Wow, ABC News. Just, wow.

[marmar]

Saturday night, while good Americans were enjoying the blessings of liberty on the fruited plains of the best country God ever created that isn’t named France or Spain or even Canada, this happened:

Militia members protesting a federal prison sentence for two Oregon ranchers convicted on charges of setting fire to federal land have occupied the headquarters of a national park.

The protesters include Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s son, Ammon, and two of his brothers. Also among them is Ryan Payne, who organized snipers to aim weapons at federal officers during the Bundy Ranch standoff last year.

They told OregonLive that they are accompanied by about 150 others and are hunkered down at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters. The group is described by reporter Les Zaitz as “hard core militia” who adopted the ranchers’ cause as their own.

“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,” Ammon Bundy told Zaitz in a phone interview from inside the headquarters. “We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely. This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.”

He would not rule out the possibility of violence.

If that seems confusing, a shorter description would be: heavily armed militants took over a federal building and they are threatening to fight to the death because they don’t recognize U.S. laws.

Wait, that still seems unduly harsh.

Here, let ABC explain it to you via Twitter:



Well now, that seems quaint and delightful and probably fun, doesn’t it? I was so encouraged that I even applied for a job at ABC by showing off my spin chops: “Adorably rambunctious white dads hold campground sleepover and patriotic Constitution hijinks at national park.” ................(more)

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/abc-killed-journalism-saturday-night-by-using-this-one-weird-tweet/

[Scuba]

1. Gives whole new meaning to "wildlife refuge action."

[MohRokTah]

2. White Privilege. eom

[Baitball Blogger]

8. x1000

[daleanime]

13. White Conservative Republican Privilege......

hopefully a brave politician will wag a finger at them.

[SunSeeker]

58. Exactly. nt

[Hortensis]

85. Sunday night and ABC leads national and world news

with this little group of would-be outsider insurrectionists whom most of the town wants gone, including the two members of the Hammond family who are due to report to finish their prison sentences.

What was originally happening here -- before this politically motivated little group arrived?

"A jury sitting in Pendleton, Oregon found the Hammonds guilty of the arsons after a two-week trial in June 2012. The trial involved allegations that the Hammonds, owners of Hammond Ranches, Inc., ignited a series of fires on lands managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM), on which the Hammonds had grazing rights leased to them for their cattle operation.

The jury convicted both of the Hammonds of using fire to destroy federal property for a 2001 arson known as the Hardie-Hammond Fire, located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property.

Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out “Strike Anywhere” matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to “light up the whole country on fire.” One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations.

After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.

The jury also convicted Steven Hammond of using fire to destroy federal property regarding a 2006 arson known as the Krumbo Butte Fire located in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and Steen Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. An August lightning storm started numerous fires and a burn ban was in effect while BLM firefighters fought those fires.

Despite the ban, without permission or notification to BLM, Steven Hammond started several “back fires” in an attempt save the ranch’s winter feed. The fires burned onto public land and were seen by BLM firefighters camped nearby. The firefighters took steps to ensure their safety and reported the arsons.

By law, arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. When the Hammonds were originally sentenced, they argued that the five-year mandatory minimum terms were unconstitutional and the trial court agreed and imposed sentences well below what the law required based upon the jury’s verdicts. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, however, upheld the federal law, reasoning that “given the seriousness of arson, a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense.” The court vacated the original, unlawful sentences and ordered that the Hammonds be resentenced “in compliance with the law.” In March 2015, the Supreme Court rejected the Hammonds’ petitions for certiorari. Today, Chief Judge Aiken imposed five year prison terms on each of the Hammonds, with credit for time they already served."

[Ed Suspicious]

3. K&R

[KeepItReal]

4. I can't find any images of these militia intruders brandishing weapons at the Fed. Bldg

What's up with that?

[malaise]

5. Yep armed militia are 'peacefully protesting' while

threatening to use their weapons against the Feds because they don't like a court decision and so have seized a Federal Building.

Well done ABC - that is some fucking spin.

[RKP5637]

11. Just good old boys keeping us safe. Patriots and all.

What a deluded bunch they are.

ABC should hide in shame.

[catnhatnh]

66. That's whats missing-Merle Haggard

Just'a good ol' boys
Never meanin' no harm.
Beats all you never saw
Been in trouble with the law
Since the day they was born
Staightnin' the curves
Flatnin the hills
Someday the mountain might get 'em
But the law never will
Makin' their way
The only way they know how
That's just a little bit more
Than the law will allow...

