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BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:00 AM Jan 2016

MSNBC FINALLY ADMITS IT ISN'T GIVING BERNIE SANDERS ENOUGH COVERAGE

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I was just watching "Morning Joe" and their conversation was about the new polls coming in. Suddenly, Mika interjects and stands up for Bernie. I played it back and took dictation directly from my VCR:

Mika Brzezinskia:
"For 15 minutes we've been talking about Hillary. Can somebody here at the table talk about Bernie Sanders? Can you talk about what he brings to the table and perhaps we have not really given him the coverage, the deference and, quite frankly, and we've underestimated him every step of the way. This guy has been out in Iowa, this guy has been out in New Hampshire. He's been crisscrossing the country tirelessly backing his movement, backing his message."

Eugene Robinson:
"I think Bernie Sanders has been undercovered and, mea culpa. I haven't covered him enough. This has been a year where the establishment lane is going nowhere. It seems to be going nowhere. This is the year where people are looking for that famous word, "authenticity," but they are also looking for new ideas, new approaches. And so here comes Bernie Sanders who is an incredible un-politician. He's different. He's new even though he's been around for a long time. For a lot of voters, he's new. Hillary Clinton, a lot of people don't remember her as First Lady at all. They remember her, perhaps, as senator from New York and as Secretary of State. So they don't have the references we may have. But, Bernie Sanders, this is remarkable what he's done. It really is."

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MSNBC FINALLY ADMITS IT ISN'T GIVING BERNIE SANDERS ENOUGH COVERAGE (Original Post) BigBearJohn Jan 2016 OP
I heard that and started talking out loud to the television set.: "You go, Mika." Vinca Jan 2016 #1
There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear... tularetom Jan 2016 #2
hubby supports hillary and I support bernie but we don't talk about the campaign just now... CTyankee Jan 2016 #11
I Remember That Song!!! We Had Upheaval, But ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #21
Despicable that it's taken this long deutsey Jan 2016 #3
There's an old saying be careful what you wish for bigdarryl Jan 2016 #4
no spotlight mikehiggins Jan 2016 #5
You are exacyly right. INdemo Jan 2016 #32
It is about time! marew Jan 2016 #6
I agree. Any sensitive person can just listen to Bernie and know he's the real deal. He's true blue BigBearJohn Jan 2016 #8
Chris Matthews? left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #9
his wife is running for congress and supports hillary restorefreedom Jan 2016 #15
I didn't know that. Nyan Jan 2016 #25
agree completely. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #28
why is Joe's mouth so constipated on Bernie (except to call him a socialist at every turn)? CTyankee Jan 2016 #7
Remember left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #10
yep. this is very bad news for him. he's been yammering about Trump for so long CTyankee Jan 2016 #12
Not just Young liberalmike27 Jan 2016 #31
rove, carlson, and krautheimer are practically tripping over themselves restorefreedom Jan 2016 #30
Interesting! Thom Hartmann played a clip from Morning Troll... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2016 #13
Bu, bu, but, every Republican was covered. Just not an extra Democrat or two11!!!111 Festivito Jan 2016 #14
Mika, save your fucking "deference" for Republicans. Orsino Jan 2016 #16
Eugene is correct - "Establishment lane is going nowhere". GO BERNIE! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #17
they've decided they need to call him a socialist more often certainot Jan 2016 #18
Oh yeah, you just KNOW they are going to do that now. closeupready Jan 2016 #23
Preemptive whining ... LannyDeVaney Jan 2016 #27
George Stephanapolis has actually refered to Bernie as INdemo Jan 2016 #34
Good for Mika. We need more people like her. SmittynMo Jan 2016 #19
I listen to Eugene. He is soft spoken but right on target. He once go on Mika because CTyankee Jan 2016 #24
The Tyndall Report. It is objective and undeniable. It makes a strong case for collusion. merrily Jan 2016 #20
wasn't it amazing what happened on MSNBC? I also watched that circus. Oh, man... CTyankee Jan 2016 #26
K & R! SoapBox Jan 2016 #22
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #29
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Jan 2016 #33
Locking... one_voice Jan 2016 #35

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
1. I heard that and started talking out loud to the television set.: "You go, Mika."
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jan 2016

It was astonishing. I had been waiting to hear the huge news about the Democratic race they were promising and after they gave it - a major accomplishment for Bernie - they started talking about Hillary and what's happened to her campaign and what's she's going to do, yada, yada, yada. Not a peep about Bernie. Good for Mika.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jan 2016

Everybody in the world could see that Sanders message was catching on, and that Hillary Clinton was running a sloppy, poorly managed campaign, and launching personal attacks as the whole thing started to unravel.

