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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmmon Bundy says he went to Oregon because "The Lord was not pleased" and wanted "accountability"
"I began to understand how the Lord felt about the Hammonds," Bundy says in the video. "I began to understand how the Lord felt about Harney County and about this country. And I clearly understood that the Lord was not pleased with what was happening to the Hammonds If we allowed the Hammonds to continue to be punished, there would be accountability."
In another video, also posted Dec. 31, militia member John Ritzheimer bids farewell to his family as he prepares to drive to Oregon, where he says he is "100 percent willing to lay my life down in order to fight tyranny."
http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/02/militia-group-takes-over-federal-building-in-eastern-oregon-because-the-lord-was-not-pleased/
Let's be very clear; this is an act of terrorism from religious extremists.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)hiding behind Jesus' robe.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)And all are eastern oregonian paid their bills. It was a religion with them. He doesnt. His word means zip. He's no western man.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)invocation of "the Savior" to justify his violation of law.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Isolate them, cut them off so they can't advertise themselves. Have a water truck available if needed for fire protection. Arrest and prosecute...this has to end. They want to be martyrs.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)our great state. That is all. -RV
haikugal
(6,476 posts)I agree with you, however...crazy town exists everywhere.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I predict the government will acquiesce to their demands and nobody will do a day in jail, let alone end up in federal prison.
Given reactions on DU, the Bundy Doctrine will apply here as it did with that rank terrorism.
"We do NOT negotiate with terrorists"*
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*Unless they are Caucasian.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)Many Christians don't regard Mormons as Christian.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)is very depressing, if I wanted this level of discussion I could be talking to tRump supporters. Jail is not negotiation, and jail is where they belong.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Ergo, there's only one possible outcome.
The Feds will cave in and nobody will do time.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)It's one thing to say you're protesting an unjust prison sentence. Now he just looks like some dude being led to Oregon by the voices in his head.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Strange how the Big Guy didn't get very jazzed about it until conservative white men were subject to that law. All those other folks who had to serve mandatory minimums for a rock of crack? God didn't care. But a white man having to serve the full five years for setting a fire to cover up evidence of another crime? To your tents, O Israel!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I posted this OP last night after hearing about this armed insurrection, in tiny snippets
of news that may have missed had I blinked. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027493002
Another similar take on this from AddictingInfo
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/03/why-the-hell-are-our-news-media-whitewashing-domestic-terrorism-in-oregon/
Gman
(24,780 posts)So when will the media ask how they were radicalized? Were they "normal" and visited some nut right wing preacher and came away radicalized? Will we see quotes from family and friends saying they were fun people until they visited this preacher? Then they acted dark and started talking about the constitution and founding fathers?
cali
(114,904 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Terrorism is defined as violence or the threat of violence to achieve political goals. This group is armed and they have explicitly stated that they will use violence if there is any attempt to remove them from the property.
Would you consider it terrorism if ISIS did the exact same thing?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)mothers against fracking for clean, safe water for their children. They would be declared eco-terrorists.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)now meet the cousins, Gomorrah and Belphegor
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Flat voices, little affect, droning tone. Not sure what it means, but the similarities are there.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)They would be shot and arrested or arrested and shot..
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)Society's rules & regs won't do. Democracy for me,
but none for you.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)We need to stop letting in immigrants from Christian countries. And moderate evangelicals need to speak up and denounce these radical yee-hawdists
AzDar
(14,023 posts)and urge them to seek professional medical assistance.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Does he still have to answer for any offenses? Is there still a contingent of militia there? Would this be a good time to take action against the father?
And...
Ammon, if I were you and thought that the lord was not pleased and wanted accountability, I would be fearful of my life. That and I would wonder why the lord wanted me to go to Oregon to hold me accountable for my past sins.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)and also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_(Book_of_Mormon_explorer)
The BOM recycles a lot of names, this is not uncommon.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It used to be called "mental illness," aka "batshit crazy." Now it's Jesus! Kinda like Jeb!
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)If you liked what was said, they were recieving messages from Above... If you didn't you burned them at the stake.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)so we had Chip Kelly fired last week
Seriously, I don't think that's how the Lord works else I'd be using it for all the misery in my life.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)neither socks nor snacks. And when Ammon went, Behold! he found the refuge was cold and empty, without either socks or snacks, just as in his vision"
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)you don't see me occupying Trump Towers (not that I'm recommending we take over billionaire mansions, a la Bundy).
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