Breaking - no charges in Tamir Rice murder by cops

[malaise]

Fuck!!!! A twelve year old black life doesn't matter a flying fuck.

[onecaliberal]

1. :

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. WTF!!!

[darkangel218]

3. Unbelievable!!!

Wtf!!!

[catnhatnh]

4. I know no one of any color

who has seen that tape claim that it was anything other than murder...

[HughBeaumont]

43. Read the comments section from the PD . . . .

All the Northeast Ohio Suburban Klansmen thought Timothy Loehmann was perfectly within his rights to gun down a minor who, from the looks of it, was one of 2-3 people at the Cudell Rec Center park that day.

It got so bad, the Plain Dealer suspended commentary from anything Tamir Rice-related in their paper.

[RockaFowler]

5. How does the video show Tamir pointing the gun at police??

They shot him in less than 30 seconds

Oh and he looked older is not a defense for killing - no murdering - someone.

What is going on in this world??

[darkangel218]

8. No idea. :(

[LittleBlue]

12. He was shot in like 2 seconds

The cop shot him faster than the gunslingers in old western movies.

Tragic.

[Rex]

18. The cop on the passengers side hops out and unloads...maybe all of 3 seconds.

In America, even raw unedited video footage is not enough factual proof against a cop. That is a scary statement imo.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

34. According to folks on Twitter, the prosecutor recommended no charges be brought.

Grand Jury followed his wishes, as they so often do.

[tblue37]

67. Less than 2 seconds. nt

[cpwm17]

6. Obviously the cop was guilty of some crime.

This needs to go to a jury. It was a drive-by murder.

[Jim Beard]

14. This is pure horseshit

How long are we going to allow the cops to investigate themselves?

[Rex]

20. How long are we going to allow the Pentagon to investigate themselves?

Sadly no matter who we put in office, they seem to let these groups self-govern even after acts like torture and murder caught on video camera.

[Jim Beard]

7. How in hell do the damn cops get away with investigating themselves.

Ohio needs a enema. I'm white and getting sick of the fucking cops.

[Jim Beard]

9. The cops were at fault

the dispatcher screwed up too. Sue their asses off.

[Nyan]

10. .........

And yet, it is the "silent majority" being oppressed. It's disgusting.

[spanone]

11. this is just wrong.

they drove right up to that kid and killed him. MURDER.

[Rex]

16. It is scary that Americans are allowing facts to become meaningless in cases against cops.

Even with video footage, we still seem to decide on some strange seperate reality where our eyes lied to us. Pretty fucked up imo.

[malaise]

17. in two seconds

Would they have shot any white man in Open Carry Ohio????

[spanone]

19. the prosecutor in this case didn't think the charges were warranted. he should have been replaced.

IMMEDIATELY

this is just fucked up on many levels.

[malaise]

24. Yep - all farce

DOJ better have a look at this one

[yeoman6987]

53. So far, the DOJ has not brought one case that the stste dropped to court

Not sure what they are doing on the job but certainly not getting enough evidence to bring to federal court even.

[FLPanhandle]

13. Not unexpected in this case.

What with the crazy the call to the police about someone with a gun in a playground and officer responding and seeing the (toy) gun, the situation would have been a tough case to convict in court (maybe at they could have tried for involuntary manslaughter).

However, since the caller/dispatcher set the stage for the police mindset of what to expect, I doubt that would have stuck either.

The officer should be fired though. He may avoid conviction but he is one horrible police officer.

[malaise]

22. It was all farce from day one - the prosecutor said he didn't

press for charges

[FLPanhandle]

27. Even if it was going to be a tough case, some charges should have been brought

Even if it's just to set an example for the next time.

[Rex]

15. Not surprised, cops can kill people and get away with it even after being caught redhanded.

That is a proven fact in 2015 America.

[Jim Beard]

35. Yes it is a fact! I worry that I have a grandson that it Autistic and

the stupid cops will onlt want to shoot him if he acts strange.

[IamTheNoodle]

21. Ban Toy Guns!

Why are we giving children toy guns?

I think the cop thought the child had a gun and made tragic mistake.

[darkangel218]

28. They will still shoot.

"He/she was reaching for the waistband.." Remember that?

There is no stopping them, unless the departments change within themselves, to 0 tolerance for police brutality.

[IamTheNoodle]

36. You're right

Culture problem within the police, needs to change.

This cop should be fired without question.

[tblue37]

68. He was fired by another PD for being undisciplined and untrustworthy.

But then thus PD hired him anyway.

[Jim Beard]

39. Where was the threat? How many people were in danger? Was it necessary to kill him immediately?

I think not. It was the dispatcher that did not RELAY correct information to the cop from the caller. The person that called 911 stated it could be a toy gun. The dispatcher raised the threat level. Still, unless there was a real threat to others, the cops should have pulled back.

[pengu]

45. Ohio's an open carry state

Even if he did have a gun the cop fired within mere seconds of arrival in a state where it is legal to open carry.

