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senz

(11,945 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:09 PM Jan 2016

Elizabeth Warren: "The American people ARE Progressive - and our day is coming."

Don't let the media fool you. We Americans are VERY progressive.

“Our values are America’s values, and America’s values are progressive values.”

  • 70% of Americans across this country support an increase of the federal minimum wage to at least $10.10 an hour. Republicans may vote to keep workers in poverty, but on minimum wage, the American people are Progressives.

  • Progressives believe that students shouldn’t be crushed by debt and the federal government should not make a profit on student loans. And so do 73% of Americans.

  • Progressives believe people should be able to care for sick family members without fear of losing their jobs, and so do 80% of Americans.

  • Progressives believe that millionaires and billionaires should pay the same tax rates as their secretaries, and so do two-thirds of all Americans.

  • Progressives believe that after a lifetime of work, people deserve to retire in dignity and that means a commitment to strengthening and expanding Social Security—and 79% of likely voters in last year’s election also supported increasing Social Security benefits.

  • Progressives believe in trade, but not the kind written behind closed doors by corporate lawyers that leave American workers eating dirt. Nearly two-thirds of Americans favor some sort of trade restrictions, and more than half oppose Fast Tracking trade deals.

  • Progressives believe that powerful corporations and billionaires have far, far too much influence over our politics and their stranglehold over our government rigs the game. Nearly three-quarters of America agrees.

  • Progressives believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher legal enforcement – and that, five years after Dodd-Frank – it’s time to stop pretending and really END Too Big to Fail with rules like the Glass-Steagall Act. And 79% of Americans believe Wall Street should be held accountable with tougher rules. Beltway Republicans may be willing to let the biggest banks break our economy again, but on Wall Street reform, the American people are Progressives.


We have a presidential election coming up. I think anyone running for that job – anyone who wants the power to make every key economic appointment and nomination across the federal government – should say loud and clear that they agree:

We don’t run this country for Wall Street and mega corporations. We run it for people.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-to-speak-at-netroots-nation-rally_55a938f8e4b03f76c5ee2be2

A 9 minute video of excerpts from Elizabeth Warren's 30-minute speech at the Netroots Nation annual convention in Phoenix Arizona (July, 2015) where she made these points:



The full video (29 minutes):


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Elizabeth Warren: "The American people ARE Progressive - and our day is coming." (Original Post) senz Jan 2016 OP
There's a lot of daylight between ten bucks and change an hour and fifteen bucks. MADem Jan 2016 #1
Especially the Glass-Steagall part, right? senz Jan 2016 #3
There's a lot of daylight between ten dollar ten cent and fifteen bucks. nt MADem Jan 2016 #7
There's a lot of daylight between Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #14
I think, to the average minimum wage worker, Glass Steagall means nothing--but fifteen bucks an MADem Jan 2016 #17
And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round,.... Phlem Jan 2016 #22
ANYthing besides rhetoric would be an improvement Plucketeer Jan 2016 #26
I don't disagree, but Congress ain't voting for fifteen. They will vote for something like Ten/ten. MADem Jan 2016 #54
Yeah - not THIS Congress. Plucketeer Jan 2016 #55
Free tuition. That's free college. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #31
I missed where Senator Warren spoke those words....? MADem Jan 2016 #45
Actually no, there's not. Not when $10.10 is immediate, and $15 is a few years future. Schema Thing Jan 2016 #49
So you're saying Elizabeth Warren is wrong? MADem Jan 2016 #53
Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren Tell Obama To 'Fight For $15' With Executive Power Schema Thing Jan 2016 #56
Did you even READ the article you linked to? Just because the phrase "Fight for 15" was in the MADem Jan 2016 #58
yes I read it. Why would you question if I read it? It support Warren and Bernie Schema Thing Jan 2016 #59
Because it does not support the thesis you are trying to advance. MADem Jan 2016 #60
I've been meaning to look this up. House of Roberts Jan 2016 #2
You're welcome! senz Jan 2016 #4
Thanks, senz. Rec. nt. Mc Mike Jan 2016 #5
It is good to know that our values are widely shared across the nation. senz Jan 2016 #13
Right. So many indys and gopers are just blinkered or deceived. Mc Mike Jan 2016 #48
Hey. I was told earlier today that Warren feels about Hillary the same way about Wall Street. onehandle Jan 2016 #6
Look at the Bills that Warren and Sanders have introduced together and are running beside DhhD Jan 2016 #23
Hillary and Warren have worked together many times since the 90s. onehandle Jan 2016 #50
Public opinion and the public's best interests have little effect on policymaking farleftlib Jan 2016 #8
Right on, Elizabeth! Kath1 Jan 2016 #9
Let's see here... TheProgressive Jan 2016 #10
In the same speech, she said senz Jan 2016 #11
Every single day that goes by... TheProgressive Jan 2016 #12
She's gonna team up with Bernie, SmittynMo Jan 2016 #15
Go Warren!! nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #16
And she signed a letter urging Hillary to run for President. pnwmom Jan 2016 #18
I believe that Warren sent out Happy Holidays cards to everyone too. Hillary got one, IMO. DhhD Jan 2016 #24
But she didn't send a public letter to Bernie urging him to run for President. pnwmom Jan 2016 #25
She didnt "send" it, she signed it. It was a group letter senz Jan 2016 #33
Not just "one of their own." A particular person. Hillary Clinton. She has been able pnwmom Jan 2016 #34
She has not endorsed anyone for president. senz Jan 2016 #36
It was more than a nice, collegial gesture. She wouldn't have signed it pnwmom Jan 2016 #37
Yes, yes, I've seen that. senz Jan 2016 #40
The letter wasn't an endorsement Oilwellian Jan 2016 #41
It's not an endorsement but it was more than she sent to Bernie. Why doesn't she just pnwmom Jan 2016 #42
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #19
It is looking more and more like that everyday. Saw the video of Elizabeth and Bill Moyers on Hill litlbilly Jan 2016 #30
I really want so badly to believe that. HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #20
OK a nation Iliyah Jan 2016 #27
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #21
Quotes and links! ornotna Jan 2016 #28
Thanks, ornotna - it's easy senz Jan 2016 #32
I'm sorry ornotna Jan 2016 #35
Sorry, I must be sarcasm challenged. senz Jan 2016 #38
It was my fault ornotna Jan 2016 #43
Warren enid602 Jan 2016 #29
I think she likes them both a lot and that's why she hasn't endorsed pnwmom Jan 2016 #44
you're right enid602 Jan 2016 #46
K & R for visibility of this N/T w0nderer Jan 2016 #39
K&R The only people who want it to run for Wall St are in Wall St. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #47
millionaires and billionaires should pay HIGHER tax rates than their secretaries Martin Eden Jan 2016 #51
Kick for a Senator who tells it like it is. Octafish Jan 2016 #52
Would have been nice lordsummerisle Jan 2016 #57

