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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:50 PM May 2012

It’s official: Bill Clinton heading to Wisconsin to campaign against Scott Walker

Last edited Thu May 31, 2012, 07:34 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/its-official-bill-clinton-heading-to-wisconsin-to-campaign-against-scott-walker/2012/05/31/gJQAHQqa4U_blog.html

Former President Bill Clinton has decided to go to Wisconsin to campaign against Scott Walker in the final days of the battle over whether to recall the Wisconsin Governor, a move that could give a boost to the anti-Walker forces in a campaign that will depend heavily on who turns out to vote, a source familiar with Clinton’s plans confirms to me.

As late as yesterday afternoon, it was still not certain whether Clinton would go to Wisconsin. DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, in a meeting with Democrats, seemed to suggest that he was trying to determine whether he would go. But neither the DNC nor Clinton’s camp would confirm whether it was going to happen, and Democrats cautioned that Clinton had not made up his mind.

But now he will go to Wisconsin, the source confirms.

Democrats badly want Clinton to campaign in Wisconsin for Tom Barrett, and had lobbied him heavily for weeks. But Clinton remaind undecided until today.

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It’s official: Bill Clinton heading to Wisconsin to campaign against Scott Walker (Original Post) PeaceNikki May 2012 OP
"Clinton remaind undecided until today." DonCoquixote May 2012 #1
I am very glad to see this. PeaceNikki May 2012 #4
yep, me too. Whisp May 2012 #5
So much dumb in one short post. WilliamPitt May 2012 #8
No kidding. GoCubsGo May 2012 #21
Agreed GObamaGO May 2012 #36
We're all great at it. RUMMYisFROSTED May 2012 #38
Being 'undecided' until the last minute is called 'negotiating'. n/t PoliticAverse May 2012 #13
Negotiating? progressoid May 2012 #15
Alternatively, he could have just been waiting until the last minute to make the maximum splash. TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #14
Exactly! Build the suspense -- charge in on a white horse! pnwmom May 2012 #20
"Always so eager to think the worst" GoCubsGo May 2012 #23
Yes, Clinton won't be of use to the party if he hooks himself up with losing candidates. pnwmom May 2012 #24
Obama isn't going to WI lark May 2012 #27
Duh. GoCubsGo May 2012 #32
Or maybe... TroglodyteScholar May 2012 #35
As I have suggested in other posts.... HereSince1628 May 2012 #2
I agree. He's a charmer and well liked by many. PeaceNikki May 2012 #3
Considering that the ALEC-Fitz-Walker voter suppression act is aimed at minorities HereSince1628 May 2012 #7
Indeed. You make good point about his record on labor, but.... PeaceNikki May 2012 #9
How can Clinton galvanize the black vote? Happydayz May 2012 #39
Good, I would love to see Walker try to have a conversation with Clinton. sabrina 1 May 2012 #6
Walker has a lopsided head and googly dumb eyes. My friend said, PeaceNikki May 2012 #10
He always looks like he's falling asleep to me. sabrina 1 May 2012 #12
What IS up with his head? He looks like freakin Gumby. bluesbassman May 2012 #29
lol PeaceNikki May 2012 #31
He's "Bob" from the old Ted Danson TV show "Becker" GoCubsGo May 2012 #34
“Folks in Wisconsin have been on the front lines of fighting for working, middle-class families PeaceNikki May 2012 #11
Go, Big Damn Dog, Go! nt onehandle May 2012 #16
Considering NAFTA's damage to manufacturing SHRED May 2012 #17
Yes. Even the Republicans I know long for the days of Clinton. PeaceNikki May 2012 #19
He's golden, as long as nobody asks him about NAFTA + the latest pending free-trade agreement AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #18
This is what Wisconsin Democrats need. JDPriestly May 2012 #22
If the "source" could not have his or her named published rocktivity May 2012 #25
Tom Barrett has confirmed this as well, although we're still awaiting details. PeaceNikki May 2012 #28
That's all the more reason why the Clinton camp should have confirmed first rocktivity May 2012 #30
I think this confirms that the race is neck and neck. Clinton wouldn't go if Barrett was losing. Zen Democrat May 2012 #26
Exactly -- and getting the voters' attention RIGHT BEFORE is a good strategy K8-EEE May 2012 #40
10:00 AM at Pere Marqutte Park PeaceNikki May 2012 #33
Bring rain gear. HereSince1628 May 2012 #41
This is fantastic news GObamaGO May 2012 #37

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. "Clinton remaind undecided until today."
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:54 PM
May 2012

Translation: I am a Diva who is still made that my wife is not president, so I could get that third term in office. I will pull this diva act until 2016, where I will make sure to say "See, don't y'all admit we are so much better than Obama?"

All the same, give them hell Bill.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
4. I am very glad to see this.
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:57 PM
May 2012

Diva or not... I am glad he's coming and rearranging my schedule to be there.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. yep, me too.
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:04 PM
May 2012

I'm not crazy about ole Billy but Scott Walker is about 17,427,862 points lower than Bill.

Good on him, I hope it goes well.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
21. No kidding.
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:49 PM
May 2012

Forget that this is an ex-President with all sorts of other commitments, including his foundation. And, never mind that this might be the first weekend in a while that his wife might be home from her job. Or, that this is a 65-year-old man who had 2 heart surgeries and may just be tired. Nah. He's just full of himself Yep. That's the ticket.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
14. Alternatively, he could have just been waiting until the last minute to make the maximum splash.
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:57 PM
May 2012

Timing is everything given the 24/7 news cycle and viewer/story fatigue. Clinton going to Wisconsin would be a novelty for only a few days. This timing would give it the maximum impact.

And, speaking of last minute cavalry charges, anyone want to start a betting pool to guess how much DARK MONEY from faceless PACs will be dumped into Wisconsin this weekend? My guess is maybe $50 000 000 to $100 000 000. If Clinton can counterbalance some of that with a last minute appearance, I'm all for it.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
20. Exactly! Build the suspense -- charge in on a white horse!
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:41 PM
May 2012

Why are Dems always so eager to think the worst? Clinton is a born politician. He knows what he's doing -- as we should have figured out by now.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
23. "Always so eager to think the worst"
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:58 PM
May 2012

I don't understand that, either. Hell, the fact that people are saying that Wisconsinites aren't going to go out and vote unless the President, or the Vice President, or some other big shot comes there "rallies" them appalls me. This has been going on for more than a year. People are well aware of the stakes involved. And, if that's not enough to motivate them to go out and vote, then neither will visits from Obama, Biden, Clinton, or anyone else.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
24. Yes, Clinton won't be of use to the party if he hooks himself up with losing candidates.
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:36 PM
May 2012

Anyone he supports should have a decent chance of winning, or he's not just wasting his efforts -- he's damaging his "brand."

This means he sees Tom Barrett as someone who can win. Great!

And I'm not denigrating Clinton when I say all this -- just being realistic. There's a reason Clinton was President for 8 years and people like Kucinich, for example, never get close.

lark

(23,091 posts)
27. Obama isn't going to WI
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:42 PM
May 2012

Also haven't heard much public support from him for WI Dems either. Even his press secretary didn't know if Obama was supporting Barrett - that's how tepid he's been. Obama thinks he has WI already, so isn't willing to put in any more effort or money.

Too bad Obama isn't prioritizing worker rights, yet assumes labor will support him fully. I'll vote for him, he's certainly better than "the job destroyer", but that's the end of my committment. No more phone banks or money to the middle of every road President Obama.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
32. Duh.
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:28 PM
May 2012

I know he isn't going. My point is that there are those that believe that folks won't go out and vote without him or someone else pushing them to do it by showing up there. I think that's B.S. Like I said, the people of Wisconsin already know what is at stake. I have watched them for the past year, and I have more faith in them than to believe they will stay home if the President doesn't show up. I suspect the President does, too, which is why I am guessing that he's staying out of it.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
35. Or maybe...
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:38 PM
May 2012

Translation: I have the political savvy to know that American voters tend to have short attention spans. I'll wait to go to Wisconsin until right before the vote so that the Democratic voters' motivation is still running high from my visit.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
2. As I have suggested in other posts....
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:54 PM
May 2012

A Clinton visit, Dems hope, will galvanize base turnout (the black vote in Milwaukee, for example) just enough to put Barrett over the top.

