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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. True dat. Damn I hate it when that happens. both Frank and Dean
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jan 2016

Now Barney's with the Banks and Deans a health Ins/big pharma lobbyist ...

I always took them both to be incorruptible progressives. it really sucks

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
7. Are you saying that EVERYONE, not just Clinton & Dean, will abandon their liberal principles?
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

Interesting.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. Nope...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jan 2016

I'm saying everyone on Bernie's side will abandon everyone they once liked if that person doesn't whole-heartedly endorse Bernie and swear allegiance until his or her dying breath

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
9. I see. Well, I used to be a big fan of Howard Dean. In 2002 or so, I heard him on the radio.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jan 2016

I thought to myself, I don't know who this guy is, but I like him. So I was a big Howard Dean supporter. I hated seeing what they did to him with a shotgun microphone and a bunch of jackal talking heads. So yeah, I was a Dean fan. And I don't hate the man now, but I certainly disagree with his about-face on single payer, and I have real questions about his current employment. Everyone has a different story; you just got mine.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
11. I disagree, too, but people are writing him of completely over this...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016

He knew how to run the DNC and I wish he were back at it!

DFW

(54,397 posts)
12. Not me
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jan 2016

I remain friends with both Howard and his brother, Jim. Howard is off to HK this week, so I won't see him this trip, but I just had lunch with Jim last Saturday. Jim supports Bernie, and had all sorts of cool stories.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Apparently he can be easily bought.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

I respected him a great deal once.

No more. "Just grab the money and shill" seems to be his motto. Barf.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. He won my ire back when he was chair due to his anti marriage equality misinformation and his smug
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jan 2016

attitude to being called out on it.

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