[XemaSab]

68. We're keeping Merle here with us

He's not allowed to go to Oregon.

[dmr]

74. That's Waylon Jennings' theme song for The Dukes o Hazzard.

I do love me some Merle, though. What a voice. My favorite is Misery and Gin.

[catnhatnh]

75. Sorry...

I keep gettin' my good old boys confused....

[hopemountain]

88. kern river

many lives lost on that river or on the windy highway along it - including 3 dear friends and their family members.

[RR2]

120. Guess you don't keep up with the times, try this Merle Haggard tune.....

He also defended the Dixie Chicks as well, he is not the person you think he is.....

The U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan certainly inspired a lot of anger and outrage from people all over the world. The wars also inspired many songs.

One you may have missed is "That's the news" from country music veteran Merle Haggard. Though his most famous songs, "Okie from Muskogee," which ridiculed pot-smoking hippies and anti-war protestors in the late 1960s, and the follow-up, "Fightin' side of me", are likely more satirical than they were interpreted by listeners at the time, Haggard's music was embraced as pro-war anthems.

But Haggard is clearly no hawk when it comes to the Iraq War. First, Haggard defended Texan band the Dixie Chicks after some country music artists and fans pilloried them for criticizing President George W. Bush. Then in 2003, not long after Bush declared "victory" on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln, Haggard's song complained that.....http://www.peoplesworld.org/the-best-protest-songs-of-the-decade/

[dmr]

132. I think you misread my post.

I'm a big fan of Merle. I fell in love with his voice many decades ago. I've tremendous respect for him, not only for his stance on war, but for his authenticity.

My post above was just to clarified who wrote and sung the song from the Dukes of Hazzard.

Great video you posted there.

[RR2]

134. Agreed....

[pangaia]

6. “The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,”

The English language will never be the same.

[XemaSab]

56. Their beef is with the BLM

not the USFWS.

This makes no sense in several ways.

[passiveporcupine]

69. In this case it is the forest service they are fighting

To them it's all the same. Any federal land use needs to be turned back over to the people.

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is an agency within the United States Department of the Interior that administers more than 247.3 million acres (1,001,000 km2) of public lands in the United States

from wiki..it's all federal.

The group that has taken over the wildlife administration compound (multiple buildings) is the Bundy militant group, and they could give a shit about the Hammonds. This is about them taking on the Federal government. And they say they are going to stay there for years until they win and they are willing to die for it.

I hate to tell them this, but they are not going to get the Federal Government to give them that forest land. Ain't gonna happen. Will they die for their cause? I guess we have to wait and see.

[louis-t]

76. I had some tyranny placed upon me once.

Took a week to get the stains out.

[RKP5637]

7. MSM AKA "Misleading Shitty Media" n/t

[Baitball Blogger]

9. More ammunition for the political comedy commentators.

[marmar]

10. Jimmy Dore will have a field day with this one.

[sellitman]

12. That Liberal Press at it again.

Oh wait.....

[Glitterati]

14. Compare this to Jefferson MO

Where's the national guard? Where's the tanks? Where's the troops? Where's the cops screaming at reporters?

Oh, right. The "protestors" are the wrong color for all that violence.

[brush]

118. Do you mean Ferguson, MO?

[Glitterati]

121. Yeah, sorry

was angry and not paying attention to what I was typing.

[2naSalit]

15. I was once misrepresented in an ABC production

about 20 years ago. I wrote and demanded an apology, they never even responded.

Remember, ABC is owned by DisneyCorp who specializes in fantasy.

[polichick]

16. Thanks for the heads-up.

[HereSince1628]

17. Tyranny? You poach deer using improvised structures, burn them to destroy the evidence

and thereby create a small wildfire, and you get cited for the fire...

You ignore the citation and you get arrested.

This is a militia only in the sense of Robin Hood and his band merry men in green tights and funny feathered caps.

[eppur_se_muova]

22. Uh, Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor ...

not what these yobbos are about at all.

(Anyway, that's the legend.)

[HereSince1628]

26. Robin Hood poached deer, an action encouraging others to do the same.

That's also the claim against the Hammonds

Are you're another leftwing subversive in tight fitting tights (just kidding!!!!!)

[SoLeftIAmRight]

18. I have suggested a easy solution several times - here it is again

Bring in the fire fighting helicopters - drop a load of water every hour on the hour

the cold wet dumb asses will freeze or walk out looking like the dumb asses they are

[DUbeornot2be]

40. I'd go...

... a tad farther by mixing in some cherry kool aid and bringing in the bee hives...

