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GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:20 PM Jan 2016

Fresh out of HS in '66 with a fresh ticket to Vietnam (pic)

My family isn't exactly able to afford college, so it was highschool -> Vietnam for my dad. We found this picture in an old box the other day... my dad before he shipped out. So many young kids were sent, but sometimes a single picture from a crappy 60's camera can hit home better than a zoomed out group picture

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Fresh out of HS in '66 with a fresh ticket to Vietnam (pic) (Original Post) GummyBearz Jan 2016 OP
k and r...that picture sure does say a lot.. Stuart G Jan 2016 #1
Corpsman? snpsmom Jan 2016 #2
Yes GummyBearz Jan 2016 #4
My Cousin was a Marine, went over about the same time elmac Jan 2016 #7
And he is not talkng about it to protect you and himself nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #14
My dad was in the Korean War... Blanks Jan 2016 #23
Nope nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #24
Hope your dad made it back safely. That was a tough time for a lot of Americans. Hoyt Jan 2016 #3
powerful ! And, if you want your heart to break into 53k pieces Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2016 #5
Yep, I've been there GummyBearz Jan 2016 #29
You are so right, this picture brings back the enough Jan 2016 #6
Thank you for posting. SoapBox Jan 2016 #8
Very poignant picture. GGJohn Jan 2016 #9
My cousin went.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #10
It was '67, 2yrs college --->VN for me. Oh but the recruiter treated me as HS. n/t UTUSN Jan 2016 #11
It was 66 for me, GGJohn Jan 2016 #13
All I got was this stoopid T-shirt!1 UTUSN Jan 2016 #22
We went to a county commissioner's meeting....... Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2016 #12
I know exactly what you mean GummyBearz Jan 2016 #15
Here is a funny story that we share nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #18
My Brother in Law Never Returned McKim Jan 2016 #16
This is a very powerful photo. montana_hazeleyes Jan 2016 #17
It is strange for me, to think that when the photo was taken, it could easily be the last one GummyBearz Jan 2016 #19
Looks like the manual for that new Canon Demi Camera RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #25
Your dad and I are the same age. SheilaT Jan 2016 #20
My thanks to him for his service. forest444 Jan 2016 #21
Great picture! cwydro Jan 2016 #26
Beautiful...poignant picture! Thank you for sharing! Docreed2003 Jan 2016 #27
That's a great pic pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #28
 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
4. Yes
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:30 PM
Jan 2016

He was a corpsman attached to a marine unit. He doesn't talk much about it, but the way I pieced it together over the years sounds like he got to spend part of his time on his ship and part of the time he was at some forward base going with the patrols

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. My Cousin was a Marine, went over about the same time
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:46 AM
Jan 2016

Never talked about it until I asked him about it 2 years ago. He told me some of what went on but still has a hard time talking about it. Another cousin left as a corpsman but didn't come back. The last time I seen him was at his wedding before he shipped out. A sad time for many in the country.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. And he is not talkng about it to protect you and himself
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:11 AM
Jan 2016

My dad finally opened about some of what he did in WW II in the resistance mind you, after he realized my husband had seen combat and I have been shot at as a medic in Mexico (The war on drugs, what do you want to know? As mild as it was for us, still getting shot by high powered weapons is not exactly all that is cracked to be in the movies) As my husband and I talk about it. because we do tell our war stories, and his are far worst... people mostly do not want the details. Sometimes they are too much.

My dad opened up to both of us a couple years before he died. Me personally six months before he died. And what he told me, he was clear on it (and correct) the rest of the family would not accept it. I spoke of a couple details and they still deny it. Hell that is common.

So ask, he might somebody open to you. No guarantees. If he does, I also guarantee a few nightmares, for your dad, and maybe you.

Corpsmen (and women these days) get my full respect. Mostly where you go and what you see...

And I guess that is why the piece of fiction I am working on is not, I repeat this, is not a happy go lucky American story. My characters have been broken ten ways to Sunday.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
23. My dad was in the Korean War...
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jan 2016

He didn't like to talk about it. To him war was a 24 hour a day loud ordeal. He died when I was a teenager, so I never got to ask him about it after I did my time in the army.

I served during peace time as a carpenter in a maintenance company in Germany, so I don't have any horror stories (waking up in the middle of the night for an alert doesn't exactly qualify).

We used to ask my dad about it, and the noise was all he'd say. I'm guessing that he was in the artillery. He and his two brothers joined up and all 3 came back alive, but none of them lived til they were 45.

I've never met anyone who has been to combat that looked back on it fondly.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. Nope
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jan 2016

Hubby is a retired submariner. How he ended up on the wrong side of a fire fight, we'll never again volunteer yourself (navy). He learned that the day he retired.

He still gets nightmares. I do too. And my experiences were mild. Though a certain line from Heartbreak Bridge about AKs making a particular sound is true. So is the star pattern when it fired at you at night

We are rare birds. We do talk.

We watched the movie traffic in Hawaii. There ladies in front kept yammering as to how that movie was unrealistic. I had it three thirds in, interrupted their yammering and pointed out that some of the things in the movie were changed because the truth was actually weirder than the slightly changed events. Oh they shut up after that.

But that is why my dad opened up. He realize we would not doubt it, or be shocked. We knew how bad it could get

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. powerful ! And, if you want your heart to break into 53k pieces
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jan 2016

go to the Vietnam wall in DC

I assume he came back and survived it all ok.