Everybody but these clueless fools.

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
11. hubby supports hillary and I support bernie but we don't talk about the campaign just now...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jan 2016

I think he's worried for her and so is silently glum...

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
21. I Remember That Song!!! We Had Upheaval, But
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jan 2016

there was so much more fairness. A LOT LESS $$$$$$$$$!

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
3. Despicable that it's taken this long
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jan 2016

We get never-ending coverage of Trump whenever he farts (or gives a speech, it's hard to tell the difference), but Sanders barely gets mentioned unless it's a smear.

Damn you, liberal media!

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
4. There's an old saying be careful what you wish for
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jan 2016

Now that Sanders is officially the front runner in the first two states he is going to have the spot light and scrutiny.Let's see how he handles it.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
5. no spotlight
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jan 2016

I can see these bozos cutting away from Bernie's inauguration to cover...just about anything else. One of the sideeffects (perhaps collateral damage might be a better description) may be to break up the monopoly a handful of people have over what we laughingly call the media.

That's like calling a whore a public service.

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
32. You are exacyly right.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jan 2016

I think he has a terrific campaign team which was very obvious yesterday by their quick response to Hillary's and Chelsea's lies.
The thing about Bernie is there is nothing there that Republicans can or try to "swift" boat him with.
So far its been the Hillary that has tried this strategy and obviously with the Sander's campaign response and with the media calling Hillary out on the healthcare lie its obvious not going to work.

marew

(1,588 posts)
6. It is about time!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jan 2016

The way Chris Matthews has been fawning over Hillary Clinton makes me want to vomit! Sorry for the graphic description but it is true! Last night his show bordered on obscene! He has been giving her so much time. Hillary, Chris, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz can go jump in the lake (just being nice here!) as far as I'm concerned. Schultz has been very calculated- as has Chris Matthews- in their blind support of Hillary. Disgusting! Schultz needs to go. I have no respect for her at all!
You should know that I am not a young progressive. I am a very old, a 69 year old progressive, always have been a progressive. I am comfortably retired, have been since my mid 50's because of what my father taught me about life. I worked very hard yet I know so many who have worked at least as hard as I ever did who still struggle every day. (Still do volunteer work two days a week and have six rescue critters- four of which are handicapped.)
For those of you who may claim I do not know what I am talking about, I am a retired graduate level social worker. I visited and talked for decades to the poorest among us who feel hopeless. You know, those the the GOP labels as "takers". All the majority of these people want is a hand up, not a hand out, at least until they succumb to what is called "learned helplessness." Sometimes the struggle simply becomes too difficult.
I remember one woman I visited. She said as I was leaving, " This is a bad neighborhood. I will walk you to your car." No one should have to live like that, no one.
We truly have become an oligarchy. We close our eyes to the suffering right here in our country. I am so not impressed by Hillary's platitudes. She does not get it nor does she really want to get it.
The only candidate who espouses what I firmly believe is Bernie. All other candidates will continue the same- even Hillary. I absolutely believe that!

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
8. I agree. Any sensitive person can just listen to Bernie and know he's the real deal. He's true blue
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. Chris Matthews?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jan 2016

Maybe he wants to be HRC's Press Secretary?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
15. his wife is running for congress and supports hillary
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jan 2016

he has his orders

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
25. I didn't know that.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

But really. This is a systemic problem.

Clinton campaign hires what, the daughter of Jorge Ramos, the big-shot journalist, so they have vested interests in her nomination. They hire Planned Parenthood chief's daughter and bring them into the circle so they're tied together in their mutually-assured success in their political career. And media people (and their families) run for office, expecting favors from the Clintons.

This is so rampant, and it should be unacceptable that power is so concentrated to a small circle of people connected by nepotism, and self-serving careerism. The problem in Washington is not just the revolving-door double-dipping pension deal they got going on between financial-corporate sector and the government. You see it in the media.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
28. agree completely.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

the bed is too big and too many people in it.

time for some true democracy.

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
7. why is Joe's mouth so constipated on Bernie (except to call him a socialist at every turn)?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

Joe can't admit that there is a movement of the young and not so young in this country that is sick of the BS coming out of most politician's mouths. It looks like MIka couldn't stand the BS any more. She was excited and animated. Joe just sat there, looking glum.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. Remember
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jan 2016

Joe Scarborough is a Republican

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
12. yep. this is very bad news for him. he's been yammering about Trump for so long
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jan 2016

he hasn't been paying attention.

my take is that there is a core of haters of the poor that just relish trump's style which they call "tell it like it is." Well, bernie is the one telling it like it is and joe doesn't want to hear it...

