. I'll point out that Harper Lee got the Presidential Medal of Freedom from George W Bush. Anyone think Ms Lee should have refused the award or sent a terse note? I think that she, like Dylan, deserved the award.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
24. I have a vague memory of a press conference
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:31 PM
May 2012

where Dylan was barraged with questions about how his music had changed and he was trying to explain that for him, it was about the music, not any causes.

His music certainly deserves recognition, though I have mixed feelings about Presidential medals. I don't know how necessary or important these rituals are. His music will live long after he's gone, so that should be plenty of recognition of his contribution.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Did you feel the same about To Kill a Mockingbird when Harper Lee
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

accepted her Medal of Freedom from GW Bush?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. There has never been, and there will never be, a time where nothing bad goes on in any country.
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:23 PM
May 2012

If that's what you're waiting for, you will have a loooooooong wait. That's not how the world is.

If it weren't those things you name (which some people disagree with you about, BTW), then there would be other equally distressing things to name. Other people would have a different list, as well.

Those things have nothing whatsoever to do with an award given by the President.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
7. diffusion and pablum...
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:37 PM
May 2012

...are not an option for excuses towards a man who wrote Masters of War...IMHO

Response to SHRED (Reply #7)

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
8. Who'd a thunk that Mr. Bob Dylan would end up with a fancy ribbon and medallion and join the
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:48 PM
May 2012

likes of Sec of Defense Dick-less Chaney and VP Dick-torture Chaney with this "prestigious" award?

onenote

(42,698 posts)
12. Of course you're not Dylan, and he's not you
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:11 PM
May 2012

I'm going to guess that Bob is more talented than you and you're pretending to know what you would do if you were him is the product of your being tired.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. You are correct
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
May 2012

We are different. I would not accept the award with the letter I posed in my OP. Bob did without a whimper.

The sixties Dylan is dead.

onenote

(42,698 posts)
16. More to the point, you would never have the opportunity to accept such an award
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:58 AM
May 2012

So your saying what you would do is empty posturing.

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