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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSHE's BACK-Kathy Nickolaus--Notorious-Wisconsin-FINDER-Of-Repub Votes-"Has Control Of Vote-Counting"
After the April controversy, Nickolaus pledged to step down from handling the county's election operations. But ahead of Gov. Scott Walker's recall election on June 5, the most expensive election in state history, recent evidence suggests Nickolaus still has control over the county's vote-counting. Observers and news reports from the recall's May 8 primary say Nickolaus looked like her usual self on election night. The WTMJ news station reported that Nickolaus "appeared to be very much in charge of the count." Says another observer, who asked to remain anonymous to speak openly: "On election night, Kathy Nickolaus was there, and she made it seem as if she was in control."
Republican county executive Dan Vrakas, who said "the public... lost faith in our election process in Waukesha County" because of Nickolaus' failures, has denied that Nickolaus remains in charge of election operations. But after Nickolaus' involvement in the May 8 primary, Vrakas took to the press to say he was "very disappointed" that she showed up. "I'd prefer that she wasn't here on election night but I can't ban her from the building anymore than I can ban anyone else from the building," Vrakas told the Waukesha Freeman. Vrakas said that a deputy of Nickolaus's had taken control of the vote-counting process.
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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/05/scott-walker-recall-wisconsin-kathy-nickolaus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Motherjones%2Fmojoblog+%28MotherJones.com+%7C+MoJoBlog%29
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)ananda
(28,876 posts)Why aren't WI Dems raising a huge noisy and persistent ruckus to
make this NOT happen ???
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Observers will be watching everyone, unfortunately that will me also watching the creeps from TruththeVote
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)The state party will have the ward numbers before Kathy does.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)Boots on the ground should neutralize the damage..
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)The election observer from the Dem side last time wasn't able to say where the extra votes came from that gave the win to the conservative state supreme court justice.
enough
(13,262 posts)election officials are not at their best after a harrowing 18+ hour day at the polls. That's what I saw going on during that last time that you are referring to.
I say this as a person who has hit that wall as an election worker (way past my rather elderly bedtime) not with any disrespect for the people who do this thankless work.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)bags of unsealed ballots. "I don't know where they came from" is a valid response if you honestly have no idea where they came from. I'm still wondering where those ballots came from. It's not as if someone who is participating in voter fraud is going to say, "Oh, I've just had this bag sitting around in case of a liberal victory."
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)You've been boots on the ground haven't you... rather then wasting your time on line.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)...people with nothing better to do, idle 1 and 0's, "fuck um" we are going to win this.... and Jackson Browne's playin at 5:30 at the labor temple in Mad city on June 5th.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)With the polls that came out these past couple of days, no visit from Obama, now Nickolaus has taken her place, it sure seems like everything is set for a Walker victory on Tuesday night.
davidwparker
(5,397 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)They and the state party have observers at every polling place and attorneys traveling on call.
Herlong
(649 posts)Not just blue haired old ladies who don't know what cranny that old bat pulled the ballots from like last time!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)The woman to which you are trying to refer to was not an observer. Ramona is on the Board of canvass. Her job is to total tapes and certify the numbers.
No ballots or tapes appeared or disappeared. The number Kathy reported TO THE MEDIA excluded an entire municipality. Ramona does not reconcile to those numbers. She is a smart, sharp, kind, wise and dedicated lifelong Democrat.
Herlong
(649 posts)Ramona Kitzinger, member of Waukesha Board of Canvassers, Speaks Up
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965947/-Ramona-Kitzinger-member-of-Waukesha-Board-of-Canvassers-Speaks-Up
Wisconsin Republican County Clerk Claims She Misplaced 7,500 Votes For Justice Prosser, Her Former Boss
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/08/157099/kathy-nickolaus-crook-or-idiot/?mobile=nc
Wisconsin Election Surprise: David Prosser Gains 7,500 Votes After 'Human Error' In Waukesha County (VIDEO
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/david-prosser-wisconsin-supreme-court_n_846431.html
Ramona Kitzinger - Statement
Ramona Kitzinger, the Democratic vice chair of Waukesha County and Waukesha Board of Canvassers member since 2004, stepped forward during Kathy Nickolaus' news conference last Thursday to declare:
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2011/04/ramona-kitzinger-statement.html
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)And I know Ramona, do you?
Herlong
(649 posts)But my problem has never been with her! We need more people like her! My problem is with the nefarious behavior on the other side. We need people looking dead on Kathy Nickolaus before she can steal our votes! I'm sorry if I sound too cynical, but that is what I believe.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Waukesha County is very red but the Democrats here are amazing.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)What an inspiration.. democracy refusing to die, manifesting
through the passion & efforts of everybody there.
