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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Dec 2015 OP
so true Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #1
The powers that be at DU don't agree with you and me. TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #4
"disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate" philosslayer Dec 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #3
One can "discuss" philosslayer Dec 2015 #20
Disruption is subjective. A problem I see is that in my opinion some are using rhett o rick Dec 2015 #14
You seem to have many experiences pintobean Dec 2015 #5
I always find these comments interesting from you. n/t Chan790 Dec 2015 #8
It is a conspicuous observation from someone so new to the site. Orrex Dec 2015 #22
Maybe Old Codger Dec 2015 #9
Just pointing out a tell pintobean Dec 2015 #15
OK N/T Old Codger Dec 2015 #16
Sorry, that wasn't humor philosslayer Dec 2015 #19
Not true. pintobean Dec 2015 #21
Bullying attempt. Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #30
I noticed that too Android3.14 Dec 2015 #31
Good luck with that dumbcat Dec 2015 #6
Translation: Someone hid my post. FSogol Dec 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #11
Go for it. n/t FSogol Dec 2015 #13
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex Dec 2015 #26
Been here 4 days and already understands the jury system. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #17
Literate and a bit of a blowhard, to boot. Orrex Dec 2015 #25
In fairness, it was a bogus hide. Orrex Dec 2015 #28
+1000. Very good post. Hortensis Dec 2015 #10
Excellent post. Atman Dec 2015 #18
I agree in general with your post. But you've got me curious MH1 Dec 2015 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #29
i tend to be live and let live on jury time...but there are times that steps must be taken dembotoz Dec 2015 #24
I serve on a lot of juries. cwydro Dec 2015 #27
I've seen it JackInGreen Dec 2015 #32
Locking thread. TexasTowelie Dec 2015 #33
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. so true
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 09:54 AM
Dec 2015

It hurts to let many stand I do not agree with the post or poster, but I do as it is my honor on the line. What annoys me is the number of baseless alerts lately.

TexasProgresive

(12,703 posts)
4. The powers that be at DU don't agree with you and me.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:08 AM
Dec 2015

I posted an OP at "Ask the Administrators" take a look at the response:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12599144

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
2. "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate"
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 09:59 AM
Dec 2015

Is in the eye of the beholder. These are very broad categories, by design as per the people running this site. I for one appreciate the ability to possibly remove posts that offend the cultural norms at DU. There are lots of other sites that people can go to if they want to read offensive or inflammatory.

The ability to remove "disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate" posts maintains DU as a "safe space" of sorts for progressives to discuss the issues of the day in a comfortable environment.

Response to philosslayer (Reply #2)

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
20. One can "discuss"
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:37 AM
Dec 2015

While at the same time being civil. But sometimes, opinions or facts make people uncomfortable or are off topic. These types of posts are rightly alerted on and sometimes hidden.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. Disruption is subjective. A problem I see is that in my opinion some are using
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:28 AM
Dec 2015

the alert and jury system as tactics to silence views other than their own point of view. IMO these tactics get hatched in the Think Tank.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
5. You seem to have many experiences
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:14 AM
Dec 2015

for someone with less than four days of DU membership.

IBTL

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. I always find these comments interesting from you. n/t
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:22 AM
Dec 2015

Orrex

(66,813 posts)
22. It is a conspicuous observation from someone so new to the site.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:43 AM
Dec 2015

It's rather like when a new employee, with minimal familiarity with a company's dynamic, rolls in and starts telling the seasoned employees how things should run.

Sure, the new person might have extensive and relevant experience, but in the context of DU such people usually identify themselves as "long time lurkers," or else they turn out to be reincarnations of the newly departed.


Pointing this out is not bullying. It is a straightforward and reasonable observation presented in a straightforward and reasonable manner.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
9. Maybe
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:22 AM
Dec 2015

You could explain what the OP's time on the board has to do with whether or not that is a valid idea or not?? would really like to see that

Thanks

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
15. Just pointing out a tell
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:28 AM
Dec 2015

with an attempt at humor.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
16. OK N/T
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dec 2015
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
19. Sorry, that wasn't humor
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:34 AM
Dec 2015

It was bullying. You dismissed the validity of the comment because the poster hadn't been "in the club" long enough.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
21. Not true.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:38 AM
Dec 2015

It's an invalid whine no matter who is posting it.

As to whether it was humor, or not, is up to members who have been here long enough to get the reference to a former member.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
30. Bullying attempt.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
31. I noticed that too
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:01 AM
Dec 2015

Might be nothing. Might be something. Certainly notable.

dumbcat

(2,158 posts)
6. Good luck with that
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:19 AM
Dec 2015

Many people define anything they disagree with as "disruptive."

Enjoy your stay.

FSogol

(47,543 posts)
7. Translation: Someone hid my post.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:20 AM
Dec 2015

Response to FSogol (Reply #7)

FSogol

(47,543 posts)
13. Go for it. n/t
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:27 AM
Dec 2015

Orrex

(66,813 posts)
26. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
12. Been here 4 days and already understands the jury system.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:27 AM
Dec 2015

Response to Fuddnik (Reply #12)

Orrex

(66,813 posts)
25. Literate and a bit of a blowhard, to boot.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:45 AM
Dec 2015

Other than DU or The Discussionist, what forums feature a similar jury system? The fact that you claim to "understand discussion forums" is irrelevant.


I look forward to your long years of positive contributions to DU.

Orrex

(66,813 posts)
28. In fairness, it was a bogus hide.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. +1000. Very good post.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015

Atman

(31,464 posts)
18. Excellent post.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:34 AM
Dec 2015

I very often vote to "leave" stuff I entirely disagree with. No one asked me for my opinion, just whether or not the particular post was, as you stated, "innapropriate..." etc. I've voted to "leave" some very ridiculous stuff. But someone's silly opinion is NOT a reason to hide a post.

MH1

(19,091 posts)
23. I agree in general with your post. But you've got me curious
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:44 AM
Dec 2015

about what was hidden.

There are a number of terms I always heard in a non-offensive, totally unrelated way to their apparently offensive meaning that I've learned at DU. It's an interesting situation. Some of us have never heard a word in a particular meaning, OR (more often in my case) I had heard it but thought it was neutral rather than offensive, in context I'd heard it. Come to DU, or sometimes other highly diverse groups, and find out that it is indeed offensive.

Just wondering if there was an element of that in your post, or if it really was just a case of "I disagree, so I'm going to hide". (which I don't discount, by the way. Knock on wood, it hasn't happened to me yet, but I expect one day it will.)

Response to MH1 (Reply #23)

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
24. i tend to be live and let live on jury time...but there are times that steps must be taken
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:45 AM
Dec 2015

dems are supposed to be big tent and i envy at times the ability of the old gop to have folks in a coordinated goose step to the democratic herding cats strategy we seem to employ......

that being said we should not be assholes to each other......the gop is so much a target rich environment. i prefer to take my wrath out there.....Some standards MUST be employed

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
27. I serve on a lot of juries.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

I rarely vote to hide. I often serve on juries for a poster I don't particularly like.

I still won't vote to hide unless there is a clear personal attack involved.

I would never vote to hide based on a point of view.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
32. I've seen it
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Dec 2015

And stooped myself from doing it. The first response was "YOUR ASS IS MINE TREBEK", but....then I thought of the bullshit alert swarms driven on personal and ideological beef, and how I loath that kind of judgement. Measure twice, cut once.
Not embarrassed to say I've gone both ways, voting to hide a Berner and leave a Hillionare alone. It's not the person, it's the rules.

TexasTowelie

(126,279 posts)
33. Locking thread.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:03 AM
Dec 2015

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