[SoLeftIAmRight]

43. that stings

ha ha

[DUbeornot2be]

50. Added benefit...

... of gumming up the action on all their favorite weapons... cut off the Hoppes No.9 and it's only a matter of time...

[SoLeftIAmRight]

53. humiliate the clowns

yep

[A Simple Game]

60. I like your idea, my only change would be liquid manure instead of water. Seems more fitting. n/t

[MasonDreams]

93. I see opportunities here. My Government has the resources to do this right.

The FBI may be short on folks who speak Arabic & Farsi, but Festus Westren? I reckon you could round up a mess of 'em. Their job is law enforcement, we know the Bureau could give 'em enough rope to hang themselves. All the people that help criminals are also criminals.
Enforce the law G men, bring them all in, just like other criminal organisations. GWB could tell ya how to smok'em out! Hey, Clint Eastwood's done this sort of thing right?
I like the loud rock music thing w/ Noriega, try that.

[davidpdx]

98. What would be better

(and I said this in another thread) is to turn off the power and water, then cover all the windows. It will be dark, cold, and the bathrooms won't work. After 24 hours the cowards will surrender. Then throw them all in jail and charge them with mounting a insurrection of the government.

[ladyVet]

112. I second the motion. Something has to be done, it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, if these were black people, they'd be dead already, with falsified evidence, missing body cam footage and paid-for investigations.

[SHRED]

19. "Militia"...bullcrap...they're terrorists.

[alfredo]

21. Armed anti government christian terrorist.

[SwankyXomb]

38. And white.

That's the key to their success in not being shot and left to die in the streets.

[alfredo]

70. True.

[Nay]

87. Yep. Sad to say. nt

[LiberalArkie]

20. Now we know what we did wrong at the Occupy protests. No one saw the protests as "Peaceful"

We should have been heavily armed, that is the classification of "Peaceful Protest" these days.

[Amimnoch]

63. +1000. Really.

[oldandhappy]

23. Cut the water, cut the electricity. Stand back.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. Cut the BEER.

[oldandhappy]

90. yes! You got it!

[MADem]

104. Put a little Ex-Lax in the beer. That'll blast 'em out. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

106. All new meaning to "starting a revolutionary movement".

[MADem]

107. It would certainly be unique in the annals of modern civil disobedience!

If they had any sense, they'd be scared shitless!!!

[raindaddy]

24. Imagine what would've happened if the Occupy Movement would've armed themselves,

taken over a Wall Street building, threatening to kill anyone who tries to stop them...

[onecaliberal]

30. ^^^That right fucking there^^^

[Pharaoh]

31. was just about to post the same thing

they would of course swiftly beaten and thrown into gitmo.

[Orrex]

41. We'd still be under martial law

[LiberalArkie]

65. How about the Armed Occupy Movement demanding their 2nd amendment rights and 1st

amendment rights to occupy the building as a statement of freedom of speech.

[demmiblue]

25. K&R

[Helen Borg]

27. Terrorists!

[Shrike47]

28. They are terrorists, ABC news. Say so. Terrorists. Use the word.

[jalan48]

29. So if this had been the Black Panthers?

Probably an army-type raid with tanks as back up.

[tblue37]

47. When the CA Black Panthers armed themselves to protect their own neighborhoods, then governor

Ronald Reagan pushed through gun control legislation in California:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2013/01/black_panthers_and_gun_control_the_nras_flip_flop.html

The Panthers responded to racial violence by patrolling black neighborhoods brandishing guns -- in an effort to police the police. The fear of black people with firearms sent shockwaves across white communities, and conservative lawmakers immediately responded with gun-control legislation.

Then Gov. Ronald Reagan, now lauded as the patron saint of modern conservatism, told reporters in California that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons." Reagan claimed that the Mulford Act, as it became known, "would work no hardship on the honest citizen." The NRA actually helped craft similar legislation in states across the country {emphasis added}.

When black MOVE protesters holed up in their homes in Philadelphia, the government *firebombed* them, even though it was their homes and women and children lived there, too. The entire block was burned down, and FIVE CHILDREN were among the 11 people who died there.

[jalan48]

52. And Fred Hampton getting shot in the back by the Chicago police while laying in bed.

[CincyDem]

102. LWB (Laying while black). You know that chit can't be tolerated in Chiraq.

[LuvNewcastle]

32. Put on some Public Enemy, very loud,

and watch them scatter like roaches when the lights are turned on. It would be so easy to get them out of there.

