Does PTSD cause young men to commit domestic violence that they otherwise would not have committed?

[CommonSenseDemocrat]

This relates to Track Palin.

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	Depends by case, but it does not in Track Palin's case
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[FLPanhandle]

1. My father came back from Vietnam a different man

And a downright scary one at times.

Track however is fishing for an excuse.

[juxtaposed]

3. I'm sorry but I read your post and gave a chuckle at the end...

I saw what it did to a lot of relatives and friends ...

[Skittles]

6. is HE fishing or is it his pathetic mother?

[juxtaposed]

2. not a fan,, But with a big BUT yes it can...And we would be fools to not accept it..

[KittyWampus]

4. PTSD lowers their ability to channel destructive impulses in appropriate ways.

Which is different than direct causality

[Wounded Bear]

8. This ^^^

Of course, I'm not a clinician, but I think that PTSD will 'allow' such behaviors if not diagnosed and treated, but it doesn't really 'cause' it.

As a society we suck at taking care of our wounded veterans, especially psychologically. There have been improvements in the physical care of injury, but much needs to be done on the psychic side TBS.

[Major Nikon]

25. It also can cause sleep deprivation which can lead to all sorts of psychiatric disorders

[Lawud]

5. Of couse it could

PTSD can and many times does lead to drug and alcohol abuse which is a leading factor in domestic violence cases

[LeftyMom]

7. I read an argument recently that women with PTSD are mis/diagnosed with borderline personality.

I have no idea whether or not that's true (though anecdotally I know a lot of women who are abuse survivors who had untreated PTSD symptoms that weren't treated at all) but I think there's a real possibility to be considered that culturally we teach some people that violence is an acceptable response to trauma.

[raccoon]

22. I find that quite believable. Can you give us a link? nt

[gwheezie]

28. I read a stat about inpatient admits

To acute psych units that 80% of patients had histories of trauma in their childhood. It changes your brain chemistry. B-lines can be a pia to treat but I've had a number of patients who had such horrific abuse as children that I had nothing but admiration that they survived it. They are constantly being told how fucked up they are as adults that does very little to help them understand the positive strength and resilience they used to survive.

[Downwinder]

9. Let the Court decide.

[Kalidurga]

10. Cause is a bit of a strong word

I think that PTSD can make it a lot harder to handle anger appropriately.

[polly7]

11. No. nt.

[rufus dog]

12. This is what is most infuriating about the Whore of BabbleOn's comment.

PTSD is a serious issue, but her son is not a victim. Now he is a victim of horrendous upbringing. Btw, one thing missing from her rant, any mention of the actual victim.

[cwydro]

13. You do realize women can suffer from this too?

[Major Nikon]

26. ...with the same results

[madokie]

14. I came home bug nuts

and I've never lain a hand on anyone let along a woman. PTSD does not make one violent or sure didn't with me. Hell in all my nuttiness I couldn't even harm myself let alone someone else.

[1939]

20. I don't know if it was PTSD

It may have just been the year of separation and being without my wife. When I came back from Vietnam, I found out that I was a lot less tolerant of her faults. I never became violent though.

My father told me that after WWII when he was gone four years that he had real trouble adjusting to living in a house with wife, mother-in-law, and two small boys after being in an all male environment for a long time. He said he joined the National Guard after the war just to get back into a military environment.

[leftynyc]

15. Yes it does

However, I don't think track ever saw combat - from what I'm reading he drove trucks. I'd also like to know just when a doctor diagnosed him with PTSD. I don't believe for one minute he's seen a doctor and this is just sarah and donnie's story to try and tamp down the evidence this family is nothing but trash.

[davidpdx]

16. I think PTSD is a serious problem, but I don't think Track Palin can explain away his behavior

on PTSD.

[Lee-Lee]

17. Your question assumes only men can commit violence or have PTSD

Both are faulty assumptions. Women commit quite a string percentage of the domestic violence in this country (although men who are victims are far less likely to report it or seek help) and women suffer from PTSD.

Can PTSD manifest itself in violence? It's possible, yes.

It is, however, not a very common symptom at all and persons struggling with PTSD are far, far, far more likely to harm themselves than others.

But my experience having worked on the domestic violence team for several years as a deputy is that being an asshole is by far the cause of domestic violence, not PTSD. But it was often used as an excuse- I twice was able to present to the prosecution proof that the person claiming PTSD from military service was responsible for their actions proof they never even were in a combat zone. One was really great because he had faked records and was even getting VA disability for his fake PTSD and that led to a Federal prosecution.

And that reminds me- PTSD is the most often faked illness to get an I deserve VA disability rating because so much info is out there anyone can claim symptoms.

[LanternWaste]

21. Precisely how did the question assume only men can commit violence?

Precisely how did the question assume men and only men can commit violence?

I merely saw the question, "does X correlate to Y", which in fact, does not deny or weaken the equally valid question "does z correlate to Y?"

I think your inference of the statement is inaccurate.

[Lil Missy]

18. Not in this case. He was an asshole before the service. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

27. *This*

[alarimer]

19. It absolutely does not excuse anything.

I would tell his girlfriend to leave and find someone non-violent. I would certainly never trust him to not be violent ever again.

I hate the way it is used to excuse bad behavior. My boyfriend's kids have a bit of that going on too, terrible behavior, even arrests, yet no accountability, just excuses.

I think treatment is a good idea, so long as they stick with it. But that doesn't mean they don't deserve judicial punishment as well.

But in Palin's case, he was a criminal before the army, so he has no excuse.

[B Calm]

23. My father suffered from Combat Fatigue after WW2, but he never laid a hand against family. Track

was screwed up before joining the Army and unlike my father has no clue what war is!

[Iggo]

24. Does alcoholism cause drunk people to get behind the wheel of a car and run people over?

[notadmblnd]

29. Sara Palins son was prone to these violent proclivities before he served in Iraq.

Hell the entire family is prone to them.

It hasn't been that long since the entire family was in the news for assult when a brouhaha occurred at a party. I think even the dad was involved.

Also if I recall, her son was given the choice to either go to jail or go into the military. I don;t remember the crime but he chose the military.

Sara Palin is a pathetic excuse for a human being and will use any excuse to avoid accountability for her lack of parenting skills and knows that the American people have short memories and they will not only not blame her for her bad parenting, they will sympathize with her because the big old bad government is to blame for all her and her children's woes.