Susan Sarandon, "I don't vote with my vagina."

[Cary]

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Does this strike anyone else as just plain creepy?

[TSIAS]

1. Not creepy

[oregonjen]

2. Not creepy to me

[TeeYiYi]

3. Is it the word that bothers you?...

Vagina. Vagina. Vagina.

TYY

[Cary]

18. You change the subject too

If you want to start a thread about me, go do it.

[TeeYiYi]

28. Vagina!

Cary (4,562 posts)
8. So why doesn't she talk about issues?

I have no problem with the word vagina. It's a perfectly serviceable word when used in an appropriate context. I don't go around talking about my genitals.

I find it creepy.

TYY

[Cary]

36. Obviously you don't understand my point.

That's ok. You don't have to comprehend anything.

[2pooped2pop]

45. I don't think you comprehend Sarondon's point.

seems pretty simple to me.

[marmar]

4. Uh, no.

Sounds like someone for whom issues are important.

[Cary]

8. So why doesn't she talk about issues?

I have no problem with the word vagina. It's a perfectly serviceable word when used in an appropriate context. I don't go around talking about my genitals.

I find it creepy.

[marmar]

10. Susan Sarandon always talks about issues and engages in plenty of activism.

Just do a Google search.

[Cary]

12. I was referring to the attached image

How did you manage to miss that? It was right there.

[arcane1]

17. It's a quote someone chose for a meme. It's surely not every word she ever spoke about politics.

Someone liked the quote and used it. How on Earth does that become the only thing she's ever said.

That's like me asking you "Why do you talk about Susan Sarandon's vagina so much? It's creepy. Why aren't you talking about issues?" based solely on your posts in this thread.

That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?

[Cary]

20. Right. And whoever put this out wasn't doing it for shock value.

Come on.

[arcane1]

25. You changed the subject. I'm glad I was sitting down for that shock.

[Cary]

34. How did I change the subject?

Sitting down for the shock? Hyperbole much?

[sufrommich]

21. A quote from where? Where is the source of

the quote?

[arcane1]

23. How the hell should I know? I was simply challenging the poster's bullshit.

They want to claim that these two sentences are the only thing Sarandon has ever said about politics. I'm not defending the quote or the source of the image, nor am I expressing agreement.

[Cary]

31. You can't stick to the subject.

[2pooped2pop]

54. what the hell was the subject again?

Sarandon saying that she does not vote for a woman just because she is a woman?

what is it that bothers you if it isn't the word vagina? Would it help if it was changed to pee pee, vajayjay? Choose whatever word you wan't, I'll still be able to get the meaning.

[demmiblue]

32. Here:

at @ 1:25

[sufrommich]

38. Well,that's disappointing. I just lost a lot of

respect for her.

[demmiblue]

57. I'm sorry to hear that.

Democratic/liberal/progressive women have differing opinions and methods, but I think we all have a common goal.

I guess we all take different paths. Hopefully, those paths will meet and connect in a way that will enrich us all.

[sufrommich]

69. "I think we all have a common goal"

I agree.

[countryjake]

39. She was at the “Brooklyn Is Berning” benefit concert on Wednesday...

and spoke briefly to the crowd (it was a two day event this week held at Baby’s All Right, which is a cool nightspot in Brooklyn).

[haikugal]

5. Thank you Susan...neither do I..

[SickOfTheOnePct]

6. Not creepy at all n/t

[KamaAina]

7. Nothing about Susan is creepy!

[sufrommich]

9. I doubt that is an actual quote from her. The "I don't vote

with my vagina" quote is from the DeBlasio campaign.

[seaglass]

11. Not creepy but insulting. I love Susan Sarandon but am disappointed she'd put other

women down by buying into this talking point. Not as smart as I thought she was.

[sufrommich]

14. I doubt she did,as Abe Lincoln would say:

[seaglass]

29. That guy Abe was damn smart and prescient too. :-) n/t

[Glassunion]

37. I thought it was Albert...

[sufrommich]

46. That's a good one. Lol. nt

[Cary]

30. I'll go with insulting

The fact that certain people here are leveraging it for another purpose is certainly insulting. It's obviously crude, by design.

[demmiblue]

40. There sure has been a lot of mansplaining around here lately. Now THAT is insulting. n/t

[2pooped2pop]

58. mansplaining?

now that sounds sexist to me.

[demmiblue]

13. No. Are you offended by The Vagina Monologues, too?

Are you offended by Rep. Lisa Brown's use of the word 'vagina' in a debate on the floor of the Michigan House of Representatives, in which she asked: "And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no.'"

VAGINA! Get over it.

[Cary]

16. I didn't say I was offended.

You like to put words in my mouth. I said I found this to be creepy.

Nor did I say anything about The Vagina Monologues. Can you try to stick to the subject? Or is that too much to ask?

[demmiblue]

19. There is nothing creepy about vaginas. Satisfied? n/t

[Cary]

22. Actually it isn't about vaginas.

[2pooped2pop]

59. then what is creepy?

that she does not vote based on gender? Oooh, that is creepy. lol

[malaise]

15. No n/t

[Brickbat]

24. What's creepy?

[ananda]

26. Not creepy at all.

I'm for Sanders too!

