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Climate change? You betcha. (Original Post) Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 OP
here in illinois, we should have snow too questionseverything Dec 2015 #1
Come on up to Wisconsin, you can have some of mine. Scuba Dec 2015 #8
I live 156 miles south east of you, Blue, on the roguevalley Dec 2015 #13
I miss the snow so much. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #22
me too. :( This is some scary stuff. roguevalley Dec 2015 #34
lol questionseverything Dec 2015 #14
But this is only the second snowfall we have had all season AllyCat Dec 2015 #25
But, but, but that cannot be nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #2
I watch those Alaska shows like 'Gold Rush' and 'Alaska: The Last Frontier", etc., and... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #3
Yup. It sure looks like climate change. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #4
That is fine, nature will just plow them under like dead leaves. Rex Dec 2015 #7
It might be a warm and bumpy Iditarod JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #5
I think they had to change the route last year in order to stay on snow. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #6
They did. 2naSalit Dec 2015 #9
Yes, that may happen again this year Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #10
Mat-Su (includes Wasila) winds took out power for 20,000 this a.m. Divernan Dec 2015 #24
70 in New York during Christmas week! I know some people like it, but I find it awful. Squinch Dec 2015 #11
The Weather Crew on the local news don't like to talk about "GW". lpbk2713 Dec 2015 #12
It was 83 here today in Jax. We've set records all week NightWatcher Dec 2015 #15
North Pole temperatures spike 'above freezing' as Storm Frank sends warm air north Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #16
I don't know about "Frank" Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #19
Let's put these two maps together Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #35
72° above normal in Arctic! Duppers Dec 2015 #23
It's fake - a scheme cooked up by al Gore to make money Doctor_J Dec 2015 #17
Nah, it's really just a giant communist conspiracy to harm the American economy Electric Monk Dec 2015 #37
Hi, Blue. bvar22 Dec 2015 #18
My beans did well, too. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #21
Thank gawd for the BEANS. bvar22 Dec 2015 #30
Mine were purple string beans, Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #31
Nonsense. tabasco Dec 2015 #20
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #26
Talkeetna/Denali area - low snow cover Divernan Dec 2015 #27
I checked into Ft Richardson on 9/29/72 onethatcares Dec 2015 #28
Thank you. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #29
Corp.s know they're harming us; they just don't give a shit. Divernan Dec 2015 #36
I lived in Anchorage from '92 to '99 callous taoboy Dec 2015 #32
Also is man mad GummyBearz Dec 2015 #33
Looks like a good start for a good garden madokie Dec 2015 #38
Yes, I mulched everything really well this fall, Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #39
Republicans killed Christmas. Because what's Christmas without snow? randome Dec 2015 #40
Oh, great! Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #41
Boston snow fall records frankieallen Dec 2015 #42
The science have been out there rockfordfile Dec 2015 #43
Brew yourself some coffee, nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #44

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
13. I live 156 miles south east of you, Blue, on the
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

Kenai Peninsula and there is no snow. There is wind and rain. Global warming is going to kill us all until we overthrow the money madness and greed monsters that are going to kill us all.

AllyCat

(16,228 posts)
25. But this is only the second snowfall we have had all season
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:06 PM
Dec 2015

We are usually buried by now and the little we have will likely melt AGAIN. This isn't right.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. But, but, but that cannot be
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015

it is a HOAX!!!! Perpetrated by pointy head scientists... truly... and of course your lying eyes are not seeing right. All that green IS snow...

(I spent a few hours going back and forth with a denialist that is repeating lovely talking points from Heartland)

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
3. I watch those Alaska shows like 'Gold Rush' and 'Alaska: The Last Frontier", etc., and...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:19 PM
Dec 2015

...the participants are awed by the inexplicable changes in the climate there as if they have no idea what could be causing it. They mention it often but climate change seems never to occur to them. Funny, that.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. That is fine, nature will just plow them under like dead leaves.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:23 PM
Dec 2015

It amazes me how out of tune some are with mother nature. Oh well, some of us will be more prepared and aware and some will just stand out in the rain and drown.

