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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:49 AM Jan 2016

Why don't feds try to oust Oregon occupiers?

Eleven days into an armed occupation of a federal bird sanctuary in eastern Oregon, the militants remain, gathering wood to keep warm as they continue to demand the government turn over public land in Harney County to local control.

They've rebuffed the sheriff's offer to escort them home. They've covered up the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge signs with their own. And on Monday, they ripped out part of a fence on the refuge's property that bordered a ranch where cattle graze.

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"The group out there is a little bit like Donald Trump," said Van Zandt, a former negotiator and supervisor in the bureau's Behavioral Science Unit during his 25-year career with the agency. "They do things for attention. They do things so the media pays attention."

Yet the protesters have the right to express themselves and air their grievances.

"They're exercising their First Amendment rights,'' Coulson said. "If they want to make a statement, let them. Let them have a forum.''

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/why_dont_feds_try_to_oust_oreg.html#incart_gallery

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icymist

(15,888 posts)
2. So let us get this straight:
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jan 2016

Not exercising their First Amendment rights:


Exercising their First Amendment rights:

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. They have the right to trespass, loot, vandalize and steal government property?
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jan 2016

Wow that is really pathetic. I've lost a lot of respect for this country. It seems white supremacy is okay in 2016 America.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
6. Last week I remember someone hinting that the feds are in sympathy with these people.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jan 2016

After reading this article I beginning to believe it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. I remember seeing that too and kinda scoffing
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

about it being true. I believe it now, nothing else really fits the bill imo.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. For one thing, they're hiding behind their wives and children. You know, like cowards do.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jan 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

icymist

(15,888 posts)
10. They learned that at the Bundy ranch in Nevada:
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jan 2016

At Bundy Ranch, the presence of children prevented the feds from using tear gas


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3ChicsPolitico ?@3ChicsPolitico Jan 3
@jjmacnab It didn't stop police from using tear gas on little black children in #Ferguson


https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/683755633837932544

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
12. I donno, the longer these mentally challenged gun humpers hang out there
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jan 2016

in spite of the town's people asking them to leave and in spite of most other militia groups distancing themselves this may be the right way to go.

They are looking more and more pathetic by the day. If they figure out that this just makes them look soooooo sad and deplorable perhaps it will have the desired effect.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
13. They're mis-understanding Trump and the Bundy Gang in the same way.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

Trump and the Bundy-ites may both be laughable in various ways, but they're also utterly serious about what they're doing. Losing sight of that would be a big fucking mistake.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
14. Because they WANT the feds to bust them.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

Plain and simple....and I bet many if not all are ok if Fed agents are forced to fire upon them and killing a few (because in their convoluted minds...old Bob there well take the bullet and not me).

Then play the victim role. There is a reason why they are trying to do this in an election year as well.

But the more time they sit there, the angrier they will get with each other and the stupider they look to the rest of the country. Best to continue sending them dicks, dildo's, gay porn, Korans, etc. to piss them off even more and let them become disenfranchised to eventually they leave on their own.

They OBVIOUSLY thought the Feds would have moved in on them by now...but the fact that they are asking for supplies says they didn't expect this.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
15. Why aren't the media pressing the federal government on their plan of action?
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jan 2016

When it was occupy wall street and protests in Baltimore and Ferguson protests we got constant pushes for updates on what the authorities were doing...

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