[closeupready]

27. Thank you, Susan Sarandon.

I also vote not with my penis, but with my conscience. K& Effing R!

[Agnosticsherbet]

33. No.

[Rex]

35. That's kewl I don't vote with my dick.

I'd probably get arrested.

[Cary]

42. I'm glad you said it first.

[Rex]

47. I am shocked I am the first to say it!

Usually DU is more on it! Seriously, I doubt I could punch the buttons and training to hold a pencil is just...well probably impossible!

[Cary]

74. I'm not shocked at all

I expected certain people to try to change the subject from my simple opinion to something about me personally.

[Rex]

83. Well that is not fair unless you are Susan Sarandon imo.

Also I've always thought those kind of saying are silly to the nth degree.

[Cary]

103. Silly. Trite. Affected.

I am in favor of crude and vulgar when used properly.

When used ineptly, like Sarandon here, it's just creepy.

[Cal Carpenter]

98. Given your very brief comment in the OP

perhaps people are confused as to what, exactly, your opinion is.

Maybe if you elaborated on what you find 'creepy' about it, we wouldn't have to assume that you are bothered by the use of the word vagina.

You keep accusing people of changing the subject without telling us what the subject is supposed to be. Clearly, many people aren't seeing whatever you think is so obvious. What it looks like to most people opening this thread is that you are bothered by the word vagina.

[Cary]

106. It doesn't matter what I say.

Certain people always swarm me and do this to me.

They are very predictable. I haven't really seen this since 2012 or so. The joke is on them, actually. They just don't know it, yet.

[Cal Carpenter]

110. LOL.

The benefit of the doubt just came and went. You write a vague 'opinion', refuse to elaborate even when asked in good faith, accuse people who are answering your question of changing the subject, and act like a victim of your own OP.

Have fun playing games with people.

What a waste of time.

[Cary]

115. And swarming me and changing the subject to me isn't a waste of time?

What are Bernie's chances? Slim, none, and no.

So you all are accomplishing what with the scorched earth schtick?

Where did that get you with President Obama? You are making the exact same mistakes.

But it's all about me. Always is.

[jonno99]

44. Ha! +1 nt

[Rex]

50. Slow day at the DU, my reply should be around #3 or 4.

Seriously when they say 'get a grip' I would try but holding a pencil would take some real talent! Hey mom look! No hands!

[Cary]

79. Picking up dollar bills

So liberating

[Glassunion]

52. Can I vote with your dick?

Since you're not using it...

[Rex]

55. No that would be vote tampering and probably someone would ask for a run off...

[countryjake]

64. ...

(where are all the punsters when a thread needs them?)

[TeeYiYi]

66. Messy!...

I want to try being a dick and voting with my vagina, but, like voting with your dick, it's a little too messy; what with the run off and all...

TYY

[Rex]

71. 'Sir, would you please put your hanging chad back into it's folder...thank you!"

I'm going to try something radical this time! I am going to try to vote with by balls! However, since it is a duo I will probably get hammered (ouch) with vote tampering.

[TeeYiYi]

72. You could always try using it...

...to ring the door buzzard.

TYY

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. Doesn't strike me as being the slightest bit creepy. She's a woman with an opinion. Bad thing?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. She's making a political, not sexual, statement.

Voting for a woman because she's a woman or voting against a woman because she's a woman is creepy.

[sufrommich]

51. Just out of curiosity,what percentage of democratic women do you

think would switch their vote to Carly Fiorina?

[Cary]

53. I find it creepy that anyone would think I cared about their genitals

Her crudeness is an affectation. I don't find it to be clever or impressive.

Apparently you do. That information may or may not be useful down the road.

[Behind the Aegis]

48. A bit disappointed.

I don't find it creepy, but every time I have heard "I vote with my vagina" it is in reference to voting for someone who is pro-choice, not because of the sex of the candidate.

[Blecht]

49. The stupidity of this original post is only surpassed

by the responses by the original author later in the thread. The only thing that's creepy is what must be going on inside that person's head.

Welcome to my ignore list, Cary!

[NightWatcher]

56. She means women don't have to vote for Hillary just because she's a she.

I guess Susan is sexist to suggest such a thing, because when I say the same, I'm accused of misogyny.

[Cary]

61. I understand her point

Of course it's not original. I don't find it clever. She should state her case and shouldn't need the affect.

[NightWatcher]

63. You asked if it were creepy and said no and attempted to clarify what she was getting at

What do you find creepy about the ad?

[Purveyor]

60. K&R Thanks for posting. eom

[orpupilofnature57]

62. A way of saying Women aren't always the best friend to Women, and Hillary and Bernie are examples of

a man being more a Feminist than a women .

[seaglass]

73. That point was made by her insinuation that women were voting with their vaginas. A friend of

women wouldn't say that.

I would totally expect Susan to support Bernie (not sure about her ex anymore though) but I don't understand the need to put others down for different choices.

[Cary]

112. Just another inept attempt to manipulate with crudeness and vulgarity

Frank Zappa could pull it off. George Carlin. Sarah Silverman.