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. There's a lot of daylight between ten bucks and change an hour and fifteen bucks.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jan 2016

I don't see anything about "free college" there either.

She sounds like....Hillary!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. I think, to the average minimum wage worker, Glass Steagall means nothing--but fifteen bucks an
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jan 2016

hour is a sight to behold.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
26. ANYthing besides rhetoric would be an improvement
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jan 2016

Fifteen an hour sounds better'n ten-ten or twelve. Hell, nine an hour would be an improvement - and Glass Steagall would be a raise (in essence) for us all.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
54. I don't disagree, but Congress ain't voting for fifteen. They will vote for something like Ten/ten.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jan 2016

Warren gets that.

Like I said elsewhere in this thread: How do you eat an elephant? One forkful at a time.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. I missed where Senator Warren spoke those words....?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 04:40 AM
Jan 2016

Perhaps you can point it out in the excerpt?

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
49. Actually no, there's not. Not when $10.10 is immediate, and $15 is a few years future.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

But if all you go for is $10 bucks, $10 bucks is where the minimum will stagnate for years and years to come.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. So you're saying Elizabeth Warren is wrong?
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know anyone worth listening to who doesn't think we need to head in that direction, towards a livable wage.

But there are some people who want it NOW, and that--realistically--ain't happening.


How do you eat an elephant? One forkful at a time.

Elizabeth Warren gets that. I wish the people who claim to be her fans did, too.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
56. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren Tell Obama To 'Fight For $15' With Executive Power
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/elizabeth-warren-minimum-wage_n_2900984.html


WASHINGTON -- The Fight for $15 labor movement has found some high-profile allies in the U.S. Senate, and now they're asking President Barack Obama to get onboard.

In a letter to the White House led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Friday, 18 senators, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), asked Obama to issue a "model employer" executive order, which would give contracting preference to firms that pay a living wage, offer health care and sick leave, and guarantee union rights for workers.

"Mr. President, the stroke of your pen can have transformative impact for millions of workers," the letter states. "As low-wage fast food, retail and federal contract workers continue to strike in growing numbers to 'Fight for $15 and a Union,' we urge you to harness the power of the presidency to help these workers achieve the American Dream."

The letter notes that the president has held up for-profit companies like Costco as high-road employers, so the federal government itself should "invest our taxpayer dollars to incentivize model employers that commit to creating good jobs and to rebuilding America's ailing middle class."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Did you even READ the article you linked to? Just because the phrase "Fight for 15" was in the
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jan 2016

article, does NOT mean EW was throwing down for it. She's one of those "awful" incrementalists, like Hillary Clinton--who is aiming higher than ten bucks and ten cents, FWIW.