Hate to be a downer about this, but some have already made their beds and will have to sink with them.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,369 posts)
5. It might be a warm and bumpy Iditarod
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

How's the weather in Wasila? It's very close to Russia, I hear.



No snow in lower Michigan, either.

2naSalit

(86,804 posts)
9. They did.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:30 PM
Dec 2015

Also the snowmobile race had a lot of problems. A friend of mine was in the snowmobile race and had a really hard time and said they were breaking through the ice where there were lakes.

I'm up in the coldest part of the Rockies, we have a good amount of snow (4' base) and very high avalanche danger, and double digit subzero temps at night.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
10. Yes, that may happen again this year
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:35 PM
Dec 2015

although they won't determine a route until next month probably. I think there was a pretty good snowpack up north, but it may be disappearing now. Alyeska was looking good for skiing, but I imagine it's too dangerous right now.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
24. Mat-Su (includes Wasila) winds took out power for 20,000 this a.m.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:05 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.alaskapublic.org/2015/12/30/early-morning-mat-su-outage-leaves-up-to-20k-without-power/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+aprn-news+%28APRN%3A+Alaska+News%29
Early morning Mat-Su outage leaves up to 20K without power
By Josh Edge, APRN - Anchorage | December 30, 2015

As many as 20,000 Matanuska-Susitna residents have been without power this morning due to wind.

Matanuska Electric Association spokesperson Julie Estey says about 15,000 of those outages are due to a downed major transmission line serving the Palmer, Wasilla and Big Lake areas.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
12. The Weather Crew on the local news don't like to talk about "GW".
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:39 PM
Dec 2015



I put that in quotes intentionally.

Whenever they bring up the subject they get stacks
of nasty letters and emails from the WingNutz. They
don't even talk about it being a "touchy" subject any
more because they know they will hear about it.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
16. North Pole temperatures spike 'above freezing' as Storm Frank sends warm air north
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:17 PM
Dec 2015

The high temperature should be minus 30 centigrade
for this time of year

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/12075282/North-Pole-temperatures-spike-above-freezing-as-Storm-Frank-sends-warm-air-north.html

Storms this strong at this time of year is

NOT EL NINO.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
35. Let's put these two maps together
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:08 AM
Dec 2015

And see where they connect to the bigger picture
To me it seems this is not just an Alaskan/Pacific phenomena but a World phenomena........ affecting the northern hemisphere.....yikes

Like my meme says.........Don't Panic.

but shit it does give way to concern.

Everyone grab their towel..









Duppers

(28,127 posts)
23. 72° above normal in Arctic!
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:04 PM
Dec 2015

Has never happened in recorded history!

This will thaw ground in the Arctic circle and thereby release more methane gas which is tremendously more damaging to the climate then just CO2.

We are destroying ourselves. We do not have the centuries left that some thought. It's most certainly unlikely this can be undone or that we can geoengineer ourselves out of this hell.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/how-much-time-do-we-have-left-halting-climate-engineering-is-a-primary-factor/



I am deeply upset by this.






 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
17. It's fake - a scheme cooked up by al Gore to make money
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

Are you going to believe Fox news or your lying eyes?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
18. Hi, Blue.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015

I'm way south of you, but unheard of weather here too.
On Christmas Day, I was working in the garden...85 degrees.

The grass is greening way too soon.
The buds on our fruit trees are swelling because they think it is Spring. Like last year, I expect a hard freeze next that will kill all of our young fruit.

If this is the New Normal, then we are all fucked.....UNLESS
you let me plant tomatoes and melons in your back yard.