[Glassunion]

65. Interesting...

[madokie]

67. Not one bit

In fact I think its awesome that she would go there and say that.

As best from what my wife says she'll be voting for Bernie too.

We don't talk to each other about politics as neither of us want the other one to think that what we're doing is because of what the other one wants us to do. From some of the of the things I've heard her say I'd say she feels the bern

ETA: I had to look to make sure but my guess was I was replying to a Hillary supporter and sure 'nuf it looks to be right.

That explains the creepy part added at the end there

[TeeYiYi]

89. Vaginas ARE creepy...

...amirite? And, if that's not creepy enough, you 'oughta' try voting with one. Holding a pencil, and/or pushing buttons and pulling the lever is next to impossible in a timely fashion; and in polite society.

Oh, oops... I might have been thinking about slots, Keno and my last trip to Vegas and the bingo parlor.

TYY

[madokie]

96. I used to know this girl

Oh never mind

[TeeYiYi]

108. I think I knew the same girl...

...Something about a lotion bottle and a ping pong ball? ...and voting, of course!

TYY

[madokie]

111. Small world, huh

[TeeYiYi]

113. !...

TYY

[SoCalDem]

68. Expecting women to automatically align with a female candidate

is just as creepy as the way republicans thought that Sarah Palin was a "lady" so she would equal Hillary especially since she was a "cuter" lady

Policy matters more than gender..

[Warpy]

70. No. It was true in 2008 when Republicans thought all women would vote for them

because Palin was on the ticket. It's true now when the female candidate is too conservative for many of us.

After all, do men vote only with their dicks?

[beam me up scottie]

75. Not at all, why would it be creepy? Because she used the V-word and it makes you squirmy?

I don't vote with my vagina either, I vote with my brain. Susan isn't alone, I've been accused of being a lesser feminist because I don't support the woman in the race.

Bernie is a better candidate, it has nothing to do with gender.

But now that Susan has endorsed Bernie it's UNDER THE BUS!!!

[Vinca]

76. I'm glad she put that out.

There was a young woman - a soccer player who supports Hillary - on MSNBC today who made a remark about some women thinking only men should be in charge and, apparently, that's why women should vote for Hillary. I did a double take. Maybe GOP women have that opinion about men being in charge, but I doubt you'll find many Democratic women with that opinion. I'm with Susan Sarandon on this one. Go Bernie. It's the issues that matter, not the gender.

[Cary]

77. Being vulgar and crude about voting for a man instead of a woman is liberating

That's deep.

[Vinca]

78. Uh oh. Tender flower alert.

[H2O Man]

81. You said "tender."

That was creepy. Even darned extra-creepy. Thus, my level of hypochondria has risen drastically. I'll need to increase my intake of placebos in order to heal.

[Cary]

82. It's funny how whenever I post something here people swarm and change the subject

It's always about me.

Why is that? Me me me it's always about me.

Can't you discuss a subject without changing it? Like I said above if you want to make a thread about me go make your own thread.

[marmar]

84. Umm, you asked if it was creepy, the vast majority of people said no. Quod erat demonstrandum.

What exactly is it that you're looking for?

[Cary]

86. No is a fine answer.

What are you whining about?

[marmar]

88. I'm whining? .... Hoo boy.

[Cary]

92. You are.

[marmar]

97. Umm, okay.

Sorry you didn't get the response you expected.

[Cary]

109. Ha!

For about the 5th time this is exactly what I expected.

[juxtaposed]

80. nor would I if I had one, unless my V said that's it, vote this way or I'm leaving..

[Cary]

85. Best post award.

Humor, purpose.

Nice job.

[Brickbat]

87. To sum up:

Cary thinks this is gross, crude and sad. Cary thinks it's gross, crude and sad that you don't feel the same way. Poor Cary. The end.

[Cary]

90. You forgot the part about how it's all about me

You're too easy.

[Brickbat]

91. You're the one making it about you, kid.

[marmar]

93. Yet somehow everyone else is whining and making it personal, per the OP.

[Brickbat]

94. I wish I hadn't opened this thread without pouring myself a drink first.

[marmar]

99. LOL. Tell me about it. Now I need an aspirin.

[beam me up scottie]

100. Cary's threads have that effect.

We're all abusive whining sociopaths.

[Cary]

107. But you did.

As I expected.

Go get drunk. That explains a lot.

[Cary]

95. Yes the personal abuse I get is all my fault

Look up the word "gaslighting." It's a common tactic used by sociopaths.

[Brickbat]

102. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027511874#post98

[saturnsring]

101. you dont think she votes with her actual vagina do you?

[sadoldgirl]

104. Well, when one candidate cannot stop

to point out gender, then Susan's answer makes
total sense.

[leftofcool]

105. Susan trying to be relevant.

[Autumn]

114. Not at all, I don't vote with my vagina. Do you men vote with your penises?

It's just insulting and creepy to think a woman would vote for a candidate because she's a woman as it would be to think men vote for a male candidate because he has a penis.

[Nye Bevan]

116. Locking thread.

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