Here, let's look at the parts that are SALIENT to this discussion:

It didn't appear that Warren was actually trying to make the case for a $22 an hour minimum wage, but rather highlighting the results of a recent study that showed flat minimum wage growth over the past 40-plus years coinciding with surging inequality across a number of economic indicators.

Warren went on to argue that raising the federal minimum wage to over $10 an hour in incremental steps over the next two years -- a cause championed by President Barack Obama in his State of the Union address and since taken up in the Senate -- would not be as damaging for businesses as some critics have argued.


Now....like I said when a first jumped into this pool--there's a lot of daylight between ten dollar, ten cents and fifteen bucks.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
59. yes I read it. Why would you question if I read it? It support Warren and Bernie
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jan 2016

pushing for $15.00 per hour. Full stop. Over a few years, yes.


As opposed to Hillary:


"Many U.S. cities and municipalities have established a higher minimum wage than the federal rate. Bernie Sanders, who is Clinton's chief challenger for the Democratic Party nomination for the 2016 presidential election, has said the federal minimum wage should be raised to $15 an hour.

"I'm more comfortable saying let's get to $12," Clinton said at Grinnell, "in a reasonable, expeditious way."


No Hillary, let's fight for $15 "in a reasonable, expeditious way".


MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. Because it does not support the thesis you are trying to advance.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary is two bucks ahead of Warren. Warren is fighting for ten dollars and ten cents in a few years--that is what she SAID.

I still think you didn't read the doggone thing, given your most recent response to me.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
13. It is good to know that our values are widely shared across the nation.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jan 2016

You're very welcome, Mc Mike, and thank you!

Mc Mike

(9,260 posts)
48. Right. So many indys and gopers are just blinkered or deceived.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

They're not on board with the repugs' actual policy agendas, and would find them abhorrent if they understood them.

Thanks, again, s.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. Hey. I was told earlier today that Warren feels about Hillary the same way about Wall Street.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jan 2016

Still waiting for proof.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
23. Look at the Bills that Warren and Sanders have introduced together and are running beside
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

each other with. They are Senators that have no Insider money backers. Hillary is else where.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
50. Hillary and Warren have worked together many times since the 90s.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

I think the 'Not Hillary' Party is projecting something that has nothing to do with Warren or Sanders.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
8. Public opinion and the public's best interests have little effect on policymaking
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

Special interests rule in Washington. Methinks we the people are getting sick and tired of being kicked to the curb.

What we need is a ..... revolution.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
10. Let's see here...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jan 2016

Senator Sanders is Progressive while Clinton is basically a non-progressive republican...

Looks like Ms. Warren would be more inclined to support Sanders...

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
11. In the same speech, she said
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jan 2016
Anyone who wants to be President should appoint only people who have already demonstrated they are independent, who have already demonstrated that they can hold giant banks accountable, who have already demonstrated that they embrace the kind of ambitious economic policies that we need to rebuild opportunity and a strong middle class in this country.

We can’t afford to nibble around the edges any more. Money and influence peddling is strangling our country. Insider Washington is calling the shots. We need leadership that is willing to fight for this country, leadership that is willing to make working people a first priority, leadership that recognizes the importance of major, structural change – on everything from Wall Street regulation to tax policy to education to trade. We need leaders to show they understand the urgency of the moment, leaders to show some backbone and ambition.


So it certainly would appear that you are correct.
 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
12. Every single day that goes by...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jan 2016

...is another day I know Senator Sanders will be a great President of the US!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
15. She's gonna team up with Bernie,
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jan 2016

and it will then be all but over. Slam dunk, Done deal!!!!!

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
18. And she signed a letter urging Hillary to run for President.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

Did she write a letter to Bernie, too?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
24. I believe that Warren sent out Happy Holidays cards to everyone too. Hillary got one, IMO.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jan 2016

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
25. But she didn't send a public letter to Bernie urging him to run for President.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jan 2016

Which is not the same thing as a Holiday card.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. She didnt "send" it, she signed it. It was a group letter
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jan 2016

from all the female Democratic senators encouraging one of their own to go for it.

That's all it was.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
34. Not just "one of their own." A particular person. Hillary Clinton. She has been able
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jan 2016

to endorse Bernie at any time, and hasn't.

If she regretted signing the letter for Hillary, why hasn't she said so? If she'd prefer Bernie, why hasn't she endorsed him?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. She has not endorsed anyone for president.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jan 2016

The group letter to Hillary from all the female Democratic senators was not an endorsement. It was friendly encouragement for one of their own to go for it. It was a nice, collegial gesture.