Thank you from New Mexico!
We Want Peace
(205 posts)They certainly used her to make Kathy Nickolaus' claims seem true.
Why would they do that? Why did they pretend like she validated the new numbers?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)to the media on election night.
What confused Ramona was that she was not told about the omission to the media until after she certified the numbers. She reconciled the tapes, she does not reconcile to the numbers reported to the media.
Kathy 'did that' cuz she's a fucking idiot.
Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)She's a serial vote manipulator and it's stunning she's not banned for life from vote tabulation!
>>on edit, this was covered in the linked story<<
Snarkoleptic
(6,001 posts)private pc in her office. This pc was not part of the regular office network and was accessible only by she and her minions.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)n/t
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)And I think you're wrong. I wish we had found evidence of fraud, but there was none. There was a lot of sloppiness by her and local clerks, but no evidence of fraud. I wanted there to be so badly.
Also, the application she used was to total tapes. Tapes were still reconciled and certification by board from them, not the totals from her PC.
The GAB has given her new rules since and she has to release ward totals, not county summary. In addition we are now observing at all polling places and the county.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)They just ignored the evidence of fraud and counted the ballots anyway.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)The votes in the suspect bags were counted separately and none weighed more heavily for Prosser than the other bags. None has more ballots than they should have. It's not evidence of fraud, it is evidence of slop.
Nobody ignored anything, it was all entered into evidence and reviewed by statisticians and attorneys.
If you seriously think Waukesha County would EVER lean blue on its best day, you're sorely mistaken.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)wrong numbers?
That is how we validate that the bags are accurate, so if they are wrong...it's not fraud, just slop?
How do we validate bags then when they come in torn overstuffed and with the wrong numbers?
Just trust them?
Trust the ballot bags that were left under Kathy's watchful eye?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)There were not more ballots than there should have been and they all reconciled to tapes. In addition, the numbers were in line with how the votes go here in a Republican stronghold.
I was there, were you?
We Want Peace
(205 posts)They print up the numbers they want....then when there is a recount, they fix the ballots so they will match the numbers they originally wanted. DUH!
How obvious does it have to be for you? I do not feel confident if all our election observers are this naive.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)G'head....
We Want Peace
(205 posts)We Want Peace
(205 posts)I think they are probably manipulating the vote via central tabulator all over the entire state, and everyone is just watching Kathy.
Wisconsin needs to demand independent exit polls June 5.
Exit polls are essential to provide the canary in the coal mine when someone is attempting to steal an election.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)I have been a Poll Worker when they stole the election.
We worked all day and way into the evening . One Nusy Body Lady was taking charge from start to finish.
We were all in shock and tired close to closing.
Something about her manner caused several of us to wonder- "what's with her??" but she was in charge with her official badge!
All day long, people were so excited about the Democratic Candidate _ Wikipedia nailed it----
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004
"November 2, 2004. Republican Party candidate and incumbent President George W. Bush defeated Democratic Party candidate John Kerry, the then-junior U.S. Senator from Massachusetts."
Please Democrats, have detectives and spies working each and every day from Now until Election Day.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)Democrats need to stand up to them, demand a real vote count, verified by a hand recount THAT NIGHT, before Kathy Nickolaus has two weeks with them in her storage room.
goclark
(30,404 posts)Fight Democrats!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)& Rec !!!
librechik
(30,676 posts)They cheat, and officials "can't ban anyone from the building."
I'm amazed a riot didn't break out/ There should have been one, excuse me.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)Everyone needs to ask themselves 'why don't we have exit polls anymore?'
They use to be the canary in the coal mine.
In the 2004 election, exit polls showed exact opposite of election results...so the media determined that exit polls were inaccurate and decided to stop doing them.
It couldn't be that the election results were inaccurate?
And how exactly are we supposed to know now if our election results are even close to how we voted? With diebold central tabulators they can do anything they want to and tell us to eat shit and like it.(and they do)
And watch out, Karl Rove always just happens to be in Waukesha around election time...
librechik
(30,676 posts)everywhere else in the world. We even accept them everywhere else--but here.
Losing the exit polls in Florida is the red flag I chose to begin my "coup started here" timeline.
We haven't been a free democracy since Dec 12, 2000. IMO.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)crunch60
(1,412 posts)uponit7771
(90,363 posts)librechik
(30,676 posts)Clearest evidence yet that there is another entity in charge of Wisconsin, one that doesn't respond to democratic accountability. I hear there is even a restraining order against her but she just ignored it and there is nothing anyone can do. Really? I though restraining orders could be enforced by police officers. Why hasn't that guy just called the cops on her?