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Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:19 PM Jan 2016

Oregon standoff

Does anyone know why the fuck they are allowing in supplies to these criminals? They went in there saying they would stay there a year if necessary, but they brought no fucking supplies! What a bunch of idiots!! The point is if we don't allow supplies in (as any military mind would know) they will sooner or later leave and surrender peacefully. Whats going on and who do we contact to complain? Or start a petition?

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Oregon standoff (Original Post) Pharaoh Jan 2016 OP
This is insane. And now they've removed fencing... PearliePoo2 Jan 2016 #1
there appears to be no plan for these guys Takket Jan 2016 #2
Oh, calm down abit There are children in there, Hortensis Jan 2016 #3
Only a few of them 2naSalit Jan 2016 #6
That sounds very probably true. Hortensis Jan 2016 #9
Who's talking about firebombing them? Pharaoh Jan 2016 #8
What I'm suggesting is that they're not our problem at all. Hortensis Jan 2016 #10
Appears this whole thing was on Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #4
Beware... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #7
Perhaps... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #5

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
1. This is insane. And now they've removed fencing...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jan 2016

...so the neighboring rancher's cattle can get into the preserve and graze.
This pisses me off to no end.
The FBI must have a plan. What is it?
fuck this.


Takket

(21,550 posts)
2. there appears to be no plan for these guys
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jan 2016

The government has allowed them not just control of the facility, but freedom to come and go as they please and also to terrorize citizens of the town.

If we could just talk a black kid with a toy gun into joining the movement, the Feds would swoop in and end this within minutes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Oh, calm down abit There are children in there,
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jan 2016

you know. Are you old enough to remember the Philadelphia row house standoff? There was no particular danger of violence from the fringies inside, but the government finally set the house on fire and burned, what, 4 children?, to death because press coverage of the standoff was getting embarrassing for them.

So far all this group has accomplished has been to be revealed for the nincompoops they are. Not only have they shown any real inclination to do more than brandish guns for the cameras, having proven their profound ignorance (i.e., made their point as they see it) they're trying to "negotiate" an end so they can get out of there. Some have business at home they need to get back to, and since the feds have been so disobliging as to not take them seriously enough to end it, they now have to worry about how to do it themselves. Just being handcuffed and taken away in front of cameras apparently isn't how they'd prefer to go.

Personally, I think we should bill these terminal ignoramuses for the cost of 12 years of public education, in addition to the costs they've run up here.

I strongly suspect requiring them to spend the next few decades paying for this fun, starting while serving sentences, of course, would be a far stronger deterrent to future nitwit acting out than killing a few of these guys.

Who knows, that stomach-clenching specter might even encourage some to READ the Constitution before deciding on an appropriate look for their "revolutionary" clothes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. That sounds very probably true.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

Are you in education, btw?

I was reading the property clause in the Constitution because of this, and it's only one rather long (of course) sentence. I read somewhere, though, that people who avoid reading tend to lose about 5 years or so of reading comprehension within a few years of leaving school. So if these guys are as averse to written sources of information as they seem, that would suggest reading around the level of a not-especially-bright 13-year-old.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
8. Who's talking about firebombing them?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

What a bunch of morons. But nobody is talking about firebombing them or anything else. Just cut of their supply lines. It's the sensible thing to do. They are manly men after all, they have guns, they could shoot deer if they want to eat. It's not our problem that they are idiots!

BTW

Heres and article with phone # and email to the reporter, I already emailed him. If anyone would like to call or email for some answers.


-- Fedor Zarkhin

fzarkhin@oregonian.com

503-294-7674; @fedorzarkhin


http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/sheriff_managing_oregon_stando.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. What I'm suggesting is that they're not our problem at all.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

And, no, I won't be joining the circus, but thanks.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Appears this whole thing was on
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

the local Sheriff's plate since October. After reading a story in Vegas Paper today,Payne and Bundy has this planned for months. Even met with the Locals months ago. And as many have said,what gives,if these turds were African American or Hispanic,they would have been squashed like a bug. Notice also the stories popping up about how the Rethugican Party has been and is fomenting a revolutionary environment by supporting militia groups with a wink and a nod.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
5. Perhaps...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jan 2016

this is one way to let everybody see what will happen if the RW brainchildren end up in control. If they do, we can kiss all of our national parks, national forests and wilderness areas to be dredged up in the name of the almighty dollar for the monied cabal. And we can kiss our individual rights adieu along with all of the social safety net... unless it's welfare for ranching, timber and mining interests and other megacorp income devices that function at our expense.

Look out feudalism, here we come careening into the biospheric trophic crash.

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