[SunSeeker]

51. Excellent point. White people can brandish guns in open carry states, but not black people.

Here's the classic video of that old white guy taunting cops with an assault rifle right on a public street in Michigan, an open carry state. The cops patiently talked to him and eventually convinced him to put down his gun. No bullets were exchanged and they were exceedingly nice to him despite the verbal abuse he was heeping on them:

And then there's this open carry nutjob in fatigues who got the cops to back down even though he had been brandishing on school property:

[pengu]

62. The cops "fear for their lives" every time they see a black person

I think we should move some funding from their Ammo and put it into Depends Undergarments for them.

[SunSeeker]

69. They need better psychological screening.

The cowardly ass who shot Tamir Rice should have never been a cop.

[CorkySt.Clair]

52. It could have been a GD Easter Egg and it wouldn't have mattered

The only thing that matters in these cases are the three little words that become a bad cop's get out of jail free card: "I felt threatened".

The cops in this case are murderers. Period. Wouldn't surprise me if they got their rocks off on it, too. Many in that field do.

[darkangel218]

59. + 1

[G_j]

23. license to kill..

Renewed once again

[mcar]

25. Just saw this on NYT

Nice of them to wait till this week to announce. They are obviously hoping it'll get less attention.

[malaise]

26. That's the plan

[mcar]

32. Just like with mass shootings

I don't know what it will take for things to change. It is just so depressing. I weep for that beautiful boy and his grieving family.

[Jim Beard]

29. The caller said that it looked like a juvenile, it was the

fucking dispatchers that got it wrong. It was the fucking police department own screwed up communications to an also incompetent cop. They hired a cop they had to spell it out to in normal cases anyway.

[randys1]

30. If that was Mitt Romney's grandson, anyone want to guess if there would be charges?

[malaise]

31. There would be no need for charges

He would not have been murdered - not even shot.

[randys1]

33. Oh yeah, what was I thinking. of course

[Jim Beard]

38. If it were Romneys kid, the cop would be executed by now

of course they would blame it on a minority cop.

[meow2u3]

37. Time for the Feds to lock up that killer cop

for civil rights violations. State and local prosecutors refuse to prosecute cops, so the Feds need to step in and seek justice.

[Jim Beard]

40. Yes, it is time to lock the cop up in general population.

[whatthehey]

41. This to me is the clearest murder of the highly publicized cases

I try to give the benefit of the doubt. I know cops deal with shit I'll never have to, but come on. Tape of as cop shooting a kid within seconds with not the slightest attempt to control or even assess the situation first. No possibility of attack on the officer like they claimed in Brown. No possibility of unintentional anciliary causes like they claimed in Garner or Gray. I mean this one was just no damn other option at all. I never had much faith in juries to begin with but hell this did not help.

[Vinca]

42. It seems this is a case where the prosecutor told the grand jury the result he expected.

And they delivered. It's not right.

[malaise]

70. You nailed it

It's not right

[pengu]

44. Horrific yet sadly unsurprising

They murdered a child in cold blood and will walk with no penalties.

[HughBeaumont]

46. I see they're pulling the usual false narratives.

The entire interaction, captured by a city-owned surveillance camera, lasted less than two seconds. Loehmann wrote that he shouted four times for Tamir to show his hands before he opened fire.

The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office released three reports from national experts in police use of force that each found the boy's shooting was tragic but reasonable because the officers did not know Tamir's age or that the gun was fake. The experts also concluded that a reasonable officer responding to a report of a man with a gun would have considered Tamir's movements around his waist to pose a "threat" to their safety. They also concluded the use of deadly force would be legally appropriate.

So, move your hand wrong while black, get legally murdered.

[uponit7771]

57. "..report of a man .." this is the really crazy part... there's nothing "man" about Tamir... this is

... so wrong

[SunSeeker]

47. Wow. Not good. nt

[panader0]

48. Horrible--but not unbelieveable

I saw the tape--that cop should be arrested for MURDER.

[suffragette]

49. WTF. Just damned wrong.

[brer cat]

50. no damn words.

[darkangel218]

55. ..

They just pulled up next to him and shot him dead

[Lucky Luciano]

54. Naturally. nt

[Starry Messenger]

56. Sickening. :(

[darkangel218]

58. He was shot in .79 seconds. Less than a second after the cops pulled next to him :'(

[ValasHune]

60. pigs

fucking pigs

[Phentex]

61. Sad and so wrong...

gives me evil thoughts.

[Dont call me Shirley]

63. Cops get to kill at will in this country, with no or very little consequences.

Tamir...

[JunkyardAngel83]

64. This country is beyond fucked up.

This is seriously nauseating. I don't ever want to hear that "all lives matter" BS ever again. Not when a 12yo boy who wasn't hurting or threatening anyone can be gunned down by a cop before the police car has even come to a full stop. Fuck this shit. They murdered Tamir Rice.

[Duval]

65. Damn! eom

[rbrnmw]

66. Damn this is crazy

they executed that child within seconds of encountering him.

[dana_b]

71. And this woman is pointing a fake gun at police

and begging them to shoot her. Yet, nothing.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Boom-Boom-Boom-Woman-Points-Fake-Gun-at-Police-in-Torrington-363536941.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand