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Billboard for dating website targeting only white and straight people appears in Utah (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 OP
Meh NobodyHere Jan 2016 #1
Meh ret5hd Jan 2016 #4
. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #5
Not even the same thing. TM99 Jan 2016 #7
Unfortunately, you are right, TM99 SCantiGOP Jan 2016 #10
Yes, indeed. TM99 Jan 2016 #11
ZOMG!! Gay dating sites are heterophobic!! madinmaryland Jan 2016 #14
I know! Can you believe it! TM99 Jan 2016 #19
Since this is being done by a private business nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #23
date-a-racist.com mwrguy Jan 2016 #2
meh Travis_0004 Jan 2016 #8
Many preferences have racist foundations. .. kwassa Jan 2016 #27
Are Black exclusive dating sites also racist? Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #12
There are Black dating sites, but White people are allowed to post on them Yavin4 Jan 2016 #13
And there are Black only dating sites, and you will get kicked off if you aren't Black. Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #15
I doubt that. Link? ecstatic Jan 2016 #20
"At BlackSingles.com we bring single Black women and men together" cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #25
Nowhere on the page you linked to Mariana Jan 2016 #61
Realllly? alittlelark Jan 2016 #40
Really. Follow my link. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #49
No. mwrguy Jan 2016 #16
You cannot just say "safe space" and use it to excuse bigotry. Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #17
Agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #22
DU is a safe space. Why do you participate here ... kwassa Jan 2016 #28
There is nothing "safe" about DU SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #29
You are wrong. DU is, by definition, a safe space for Democrats. kwassa Jan 2016 #32
It's always good SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #35
I don't think you understand the issue of safe spaces. kwassa Jan 2016 #36
Here we go SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #37
No, you don't understand if you think DU is not a safe space. kwassa Jan 2016 #41
Anyplace where people can be attacked for disagreeing SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #42
Then safe spaces don't exist anywhere. kwassa Jan 2016 #44
You are free to believe whatever you choose to believe SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #45
I never said safe spaces are awesome. kwassa Jan 2016 #46
If DU is so "safe" 1939 Jan 2016 #58
Because they have additional safety requirements kwassa Jan 2016 #59
safe space for a political party LOL snooper2 Jan 2016 #54
GDP is a safe space? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #30
It sure is. No Republican views allowed. kwassa Jan 2016 #33
Being accused of being a Republican, however, is all good. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #39
Of course. kwassa Jan 2016 #48
You're suggesting Democrats are an oppressed minority? nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #53
No. kwassa Jan 2016 #56
Dating sites are about making a buck. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #52
Are Christian dating sites "date-an-anti-Semite?" (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #31
They could be. kwassa Jan 2016 #34
i just saw an ad for farmers only -- shurg saturnsring Jan 2016 #3
What happens in the barn stays in the barn. rug Jan 2016 #47
Racist edhopper Jan 2016 #6
That's a huge demographic in Utah madville Jan 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #18
A number of years ago I did some contract work for a hispanic dating site. Xithras Jan 2016 #21
I would love to see 'Anonymous' look in their direction.... alittlelark Jan 2016 #24
Remember Dave Chappelle's "I see white people" bit? Initech Jan 2016 #26
This is only news because the site is for straight white peoples, right? Inkfreak Jan 2016 #38
A business with a target market? The horror! Throd Jan 2016 #43
Lame. A dating site for people who are afraid MineralMan Jan 2016 #50
What makes you think they are afraid? linuxman Jan 2016 #51
I'm not really attracted to white people bigwillq Jan 2016 #55
I'm going to start a dating site for people who are perpetually outraged. Dr. Strange Jan 2016 #57
LOL KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #60
 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
1. Meh
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

You got white dating websites, you got black dating websites, you got interracial dating websites. You got websites targetting pretty much any demographic you can think of.

Are you really surprised or shocked by this?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
7. Not even the same thing.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

One is illegal and unconstitutional actions of pure racism. The other is just a dating site. You do know there are black dating sites too, right? Is that racism? There are also gay dating sites. Is that bigotry or discrimination?

The marketing is shitty but this is Utah after all.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
10. Unfortunately, you are right, TM99
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 05:57 PM
Jan 2016

In a free society, people have a right to do this kind of stupid shit.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
19. I know! Can you believe it!
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

And atheist dating sites are an affront to good Christians everywhere!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Since this is being done by a private business
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jan 2016

targeting private citizens...

The fountains were done by the government... why they were unconstitutional;

By the way there are dating sites for Jews, for Christians, For catholics, for hispanics. for African Americans... it is called marketing. And I expect to see more of these sites by the way, for multiple demographics.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. meh
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jan 2016

I dont think not wanting to date a black person makes somebody racist. People have preferences, I see nothing wrong with that.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
27. Many preferences have racist foundations. ..
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

As many people don't examine how their preferences came to be.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
13. There are Black dating sites, but White people are allowed to post on them
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jan 2016

I know. I joined one much to my chagrin.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. And there are Black only dating sites, and you will get kicked off if you aren't Black.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

I have no problem with that either way, they are a private concern and can run things as they see fit.

Not racist in any way, it's just their business model, same as the White single site.

People like to throw that racist label around before thinking it through.

Mariana

(15,624 posts)
61. Nowhere on the page you linked to
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jan 2016

does it say that white people are prohibited from joining or will be banned. You made the assertion that white people will be kicked off some dating sites. Please prove that assertion.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
17. You cannot just say "safe space" and use it to excuse bigotry.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

If segregation done by one race is racism, it is also thus for any race that practices it.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
29. There is nothing "safe" about DU
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jan 2016

from what I can tell. Disagreements on any number of issues occur on a near constant basis, and tons of people offended daily.

A great place - very enjoyable and tons of good information and news, but a "safe space"? Laughable.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
32. You are wrong. DU is, by definition, a safe space for Democrats.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jan 2016

right there in the TOS.

those espousing Republican views are shown to the door.

This is a totally protected Democratic forum. You are safe here from Republicans.

Enjoy your safety.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
37. Here we go
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jan 2016

"You don't agree with me, so you obviously don't understand!!!"

Sorry, but wrong again - I do understand the issue of safe spaces, and I still think it's bullshit.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
41. No, you don't understand if you think DU is not a safe space.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jan 2016

That is completely clear. You have yet to make a substantive response about this. Apparently you can't, which leads me to think you don't understand the issue.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
42. Anyplace where people can be attacked for disagreeing
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

is not a safe space. Anyplace where people are permitted to be offended is not a safe space.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with either of the above, but don't act like DU is a safe space when people are attacked, ridiculed and offensive every hour of every day. It's laughable.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
44. Then safe spaces don't exist anywhere.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jan 2016

because attacks can take place, within the boundaries of the safe space issues, in any one of them. There are only certain issues that are off-limits. Other free speech is not off-limits.

Outsiders don't like the the safe group boundaries, just as Republicans don't like the boundaries of DU. So what? DU is a safe space.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
45. You are free to believe whatever you choose to believe
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jan 2016

As am I. You think safe spaces are awesome? Great. I think they're bullshit.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
46. I never said safe spaces are awesome.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jan 2016

I pointed out that DU is a safe space, and you participate in it. Therefore, as follows from your statement, DU is bullshit.

If you don't like safe spaces, Discussionist is available to you. There is no limitation to only Democrats there.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
59. Because they have additional safety requirements
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jan 2016

For subgroups on DU

There is safe, and there is safer

madville

(7,847 posts)
9. That's a huge demographic in Utah
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jan 2016

Not really seeing the problem, there are Black, Hispanic, gay specific sites as well. Are those wrong?

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
21. A number of years ago I did some contract work for a hispanic dating site.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jan 2016

It was a Spanish language site that quite openly aimed itself at hispanic men and women of all races. At one point I asked about the legality of limiting the site to a single ethicity, and this is what I was told:

It is illegal to limit a business to a single race or ethnicity. It is completely legal to create a business that is open to all ethnicities, but is useless to anyone outside of their target audience.

During their signup process, the site asked about your racial and ethic self-identifications. ALL races and ethnicities were allowed in, but here's the kicker: The focus of the site was on matching hispanics with hispanics, so the hispanic ethnicity was ALWAYS a positive criteria in the searches. If you weren't hispanic, you could sign up for the site but you would NEVER appear in the search results. Why? Because you didn't meet the criteria the other daters were looking for. Similarly, if YOU tried to search for other people yourself, all of your matches would have very low match scores (and matchs scores were visible to the other person when they were trying to decide whether to respond to your message). Because it was a hispanic dating site, the site placed a large weight on ethnicity and downmatched any ethnic mismatches. There WERE non hispanics on the site and it would occasionally match them with each other, but they were few and far between. Non-hispanics could use the site, but they were nearly always wasting their time.

In order to be legal, I suspect that this white people dating site probably works the same way. People from all ethnicities should be able to sign up (it's illegal to deny services based solely on race), but the search algorithms will make it nearly impossible for non-whites to actually find anyone. Because they don't match the average users search criteria, they won't find matching results and won't appear in another users results.

This is how nearly every dating service specializes without running afoul of the law. You are not allowed to DENY people access, but you're not required to make a site useful for everyone.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
26. Remember Dave Chappelle's "I see white people" bit?
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jan 2016

If only Chappelle's Show were still around, he'd probably have a field day with this one.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
38. This is only news because the site is for straight white peoples, right?
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jan 2016

Because they're a quite a few sites that cater to certain sets and nobody blinks an eye. I think this is a bit of a nonstory.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
50. Lame. A dating site for people who are afraid
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jan 2016

of people of color? Nothing illegal about it, I suppose, but what a waste. I typed in the URL. The site is painfully slow to load. I predict a business failure soon.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
51. What makes you think they are afraid?
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jan 2016

Some people have zero attraction to people of certain races. That doesn't mean they're afraid, anymore than I'm afraid of obese women, men of any type, or old ladies. I just don't find myself sexualy attracted. A preference for one thing doesn't equate to fear of another thing.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
55. I'm not really attracted to white people
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jan 2016

So that site is not for me. But I really don't see the big deal. If you don't like it, don't visit. There's dating sites for all different types of people, and I am offended by none of them.

Dr. Strange

(26,058 posts)
57. I'm going to start a dating site for people who are perpetually outraged.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

Of course, it will probably piss a lot of people off.

KentuckyWoman

(7,400 posts)
60. LOL
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jan 2016

Actually LOL so hard it's startled the nurse out here in the hallway (hubby in hospital)

Thanks

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