Wheres the Plane?

[Pharaoh]

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I don't know about anyone else, but every time I've ever seen a plane crash there is tons of wreckage.

Wheres the plane?


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[whitefordmd]

1. Inside the building.

[awake]

2. It burned up

I am running out of tinfoil can I have some of yours

[Duckhunter935]

3. in pieces

There are many pictures of the plane parts

[pintobean]

30. "God put those dinosaur bones in the ground

to test our faith"

[snappyturtle]

4. Yep. Exactly. nt

[NightWatcher]

5. Maybe one day we'll know the truth and not be called conspiracy nuts.

That's a missile impact.

[awake]

6. Yes a plan turned to a missile by a high-jacker

Please think about the families who lost love ones who were on that flight that day.

[Pharaoh]

10. ^^this^^

[jberryhill]

18. Unlikely

https://m.

[librechik]

25. I would ask the program why the aluminum wings didn't get sheared off at the first lamppost strike

which are super strong embedded steel--and leave a lot of debris that is nowhere to be seen--

but why bother. "Newtonian Physics" is meaningful only up to a certain point to folks in the grip of whatever who cares.

[awake]

31. the lamp posts are designed to "shear off" when hit by a car

so I guess that a plane would do the samething

[jberryhill]

37. Yeah I guess you would ask that...

...if you were entirely ignorant of how highway lampposts are designed to break away.

But, no. Crews of elves came and pushed them over to be consistent with an airliner.

[Texasgal]

7. Where are the people

that were on that flight?

They are DEAD.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

32. The news was reporting by 11am that same day the names of the terrorists. BUT....

...for some reason, DNA analysis was required to identify everyone else because they "were burned beyond recognition". So, terrorists, 1 or 2 at least in the cockpit which hit first and supposedly unknown to us, were identified quickly where passengers needed DNA idents despite being on passenger manifests.

Hmmmm...

[jberryhill]

41. How bizarre

The names of the victims were indeed on the passenger manifest.

What does that have to do with identifying remains and returning them to the families?

[FLPanhandle]

8. This reinforces my opinion that all conspiracy nuts are totally ignorant.

My god, the stupidity burns.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

34. And rather than taking advantage of a teaching moment, your response is to insult them. 9/11 was...

...a conspiracy. There were at least 20 conspirators, if you don't count anyone beyond the hijackers.

[FLPanhandle]

38. You really can't teach someone who refuses to learn such simple basics

They WANT to believe.

Believers are not rationale. Be they religious or conspiracy nuts. It's a waste of time to try.

[pintobean]

9. Right here!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1135

[Pharaoh]

11. this is called general discussion

that is called the dungeon because you cannot rec and nothing sees the light of day.

[pintobean]

15. General discussion has rules

Read the pinned thread at the top of GD.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. And it just burns you up. Good! nt

[pintobean]

39. Lol.

[OnyxCollie]

12. Better question: How can this be used to invade Iraq?

Just as conspiratorial, with the added benefit of being able to be proven through the application of peer-reviewed political theory, primary documents, and history of past actions of the main actors.

Or, you can ask about missing planes, free-fall speeds, and burning temperature of jet fuel and see where that goes.

[Juicy_Bellows]

13. Unfortunately discussions of this sort get the poo poo treatment here.

Lots of folks like their shinny veneers hiding the rot behind them.

[spanone]

14. Oy

[ChisolmTrailDem]

36. So, you don't consider 9/11 a conspiracy? There were at least 20 hijackers (one didn't...

...board an airplane).

[rug]

16. .

[Pharaoh]

17. I just like to post here

to watch you guys go batshit crazy!

[librechik]

19. don't even bother to be sensible, Pharaoh

The debunkers have a whole different physics they subscribe to.

[Orrex]

20. The lizard men landed it safely in one of their bunkers inside the hollow earth.

Obviously.

[FLPanhandle]

21. Just as plausible as any of the truther theories.

You need to add in the government somewhere to really hook them.

[Orrex]

22. You amateur.

The lizard men are the government. Duh.

[Pharaoh]

45. okay

why didn't they shoot it down?

Big easy target, they saw it coming in from more than 10 miles out, new it was hijacked, Whose heads rolled for that fuck up?

[Orrex]

23. Here's a terrific deconstruction of 9/11 conspiracy nonsense:

http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was-911-inside-job_p2.html

All by itself, this one point destroys the entire conspiracy theory:

100% of the people who were offered the deal, took it.

After all, we don't have a single person who has come running into the offices of the New York Times, waving a check and saying, "look! Here's a check for ten million smackers that the government gave me to be silent about 9/11! Can you believe these assholes? Now give me my book deal!"

[snooper2]

24. Maybe you should ask Alex Jones

[Rosa Luxemburg]

29. Or Donald Trump

[stevenleser]

26. No, every time you see a plane crash there is not tons of wreckage.

When the crash happens at high speed straight into a reinforced building or straight down into the ground, the plane basically disintegrates. The only pieces of the plane that survive that kind of impact without splintering into little bits are the engines. In this case, the engines are likely 100+ feet inside the pentagon.

[Octafish]

27. When was that photo taken?

There are large pieces of construction equipment, shelters, etc. that require days to install.

Perhaps the aircraft's largest pieces have already been removed.

Question: Why weren't the trees next to the roadway flattened by the passing jet?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. It flew out the other side

[Oneironaut]

33. As opposed to being what? A bouncy missile?

Occam's razor dictates that a plane hit the Pentagon.

[bdwker]

40. Destroyed.

[KentuckyWoman]

42. Really?

#1 This pic is clearly after the cleanup started. Cranes and equipment all over the place.

#2 Witnesses...... hello McFly. I don't know if you can pull from archives anymore but some DU members were witnesses.

#3 Live video footage from redundant sources.

#4 Discussion can be had about how they got access to the plane, who actually flew it, who actually planned the whole thing. But was there really a plane at all? Seriously?

[melman]

43. Okay

So where is the plane? What's your theory on what they did with it?

[etherealtruth]

44. LOCKING

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