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[silvershadow]

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[elleng]

1. Probably not.

Disbarment is the removal of a lawyer from a bar association or the practice of law, thus revoking his or her law license or admission to practice law. Disbarment is usually a punishment for unethical or criminal conduct.

[silvershadow]

4. He's claiming to support more than just the constitution. I don't see how it can be

interpreted any other way.

[elleng]

5. But it's NOT

unethical or criminal conduct, it's STUPID!

[silvershadow]

6. It violates his OATH of office, though. So I suppose he should be removed for that, and

not sure how that would come about.

[elleng]

7. Look at Ocelot's post, for the procedures.

[jberryhill]

20. What is the "it" at the beginning of your sentence

What has he done other than say stupid shit?

A probate judge in Alabama who refuses to issue a license is subject to suit under 42 USC 1983 which will result in an order that they issue the license.

It's not Moore's job to issue licenses. He can say whatever stupid shit he wants, because the consequences will not bear on him.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Besides, Ellen . . .

. . .i don't think one has to be an actively licensed attorney to be a judge. So, even if he was disbarred, it wouldn't remove him from the bench. At least i think that's right.

[elleng]

22. Right

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Could be tricky.

Complaints about Alabama judges are heard by a Court of the Judiciary (disbarment rules are for practicing lawyers, not judges).

The Court of the Judiciary, upon receiving an official complaint from the Judicial Inquiry Commission, will convene to hold a public hearing on the charges filed against a judge and render a decision based on the evidence presented. The Court of the Judiciary is authorized to remove a judge from office, suspend a judge without pay, or censure a judge for violations of their duties. If a judge is found by the court to by physically or mentally incapable of performing the duties of the office, the court may suspend the judge with or without pay or retire the judge.

The nine-member court is composed of an appellate judge, who is selected by the Supreme Court (cannot be a Supreme Court justice); two circuit judges, appointed by the Circuit Judges' Association; a district judge, appointed by the District Judges' Association; two members of the State Bar, appointed by the Board of Bar Commissioners; two non-lawyers, appointed by the governor with senate confirmation; and one person appointed by the lieutenant governor with senate confirmation. This method of removing a judge from office replaces the impeachment method. Decisions of the Court of the Judiciary may be appealed directly to the Supreme Court.

http://judicial.alabama.gov/appl_canons.cfm

It looks like they tried to spread the membership of this court among various people so no group will have too much power, but the Supreme Court gets to appoint one judge (and the Supreme Court also hears appeals from this court), and other judges and lawyers are likely to be influenced by Moore. The fact that the guy still has his job strongly suggests that he has a lot of support among other judges and lawyers. In my state someone like that would be long gone, but this is Alabama.

[jberryhill]

3. What would be the point?

He's not practicing law, so revoking his license doesn't change anything.

There is no requirement that a judge be a lawyer.

[silvershadow]

8. He violated his oath of office. Shouldn't that be grounds for disbarment, your

point noted? And wouldn't violating his oath of office be grounds for removal?

[branford]

9. The remedy for a bad or stupid judge is impeachment or removal

according to appropriate state law and procedures.

Although his actions are extremely aggravating, Moore has not done anything warranting sanction by the state bar, no less disbarment from the practice of law.

[silvershadow]

12. Ok, I see your points. Thank you! nt

[branford]

16. You may also take some comfort

that with respect to federal constitutional issues, including equal protection issues like same sex marriage, the federal judiciary has final authority and can effectively countermand and reverse Moore, as such courts have readily done on multiple prior occasions.

[Archae]

17. Moore already was kicked out of that office, once.

When he refused to get his ugly rock out of the Alabama state court house.
(He broght the damn thing in, literally in the middle of the night.)

Moore refused to follow even the Supreme Court's ruling on his rock, and his fellow justices kicked him out.

He ran again, and used the right code words and got lots of religious reich money.

Moore is in addition to a theocrat, he's a white supremacist.

[branford]

18. All true, but he was still duly elected to his office.

It reminds me about how Marion Barry was reelected as mayor of Washington, D.C. despite his "colorful" criminal history.

Democracy does not always yield the best, brightest or most ethical and diligent office holders. Nevertheless, the alternatives to democracy are far worse.

Hopefully, Moore will push his luck once again, be removed according to the proper legal procedures, and the voters will finally get sick of his antics.

[Archae]

19. This is Alabama.

Where Don Siegelman is in jail for what the GOP does daily, and the state that ignored Loving Vs Virginia for 33 years.

[jberryhill]

10. I'll start this simple...

Is he responsible for issuing marriage licenses?

[Rex]

11. Well the people could aways be forced to put him in office a 3rd time.

I guess if it is good enough to swear on, it is good enough for some judges. Despite what might be in the book.

[Rex]

13. I ask that about certain SCOTUS members sometimes.

Sadly no, the man was voted into office. You get some appointed turds and some elected turds. I have no idea how he knows what God thinks...but I guess judging others all day long makes him feel that special superior you can only feel at God's table.

I think he can be shamed, ridiculed and mocked...seems we got nothing else but for Alabama to realize God does not write the secular laws we follow as a nation.

[silvershadow]

14. Well, then, I'm at least gonna give him a nickname. For my own uses and amusement.

Just offhand, I'd say Asscrack sounds pretty good. I may come up with something better later. LOL

[Rex]

15. Good idea! The fact that he thinks God talks to him about The Gays is comedy gold imo.

That makes him belong to that super stupid group of folks like Glen Beck and Alex Jones with a twist of Pat Robertson for good measure.

I read in another thread the reason he did this was, at the same time of his announcement another announcement that HIS SON was being brought up on drug charges was on the TVEE. You can be guarantied that was not a coincidence.

[KamaAina]

23. Will someone please get him a daytime judge show?

[blackspade]

24. A disgrace to his office.