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
31. Not just Young
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jan 2016

There is this media meme about how "Bernie is attracting young people all over the country." Read: rookie, inexperienced, not familiar with the ways of the world, in "young."

Did a facebook poll on the age of Sanders supporters and there were mostly people from 50-70 in it. It's way more familiar to us, as we grew up to varying degrees, in a more Socialist system. Most people under 45 have only seen Reagan, and Republicans, and some disgusting Neo-Democrats, trying to roll back various Socialist programs. They're still trying to get rid of a minimum wage, and social security.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
30. rove, carlson, and krautheimer are practically tripping over themselves
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jan 2016

to point out how bernie can not POSSIBLY be the nom. they see the polls. they know a repub has zero chance of beating bernie in a general and will romp to the wh if its hillary. they desperately need the nom to be hillary, so they are taking the clicking heels dorothy approach.

and yes, i check fox sometimes to see what the other side is up to. very imformative.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
13. Interesting! Thom Hartmann played a clip from Morning Troll...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jan 2016

...yesterday. Mika (who I don't like), on two occasions in about a 2 minutes mouse-like tried to interject Bernie in the conversation. They talked right over her until the establishment Dem Harold Ford smacked Mika down dismissing Bernie as a socialist and the conversation continued to break. Sounds like Mika took umbrage to the way yesterday proceeded.


Festivito

(13,890 posts)
14. Bu, bu, but, every Republican was covered. Just not an extra Democrat or two11!!!111
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jan 2016

Must be that left wing media!!11!111!!

Oh!

Shit!

Guess it's not.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. Mika, save your fucking "deference" for Republicans.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

If you want to learn journalism, though, you could start with intelligent coverage of Sanders OR Clinton.

Or, hell, even of some Republicans.

God damn your "deference."

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
17. Eugene is correct - "Establishment lane is going nowhere". GO BERNIE!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jan 2016
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
18. they've decided they need to call him a socialist more often
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jan 2016
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
23. Oh yeah, you just KNOW they are going to do that now.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

Over and over and over.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
27. Preemptive whining ...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

Already whining and complaining about something that hasn't happened.

Geez.

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
34. George Stephanapolis has actually refered to Bernie as
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016
"Communist,Socialist,Democratic Socialist whatever"

(for the Hillary fans that aren't reading this (*I can get the transcripts to prove it if you'd like)

But then we also have to keep in mind that George has given a substantial amount to her PAC and well as personal limit contributions to Hillary's campaign.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
19. Good for Mika. We need more people like her.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jan 2016

You knew someone was going to say the obvious, sooner or later.

The issue here is that is sounds like it stopped after Eugene talked. And more or less all he could say was his last sentence. "But, Bernie Sanders, this is remarkable what he's done. It really is." The rest was fluff. And why didn't they expand on this closing statement. It was the perfect scenario to do so.

Hey, it don't really matter. The fact is people(journalist) are starting to talk about him. The cat is out of the bag.

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
24. I listen to Eugene. He is soft spoken but right on target. He once go on Mika because
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

he could no longer listen to her "on the one hand this, on the other hand that" routine and he just laid it out straight. His words really got to her. This was on race during the 2008 primaries. He told her straight out that she should be less deferential to racists and racist remarks being made, references to Obama that were flatly racist. She was stunned and hurt and felt real remorse. She obviously respects him greatly and she should. I love Eugene...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. The Tyndall Report. It is objective and undeniable. It makes a strong case for collusion.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

They're scared.

I don't believe that was unscripted and unspontaneous. Besides which, every time they mention Bernie, they end with "but Hillary will get the nomination."

MSNBC lost me when fired Olberman and took Cenk's show away from him. By the time they gave Ed Schultz the boot, I had forgotten where I'd buried the body.

CTyankee

(68,202 posts)
26. wasn't it amazing what happened on MSNBC? I also watched that circus. Oh, man...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

it was very telling, wasn't it?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
22. K & R!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

Thanks for this...I would never be able to listen to the show without having a meltdown...thank goodness it's on way earlier than when I'm even awake.

Go Bernie!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jan 2016

Faux pas

(16,357 posts)
33. Kickin' with gusto!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
35. Locking...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

Doesn't meet SoP for GD.

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