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[liberalnarb]

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[packman]

1. Oh , God-

Fox balloon heads are going to have a field day with this.

[liberalnarb]

3. They made it clear that this does not dispute the beliefs of climate scientists about fossil fuels

and climate change

[Adrahil]

2. That headline is a complete misinterpretation of the facts....

Dear gawd we're doomed.

[liberalnarb]

4. Its the headline the writer gave it.

I'm not trying to mislead DUers.

[Adrahil]

5. Right.. that's why I said headline and not OP title..... nt

[liberalnarb]

9. Sorry, I didnt want to have a misunderstanding and get reported to the boys upstairs.

[Adrahil]

13. s'okay. :)

[muriel_volestrangler]

8. You are allowed to use your own title in GD

The least you could do is put "Daily Express:" in front of it, then we'd know it's a RW British tabloid claiming it incorrectly, not NASA.

[liberalnarb]

10. Jesus, time to find a different source.

I'll poke around

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. You could use the NASA press release I linked to in #7 (nt)

[whatthehey]

6. They seem to be doing a piss poor job of it generally speaking

but sure in a specific narrow temporary sense I suppose I could buy it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. "existing climate change models have underestimated at the future impact on global temperatures"

It's not 'the planet' that is cooled; it's "parts of the northern hemisphere". And the overall effect:

But, rather than being good news, NASA has concluded the lack of taking these factors into account means existing climate change models have underestimated at the future impact on global temperatures will be.

The new calculations reveal their complexity, said Kate Marvel, a climatologist at GISS and the paper's lead author. “Take sulfate aerosols, which are created from burning fossil fuels and contribute to atmospheric cooling,” she said. “They are more or less confined to the northern hemisphere, where most of us live and emit pollution. There's more land in the northern hemisphere, and land reacts quicker than the ocean does to these atmospheric changes.”

Because earlier studies do not account for what amounts to a net cooling effect for parts of the northern hemisphere, predictions for TCR and ECS have been lower than they should be. This means that Earth's climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide — or atmospheric carbon dioxide's capacity to affect temperature change — has been underestimated, according to the study. The result dovetails with a GISS study published last year that puts the TCR value at 3.0°F (1.7°C); the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which draws its TCR estimate from earlier research, places the estimate at 1.8°F (1.0°C).

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20151218/

[liberalnarb]

12. Is what they're saying false?

I'm not being sarcastic, I want to know if I should delete