Why isn't that enough for you?

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
37. It was more than a nice, collegial gesture. She wouldn't have signed it
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jan 2016

if she hadn't meant it. That's not the kind of person she is.

And she backed it up in interviews.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
40. Yes, yes, I've seen that.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jan 2016

Of course she meant that Hillary should go for it. Why not? Senator Warren is a nice person, as well as a good politician.

And of course she'd say "Hillary is terrific." Why not? Surely Hillary is terrific, as are most of the Democratic senators. It's not a terribly well thought-out, personal compliment. But it's friendly and nice.

However, you cannot conclude from those nice gestures that Elizabeth Warren subscribes to Hillary's views on the issues. You cannot conclude that until Senator Warren formally endorses Hillary. And even if she were to do so, it may very well be for purely political purposes -- for instance, if Hillary were to win the nomination, Elizabeth would have to endorse her, as would Bernie and all the Democrats. That would be quite different from agreeing with Hillary's position on the issues, or even thinking highly of her for that matter.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
41. The letter wasn't an endorsement
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jan 2016

Perhaps Bernie didn't get the letter because he didn't have enough estrogen. The original letter, you know, signed by all of the Dem women in the Senate, encouraged a fellow female colleague to run for the Presidency. Senator Warren has not endorsed a candidate for president to date. If you want, you can call her office on Monday to verify that fact.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
42. It's not an endorsement but it was more than she sent to Bernie. Why doesn't she just
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:35 AM
Jan 2016

clear this up and endorse him, if he's her preferred candidate?

It must be an awfully close call in her opinion.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
19. Kicked and recommended!
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jan 2016

This illustrates that Bernie Sanders is a centrist on his policy proposals.

My guess is Elizabeth Warren will become Bernie's running mate creating an unbeatable team.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
30. It is looking more and more like that everyday. Saw the video of Elizabeth and Bill Moyers on Hill
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jan 2016

and the bankruptcy bill, there is no way in hell she would ever back Hillary. She is lining up to either endorse Bernie and or be his running mate. It's coming, feel it in my bones, and my bones have been dead on since 1968.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
20. I really want so badly to believe that.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jan 2016

But I simply cannot.

This nation cannot seem to kick failed domestic and foreign policies. This nation's love for the extremely wealthy is beyond disturbing. It's penchant for violence and mean-spiritedness is a plague. It's unwillingness to help the least of us is barbaric.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
32. Thanks, ornotna - it's easy
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jan 2016

For the quotes set off w/blue background, copy and paste the quote into the "Message text" part of the reply form, then select the quote in your message text and press the "excerpt" button.

Links can be copied directly -- just copy and paste the URL, which is the address, the character string that starts with http and (usually) ends with html

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Sometimes I don't explain things so well. If anyone else is reading this and would like to explain it more clearly, please do.

ornotna

(11,482 posts)
35. I'm sorry
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jan 2016

I was being sarcastic because the were so many "claims" being made without proof. I should have used the sarcasm smiley.


It is a good post though.

And you explained beautifully, thanks for taking the time to do so.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
38. Sorry, I must be sarcasm challenged.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jan 2016

Now I feel rather embarrassed.

However, all the quoted material in my OP was taken directly from the Huffington Post link that I provided in the OP. You can also hear her saying the quoted material in the longer video.

I guess I'll let my explanation stand in case some brand new person comes along and finds it useful.

ornotna

(11,482 posts)
43. It was my fault
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jan 2016

No reason to feel embarrassed, there is a reason that smiley is there and I should have used it.

enid602

(9,687 posts)
29. Warren
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jan 2016

I guess I would be more inclined to view Elizabeth's comments as an endorsement of BS if she instead said:

The minimum wage will be %15.00/hr
College/University will be free of cost.
There will be greater sick leave for family care (I think Hillary said this as well).
The wealthiest should pay 90% taxes, like under FDR.
Substantial SS payment hikes (that will go well among Millenials).
I never met a trade deal I liked.
Corporations and the wealthy have far too much influence in politics (I think Hillary said this as well).
The business model for capitalism is corruption.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
44. I think she likes them both a lot and that's why she hasn't endorsed
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jan 2016

one or the other.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
47. K&R The only people who want it to run for Wall St are in Wall St.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jan 2016

Some of them vote, some of them don't, but all of them do everything they can to assure nothing ever gets better for anyone but themselves.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
51. millionaires and billionaires should pay HIGHER tax rates than their secretaries
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

I think the majority of Americans would agree.

Other than a slight rewording on that one point, the list is spot on.

lordsummerisle

(4,653 posts)
57. Would have been nice
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

If more of all these progressives had come out for the 2014 elections...

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