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PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
3. I agree. He's a charmer and well liked by many.
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:56 PM
May 2012

We NEED to get the folks who voted Obama in 2008 and stayed home in 2010 AT THE POLLS Tuesday, this will be key.

The numbers are in MKE. Barrett lost 2010 by 125k. There were 108k in MILWAUKEE ALONE who voted Obama and stayed home in 2010.

This is just what we need.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. Considering that the ALEC-Fitz-Walker voter suppression act is aimed at minorities
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:10 PM
May 2012

I think Clinton's appeal to get minorities out to vote would be terrific on that very real, very serious issue for Wisconsin.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. Indeed. You make good point about his record on labor, but....
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:13 PM
May 2012

let's face it, labor will be voting on Tuesday, they are galvanized and have led this recall. Minorities could use the energizing.

So excited, can't wait for the details!!

Happydayz

(112 posts)
39. How can Clinton galvanize the black vote?
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:05 PM
May 2012

It was my understanding that during the primaries in 08, Clinton and his wife used racial dog whistling to galvanize the white working class vote. This isn't the 90s, African Americans aren't interested in the Clinton's any more.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Good, I would love to see Walker try to have a conversation with Clinton.
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:07 PM
May 2012

Maybe he should invite him to the rally, just so he can say 'I invited him to discuss the issues facing the country and Wisc, but he turned down my invitation'.

Anyhow, glad he's going, it should get some people motivated who may not be right now.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
10. Walker has a lopsided head and googly dumb eyes. My friend said,
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

"Every time I see him, he reminds me of one of Martin Short's er, less than intelligent characters (his character on the SCTV "Halfwits" skit, his synchronized swimmer character from SNL)."

Exactly... perfect comparison.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
11. “Folks in Wisconsin have been on the front lines of fighting for working, middle-class families
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:33 PM
May 2012

across America for more than 16 months,”the former president said in a statement. “I'm coming to Wisconsin to help Tom and the extraordinary grassroots volunteers on the ground.”


Yay!!

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
19. Yes. Even the Republicans I know long for the days of Clinton.
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:38 PM
May 2012

The points on labor and NAFTA are good ones, but ...

let's face it, labor will be voting on Tuesday, they are galvanized and have led this recall. Minorities could use the energizing (who tend to not make it to the polls in special elections).

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
18. He's golden, as long as nobody asks him about NAFTA + the latest pending free-trade agreement
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:37 PM
May 2012

The Wisconsin voters are, of course, going to decide whether to continue with a proven anti-union, anti-working class Governor or a pro-working class Governor.

Clinton is smooth. He should be able to make it sound like a populist who is in favor of the working class. If he can do that, and if they can either keep people distracted or keep people away from asking him about NAFTA, he should have it made. He and his handlers need to stay away from NAFTA. And whatever they do, they need to stay away from the latest wage-lowering, "free-trade" agreement which is in the works. (From the small amount of details that have been released, some have already called it NAFTA-on-steroids.)

No anti-Walker voter is going to stay home regardless of whether Clinton is able to come across as a populist. His appearance might actually help to get some pro-Democratic voters out that would have otherwise stayed home. Just stay away from NAFTA.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. This is what Wisconsin Democrats need.
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

I'm glad to hear this. The support from a top Democrat known nationwide will give some sense of solidarity and solidness to the Wisconsin effort to unseat a governor who is not just a Republican (not enough cause to go through the trouble of a recall) but a conniving, double-dealing, underhanded, anti-union, anti-middle-class Republican.

This is truly what we need at this time. Democrats across the nation need to come together to support working people and the entire middle class as well as the poor.

Hurrah for Bill Clinton!

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
30. That's all the more reason why the Clinton camp should have confirmed first
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:48 PM
May 2012

especially if they've released an official "statement." Doesn't he have a designated publicist?


rocktivity

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
40. Exactly -- and getting the voters' attention RIGHT BEFORE is a good strategy
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:27 PM
May 2012

IMO better than if he would have been there a month already and interest in him doing it had faded.

Don't forget what our real problem is -- GOTV!!! THE REPUKES SHOW UP. We just have to show up.

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