[Laser102]

33. I would ask what the hell is wrong with ABC news, but we all know it's everything!

[jwirr]

34. Wildlife refuge? I wonder if this bunch of criminals believe

in protecting the animals?

[KittyWampus]

35. They don't believe in Federal Lands, period.

[The Green Manalishi]

36. I'm sure our SWAT teams need some good anti terrorist training

Make examples of them

Anyone who wants to be a martyr should be obliged.

[Jack Rabbit]

37. I guess next Cliven Bundy will be made into the hero of a Disney movie

The story of how one patriotic American family man stood down the federal tyrants again and again.

[valerief]

39. I guess they're "Acceptable Terrorists." nt

[marble falls]

44. Just proves that you can disclaim white privilege but you can never give it up....

Treat those terrorists like the terrorists they are.

[Lizzie Poppet]

54. Right wing privilege just as much as white in this case, really.

If this had been the (largely white up here in the PNW) Occupy movement carrying out an armed protest, there would have already been a bloodbath.

[SHRED]

45. If their names were Mohammed...

...it would be over by now.

[forest444]

46. I haven't so much as looked at the ABC News website for years; it's been totally tea-bagged.

Especially their business and world news sections; but really all of them.

[Bjorn Against]

48. It might be worth checking out their Twitter feed today

They are getting hammered for this.

[forest444]

51. Thanks. Don't mind if I do.

[Geronimoe]

49. Without the Fed

The rancher's land would be Native American land that was stolen from them by the Fed.

[Depaysement]

55. I feel sorry for the wildlife

They have to work inside the wire.

Interrupt their S-4 and force these fobbits out.

[lastlib]

57. If they were Muslims.......

Why are we giving these bastards a pass??!?

. . . . . .

[jtuck004]

59. Dear head make-believe terrorist: Enjoy your stay. If you come across the lunch in the fridge

on the third floor, you may not want to eat it. I suspect all you occupier types get hungry, or maybe just rifle through people's desks like the petty little criminals you are. So I wouldn't be surprised if you find it. It's in a plain brown bag, because those are very inexpensive.

Oh, it's Edith's egg salad, which is really good when it is fresh, but I don't even think those chickens are alive any longer.

Take care.

[perdita9]

61. Gee, I thought the Bundy's only wanted guns for personal protection

Not to attack our democatically elected government or anything.

[FailureToCommunicate]

62. As a DUer quipped during the Clive Bundy Navada stand off: Drop tear gas. These bearded fools

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wouldn't last long: and gas masks wouldn't protect their hairy mugs.

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(edited to correct image)

[DashOneBravo]

109. That's the cast from

Lone Survivor .

[FailureToCommunicate]

123. fixed

Thanks

[Bernardo de La Paz]

117. Instead, Drop beef jerky laced with estrogen. nt

[Docreed2003]

64. Let's just imagine...

If armed BLMs protesters took control of an abandoned government building, or armed Muslims took control of one of the many abandoned churches in inner city USA....do you think for a minute that they would be referred to as "peaceful protesters"? No, they would be shut down with quickness. The Feds are reluctant to engage with these nutters over fears of creating a 21st C Waco. I'm not proposing we wipe them out, but at least cut off all utilities, cut off their supplies, and wait for them to come out.

[Jim Beard]

80. They might get the same treatment the people who attack Ft.Sumter got

----A raw ass for 150 years. Thats America

[spanone]

67. K&R...

[Yallow]

71. They Need Their Own Country

Call it Dumfukistan.

[merrifield]

91. Yep.

They want to establish a cowliphate, after they go on a Yeehad.

[chapdrum]

94. Second that Yep

Welcome - and same for your sense of humor.

[Yallow]

72. What If They ALL Got The Freddie Gray Treatment

I wonder what would happen.

Do we even have a country any more?

[CanonRay]

73. Just imagine BLM trying this stunt

The'd all be dead already.

[Duppers]

77. WTF. What a load-of-crap reporting.

Great video posted here..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017318593

[neverforget]

78. Militia = Y'all Qaeda

[lob1]

92. LOL. Great line.

[Lorien]

116. Vanilla ISIS

Waging a Yeehawed against 'Murica!