Bad year last year. everything cooked on the vine...few plants actually produced.
I have learned one thing....you can always count on beans.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
21. My beans did well, too.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 06:40 PM
Dec 2015

Not the peas, though. It was too hot. We had several 80+ days here last summer, which used to be unheard of. In fact, we used to have years when the temp would only be above 70 three or four days. We were all sweltering last summer - we're not used to the heat.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
30. Thank gawd for the BEANS.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

I love Beans and Rice, especially if someone throws in a Ham-hock or Ham-bone.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
27. Talkeetna/Denali area - low snow cover
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:15 PM
Dec 2015

My son planned to have a week of cross-country skiing in Talkeetna/Denali in November (he was taking a break between 4 months in the Aleutians/Pribilof Islands and returning to the lower 48) - said there should have been enough snow for that in November, but such was not the case this year.

Meanwhile, in southwestern Pennsylvania, my neighbors are still having to mow their lawns in December (unheard of in the 46 years I've lived in the area) and are doing so in shorts.

onethatcares

(16,188 posts)
28. I checked into Ft Richardson on 9/29/72
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:01 PM
Dec 2015

it was snowing. It snowed like I never saw snow before. Sometime in April 73, break up occurred and it stopped snowing.

I was there until 3/76 and never saw the ground after October and before March any year.

I've read about the drunken trees and the houses that are working their way through the perma frost. What a sad state of denial these corporations are in to think what they exude doesn't harm any of us.

That's scary Blue. Good luck in the future.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
29. Thank you.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:16 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, that's the way I remember it, too. The snow came in October and stayed until April. There might be a Chinook or two during the winter, but never enough to melt anything. This is just really wrong.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
36. Corp.s know they're harming us; they just don't give a shit.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 08:45 AM
Dec 2015

All the guys in charge care about is this quarter's bottom line and this year's stock options.

How they look at themselves in the mirror when they shave, I cannot fathom.

callous taoboy

(4,590 posts)
32. I lived in Anchorage from '92 to '99
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:25 PM
Dec 2015

and winter was on starting in October. Lots of snow, lots of very cold temps, and like you said, Blue, the occasional chinook which used to drive me crazy. I remember doing recess duty in the late 90's, it was late April, and I was hating a very cold wind.

Yeah, I just talked to a buddy of mine up there yesterday and he was saying it was such a pretty day, but so wrong. Last time I was up there was at least 5 years ago in June and as I walked out to my friends car it was just hot. I don't remember hot in Anchorage.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
38. Looks like a good start for a good garden
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:01 AM
Dec 2015

I assume that is what the mulched area around your fence is all about

Crazy ain't it. It was in the upper sixties Christmas day here this year with a high of 43 today.

Have a wonderful new years eve

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
39. Yes, I mulched everything really well this fall,
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:39 PM
Dec 2015

not knowing exactly what to expect this winter. Those are strawberries by the fence. The other fence has the rhubarb and columbines and roses in the corner. On the right is the edge of my vegetable garden.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
40. Republicans killed Christmas. Because what's Christmas without snow?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:44 PM
Dec 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"Everybody is just on their feet screaming 'Kill Kill Kill'! This is -hockey- Conservative values!"[/center][/font][hr]

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
42. Boston snow fall records
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:47 PM
Dec 2015

1. 2014-2015: 110.6 inches
2. 1995-1996: 107.6 inches
3. 1993-1994: 96.3 inches
4. 1947-1948: 89.2 inches
5. 2004-2005: 86.6 inches
6. 1977-1978: 85.1 inches
7. 1992-1993: 83.9 inches
8. 2010-2011: 81.0 inches
9. 1915-1916: 79.2 inches
10. 1919-1920: 73.4 inches

Also, I looked up the past years winters as far as average temp in Boston, found an interesting web site.
if someone has historical data that backs up climate change, I would love to see it.

http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_BostonLoganIntLArpt_Boston_MA_January.html

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
43. The science have been out there
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:52 PM
Dec 2015

You sound like a anti science republican. The kind of people that are climate deniers are the same kind of nut jobs that think the moon landing was a hoax.

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