who in the hell is Ruth Marcus from the Washington Post who thinks she can judge

but she's always been weird on sex/pornography stuff

NAFTA, the war on drugs, private prisons, welfare "reform", repeal of Glass Steagall, etc. etc.

The guy was a disaster and all the drama served as a deflection from the crap he was pulling.

You can holler about Bush all you want and he was a miserable excuse for a president.

But Clinton was damn near as bad.

He is Master lmaooo

About Clinton, but they will NEVER convince me otherwise...
He is a Master!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said, people FORGET, we all have an achilles heel....
our congress is the horniest group ever...
but SO WHAT...
I DON'T CARE...WHAT they do with their personal life...
I was married to one.(a horney guy) and a gambler.....HA HA WHAT A JOKE...

Tell me of few women who have not been jolted....
it's life....
It happens....and it will NEVER CHANGE...

I WOULD love to have Clinton in the White House.
I LOVE THE MAN....I honor the man....He is one of the BEST of the BEST.

I'm positive Hiiary will win, Frankly, I think it is destiny....!!!!unless trump really does something (which I would not
put past him) but People will wake up...

Trump is not presidential material....but I may not have any control over whether it happens or not.
scares me a little....
The unknown is a bit scary...

And Stephen Breyer. Don't know about you, but I'm grateful for those two.

She adored Bill Clinton (much like she does Obama -- she cuts me off when I try to talk to her about that), and she really hated learning how he wasn't the best president ever.

who were there are not happy with the idea of him back in the WH. I know people who voted for raygun because of Bill's personal life in the WH.

we were still in debt

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-deficit-by-year.htm

And the only one since before Kennedy. Not that facts play well here these days.

but we still had debt...that was my only point

But 28% of it was Clinton's. Yes, he balanced the budget and got us a surplus, which is a great thing, but he didn't reduce the debt overall, he added to it.

"He hit over 600 home runs in one season."

"No, he never hit more than 60 homers in any year."

"Why do you hate Babe Ruth?"

This is TOO funny coming from the side that wants us to have a Utopic society of immortals. Yeah, that'll be a balanced or surplus budget.

until the last 3 (?)years of his admin...so yes some of that debt was from his admin

i do not understand why you would tell that untruth that it was all from the repubs before him,

balancing the budget for the first time since at least ww2 was a big accomplishment so why add the untruth?

dems and repubs both along the way ran deficit budgets

This was and is totally lost on the fools I worked with. They hated Clinton and would not/ could not admit to the truth that the country was running better, people were being employed and there was a surplus.

They were all like, Raygun, Raygun, Raygun. When dear president Carter left office the total debt was under a trillion after Raygun/bUSH it was somewhere around 7 trillion.

it would be nice if they factored social security out of there, since, if memory serves, it was social security which provided most, if not all, of the surplus.

The country was still in debt when President Clinton left office.

The Clinton Admin had a surplus and part of that was paying down the debt.

But that's not at all the same as claimed by the OP, i.e., that we had no debt.

Not even close to the same thing.

debt of all the Presidents before him.

Are you expecting that President Clinton could have erased trillions of dollars in national debt during his 8 years?

I'm not criticizing Clinton for not eliminating the debt, just pointing out that saying we had no national debt when he left office is completely untrue.

... was that she was just saying that if Hillary is going to use Bill as a surrogate and top advisor and refer back to her time as First Lady, then Bill Clinton is fair game for political discussion and examination.

I haven't read her article, but that was what I got from what she said on MSNBC.

If that is the case, then I think she is correct.

....from the beginning of the country have served the president as an unacknowledged advisor and someone to bounce things off of. Does the name Abigail Adams ring a bell? Or Roslyn Carter?

How do you expect it to be otherwise when couples have been working together on mutual interests for a lifetime?

The line of questioning from the reporters was predictably stupid. They were asking if Bill was going to be doing "lady things," and Hillary was telling them she would find time for a few of those herself, thank you.