[SpankMe]

79. Well, at least the story is now on the "front page" of abcnews.go.com

http://abcnews.go.com/US/militia-family-cliven-bundy-federal-land-national-wildlife/story?id=36064909

[FreedomRain]

81. Unstaffed building

NYT

As a potential federal employee at USFWS or BLM*, ( I am spamming the applications around), I was especially interested in whether there were workers present. Thankfully, or perhaps by design, there was not.

*Bureau of Land Management, not our friends with the same initials

[Qutzupalotl]

82. The Harney County sheriff says they were attempting to overthrow the government:

On January 2, 2015 in Harney County, Oregon a group of men and women seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Headquarters located in Harney County, Oregon. The refuge headquarters was empty at the time of the seizure due to it being the weekend.

These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives to attempt to over throw the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.

We are currently working jointly with several organizations to make sure the citizens of Harney County are safe and this issue is resolved as quickly and peaceful as possible. At this time we do not have any information that any other areas in Harney County are in immediate danger.

We ask that people stay away from the refuge for their safety. We also ask that if anyone sees any of these individuals in the area to please contact law enforcement and do not confront the individuals themselves.

We are currently working to establish 1-800 phone lines for people to call if they have questions. More information will be provided as it is available.


David M. Ward, Sheriff

http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2016-01/1002/90811/Harney_County.doc

[sulphurdunn]

83. These clowns are part of a much larger project

to steal public lands in the west by crooked business interests, their Chambers of Commerce and hired legislatures. The idiots in the building are too stupid to realize they're just pawns in a huge land grab. They probably think they are patriots. Maybe you can't actually have freedom in a country with legions of armed people who are so stupid and easily manipulated.

[IDemo]

86. Every now and then, someone tries digging up the Sagebrush Rebellion

The Sagebrush Rebellion was a movement during the 1970s and 1980s that sought major changes to federal land control, use and disposal policy in the American West where, in 13 western states, federal land holdings include between 20% and 85% of a state's area. Notably, supporters of this movement wanted more state and local control over these lands, if not outright transfer of them to state and local authorities and/or privatization.

--Republican Ronald Reagan declared himself a sagebrush rebel in an August 1980 campaign speech in Salt Lake City, telling the crowd, "I happen to be one who cheers and supports the Sagebrush Rebellion. Count me in as a rebel."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagebrush_Rebellion

[duhneece]

111. Our county of 62,000 has spent half a million

Their goal is to take this to the Supreme Court. THey have already courted/invited a lawsuit.
My county, Otero, in south central NM has been a member of the American Lands Council, has an ALEC 'Star Legislator' (state) AND a US Congressman (whose money comes from the oil industry) all are fighting to 'take back our lands'...i.e. to steal from the public lands...not so very different from the Teapot Dome Scandal a hundred years ago.
This, along with attempted state legislation that would have jailed a woman who'd been raped but wanted an abortion, is why I intend to run, even if I don't have a chance in this Tea Party/Republican county.

[duhneece]

110. Yes, yes, YES!

Our county is included in this effort, with a full county commission which has voiced support for Bundy and will probably support this effort, unless something really bad happens.

[Lorien]

114. The Koch brothers are paying the Bundys

Media Matters had an article about it.

[DirkGently]

84. "Occupied" a federal building with guns & threats.

Nice try equating that with thousands of kids marching peacefully in the streets there, ABC.

[hopemountain]

89. criminal arsonist poachers burn 127 acres of the american people's land

to cover up stealing / poaching operation deserve to go to jail for 5 years. the "patriot militias" are exploiting the rancher's issues to land grab for their own power mongering tyranny of the common folks in harney country and oregon.

[Dustlawyer]

96. Just tell the Waco, Texas police that these nuts are bikers heading to Waco next!

That will take care of things!

[chapdrum]

97. Mickey & Minnie performed as expected

at the last Demo debate.

Mickey & Minnie (so named for their ultimate employer) would be David Muir and Martha Raddatz.

Good thing that Mickey's a cartoon character, otherwise he'd've been skewered (or least pointed out) for
tampering with the debate process - by suggesting to Bernie (and successfully, to boot) that he apologize to Hillary for the database
controversy.

Just another mega corporation/asteroid struttin' its stuff (because it can).

(Q: What is the difference between corporations and asteroids?
A: Corporations were created by humans.)

[Jim Beard]

99. The Bubdys all over again

[link:Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?|Who are the Bundys, the family at the center of the Oregon occupation?]