What a great son you are - to recognize - and to care !

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
29. Yep, I've been there
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jan 2016

I copied a few names off it for my dad using a crayon and paper. He's never been, I don't think you could pay him to go to DC. Something about that experience left him a bit pissed off with politicians

enough

(13,259 posts)
6. You are so right, this picture brings back the
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jan 2016

reality of that time, when every single young person had to confront what was going on. Yes lots of people had ways to get deferred, some people eventually got good lottery draft numbers, but everybody even women (who were not drafted) had to take the fact of the war into account in their lives.

Hope that young man, your father, is well.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. My cousin went....
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jan 2016

My grandfather was a WWII European Theater Vet. He talked my uncle into sending his boy off after High School to "make him a man".

My uncle never forgave my grandfather for the loss of his son.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
22. All I got was this stoopid T-shirt!1
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

You got a *SCHOOL*?!1 Well, it was a school for a dangerous job, but still a school. I went in E1 with two years of college. Anyway. When I say, "You got a *SCHOOL*?!1" it's like an Army guy said to me at the VFW when I mentioned that we griped when we ran out of milk every month and had to settle for KoolAid -- First he said, "You had *MILK*?!1" and then followed up with, "You had *KOOLAID*?!1" Well, my LST was in the river, not Blue Water (alone).

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
12. We went to a county commissioner's meeting.......
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jan 2016

yesterday to oppose a retired cop from officially setting up a militia training camp in our rural area. He's been operating it under the radar but with all the gunshots frequently heard, neighbors got together and turned him into the county. He is trying to get a permit to continue operations. Three gentlemen who live in the area got up to speak against it because of their Viet Nam experience. All were foot soldiers and said they hit the deck while on their own property because it's a conditioned response to gunfire. We all moved here for the peace and tranquility and to live quiet lives. It broke my heart to hear these brave men admit their lives can be so deeply affected by an inconsiderate neighbor. I just hope the county sees it that way too.

Glad your dad made it home.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
15. I know exactly what you mean
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jan 2016

I was probably around 10 years old and a jet broke the sound barrier near by one weekend, the sonic boom made my dad and 2 of his vet friends start sweating profusely. They had to go outside in the alley to get fresh air and calm down. To break the tension one of them said "Look at us. A bunch of dummies searching for charlie in california". I didn't quite get it until years later.

Also along these lines, 4th of July is has always been hell on earth for my dad

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. Here is a funny story that we share
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jan 2016

we came back from Hawaii, after hubby retired. We forgot Sea World has fire works during the summer. First loud boom, we are in the kitchen, I am flat on my belly, looking for cover, hubby is down, his hand searching for a non existent side arm head on a swivel looking for that ever loving present threat.

We looked at each other and started to laugh. Yeah, we still live in the same place. Sea World is tolerable. The 4th of July is not a popular thing here either, for the same reason. Oh and when I went to Disneyland with the nieces and they wanted to stay for the fire works... I could not quite explain to the kids why I was a tad jumpy. They were as young as you were. Oh to this day, they have no idea and don't remember that much... bless their hearts.

We have a few other stories in that vein, and I hope none of the young people I know are ever able to react that way... but when you go cover a shooting, it has it's advantages...

McKim

(2,412 posts)
16. My Brother in Law Never Returned
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jan 2016

We lost my brother in law in that war. It had been a tragedy for our family. We have been active in the Peace and Justice Movement forever after. I want all our military home from everywhere. I feel so sad that today's youth is fighting and dying so corporations can control resources and pipeline routes. That's what it's all about!

I am happy for you that your dad came back. Treasure his presence and that he is/was with you for so long.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
17. This is a very powerful photo.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 01:25 AM
Jan 2016

My brother who is two years younger than me was drafted.

The night he came to my husband and my apartment to tell me he got his papers to go to Vietnam, I sank down to the floor, grabbed his legs and begged him not to go. I was desperate, telling him I would hide him in my closet. Anything.

But he said he had to go, and fortunately he did return uninjured physically.

I will never forget those who didn't come back or who did, horribly damaged physically and in other ways.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
19. It is strange for me, to think that when the photo was taken, it could easily be the last one
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:18 AM
Jan 2016

my grandparents ever took of my dad. And I obviously never would have existed... I wonder what on earth he is thinking at this moment? Looks like he is reading some kind of manual. Seems about right, he is a good self taught mechanic

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
20. Your dad and I are the same age.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jan 2016

I was largely untouched by Vietnam. My older brother (born in 1943) enlisted in the army in 1961, was stationed in Berlin. He was actually there when the events in the movie "Bridge of Spies" took place. I recall very clearly not long after he was sent there, his writing a letter home saying he was very glad he'd been sent to Berlin, not to Vietnam.

Only one or two of the guys I went to high school with (class of '66) seems to have gone there. All of the guys who went to college were in ROTC and all of them served after college, but either none of them went to Vietnam, or I'm simply unaware.

My younger brother was classified 4F in his physical. Bad eyesight. Younger brother was born in 1954 and got a nice high lottery number.

Thank you for the picture.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
21. My thanks to him for his service.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:23 AM
Jan 2016

His face says it all: so much good faith and concern.

The thieving demagogues and Air America heroin traffickers that sent him - and 2 million others - in harm's way in Vietnam aren't fit to be in your dad's shadow.

Thank you.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. Great picture!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

Makes you think about the college kids today demanding "safe spaces."

Wasn't an option back then.

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