We've never had the spouse of a President run for President before.

I don't like it.

I think familial politics of this nature is bad for a democracy, a republic.

If you think Shrub had psychological baggage because his dad was President, just wait for the psychological and emotional baggage of a spouse succeeding to that office.

So, heck yes ... Bill is a surrogate for Hillary ... he will be campaigning and speaking for her. He is a former President, he is her husband, she was First Lady in his Presidency.

http://useconomy.about.com/od/usfederalbudget/fl/US-Deficit-by-Year.htm?utm_term=Federal%20Budget%20Deficit%20History&utm_content=p1-main-5-title&utm_medium=sem-rel&utm_source=msn&utm_campaign=adid-f7149b28-2a2e-4407-9bf5-45ace00037ae-0-ab_msb_ocode-31621&ad=semD&an=msn_s&am=broad&q=Federal%20Budget%20Deficit%20History&dqi=&o=31621&l=sem&qsrc=6&askid=f7149b28-2a2e-4407-9bf5-45ace00037ae-0-ab_msb

While there were surpluses the last three Clinton years (and the first Bush year), this chart shows the federal deficits and surpluses year by year since 1929.

Although I understand some lying. I mean who wants to stand up there and admit "I did this bad thing"? Something like "yes, I broke the window".

I also have to admit that it's hard for me to judge a cheater. I mean, how do I know that I would not do the same thing - IF - I had the opportunity?

Still, I don't like it, because I would NOT want somebody to do that to me.

I've never been much of a fan of Clinton, although I have liked some of his convention speeches.

But I have disliked a lot of his policies and a lot of his rhetoric. From Nafta, to welfare reform to tax cuts for the rich, to the repeal of Glass Stegall, and so on.

In a personal sense, his "boom economy" never lifted me up.

Though I have to disagree about Bill's abilities to be a "Master" of anything other than being a clever salesman of neoliberal programs.

I'm not sure I'm following that logic.

I can only measure what I know of the events against the terms of employment I worked under.

What Clinton and Lewinsky constructed seems pretty much the iconic example of the power-asymmetry sexual liaison that is presented in sexual harassment training for new hires.

It is improper to have sexual relationships on company property, on company time, with subordinates (and usually also forbidden outside of work). That will get you disciplined and/or fired from most jobs and opens the company up to potential lawsuits.

One could make the argument that it was also sexual harassment since it potentially adversely affected Lewinsky's career because her chain of command (having become suspicious of her and the President's relationship) involuntarily transferred her to the Pentagon because of the inappropriate relationship.

...but I sure don't remember her getting a settlement of almost a million bucks from Clinton.

"After more than 4 1/2 years of scorched-earth legal warfare, Clinton and Jones brought a sudden end to the case with a four-page deal in which he acknowledged no wrongdoing and offered no apology."

Dont now.

He was president at a time when new technology fields started making a major contribution to the economy. The tech boom of the '90's was largely responsible for the "good economy" of the Clinton years. At the same time, it was an unsustainable bubble, and Clinton also presided over deregulation that contributed significantly to the eventual 2008 crash, and over things like NAFTA and most-favoured-nation trading status with China that saw American manufacturing gutted (the US textile industry lost over a million jobs in the seven years between 1994 and 2001, for example), and NAFTA specifically is also largely responsible for worsening the immigration crisis (dumping of highly-subsidised US corn on the Mexican market bankrupted an awful lot of Mexican farmers) and contributing to the general lawlessness and destabilisation of Mexico due to the drug war. By and large? Bill Clinton is the Democratic Calvin Coolidge. The 1920's were also an era of unprecedented economic expansion in new industries; then the 1929 crash happened, and it took almost two decades to recover. I don't think you'll find anyone arguing that Coolidge was a great, or even very good, president these days.

Bill had a really good economy. I have not known how to explain that this kind of thing can happen. Thank you.