The armed occupation of a wildlife reserve in rural Oregon over the weekend marked the national re-emergence of the Bundy family — a clan of ranchers who have amassed vocal supporters during their decades-long clash with the federal government over land rights.

The Bundy family makes up perhaps the best known of the current crop of activists who think that the federal government — through expanding environmental and land regulation — has unconstitutionally infringed on the rights of citizens and that armed confrontation is necessary to curb that perceived overreach.

Best known among the Bundys is Cliven, the family patriarch, a Nevada rancher who federal officials say has been illegally grazing his cattle on federal land for decades.

That dispute came to a head in April 2014, when the U.S. Bureau of Land Management tried to move Bundy’s cattle, and he in turn vowed to shoot any federal agent who entered the land.

His supporters took up arms, and, eventually, the federal agents ceded to Bundy’s demands that they leave.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, says that victory strengthened Bundy, his sons and their supporters, who have armed themselves against federal agents in several other land disputes, including over the weekend in eastern Oregon.

“When the federal government was stopped from enforcing the law at gunpoint, that energized this entire movement,” said Heidi Beirich of the law center. “When you have a big win like they did at the Bundy ranch, it emboldens people. . . . It is definitely a recipe for disaster.”

The law center said that in 2014, it identified 202 anti-government militia and “patriot” groups, including the Bundy family and their supporters. And, Beirich said, after the Bundys’ victory in Nevada, the center thinks that number grew by one-third in 2015.

Since running federal officers off his ranch, Bundy and his supporters have become a traveling troop — co-opting various incidents in which they think the federal government is over-regulating people. In April, the Bundy family involved itself in a dispute at the Sugar Pine Mine, during which a local miner took up arms against federal agents who said he did not own the surface rights to the land he was mining. Other members of the Bundy operation went to the border, arguing that if the federal government would not prevent illegal immigration, they would do it themselves.

[Ilsa]

100. Oh hell.

Just nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

101. How is this any different from your average college sit-in?

They're committing a few infractions. Maybe even (gasp) a minor misdemeanor. And yet, the hard left here is out for blood.
Seems hypocritical of you guys to me.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Glitterati]

122. College sit-ins NEVER involved ARMED protestors vowing to DIE

video taping goodbyes to their families.

You cannot, under any circumstance, equate this to non-violent protests.

[stillwaiting]

127. You're just ridiculous. This EXACT thinking is rampant at far right-wing sites. nt

[Rex]

133. That one begs for attention, poor dear.

'Notice me' replies are such sad little replies...

[Rex]

103. Of course the GOPukes come out and make excuses for these domestic terrorists.

Are there anything more pathetic then RWing domestic terrorists sympathies and/or enablers? I don't think so... I think they are the lowest scum on the planet...next to Foxnews actors. They seem to like bootlicking.

[rhett o rick]

105. This is the America you will continue to get if you support the Wealthy 1% and their candidate

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H. Clinton.

[ladyVet]

113. Truth. We have armed insurection right out in public, and our "Democratic" government does nothing.

Meanwhile, unarmed black people live in fear of their lives daily.

Any anyone who can't see the difference between peaceful civil disobedience and this type of action probably shouldn't be here.

[George II]

124. Never miss a chance to take a shot at Clinton, do you. Even if it's totally off-topic.

[rhett o rick]

128. I am reminding people that if they don't want to continue with this crap they need to vote

for change. I know you guys are tickled with the status quo and don't mind if the wealth gap continues. But some of us are fighting the big money control of our government like good Democrats. Not worshiping the wealthy.

[George II]

129. You're assuming quite a bit in that "I know you guys......blah blah". Fact is you DON'T know.

[rhett o rick]

131. I have asked over and over how supporting the wealthy will help the poor.

The wealthy don't give up a dime without expecting pay-back, so explain why one would support the wealthy other than wealthy worship.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

108. http://abc.go.com/feedback

http://abc.go.com/feedback

Tell them how you feel!

[Lorien]

115. Go to their Facebook pages as well

Hit them hard, and hit them often!

[betsuni]

119. I had a big cush on George Stephanopoulos in the '90s.

I'm so ashamed. Betrayed.

[ffr]

125. We'll protest the protesters by cutting back on red meat intake

Already do. And we only buy organic certified meats, which I doubt any of these ranchers beef qualifies for.

[thereismore]

126. Well, this is occupation, sort of like OWS, innit?

OWS people were treated worse than these terrorists. So far, anyway.

[Blue_Tires]

130. not surprised, sadly...

[Odin2005]

135. White Privilege in action.