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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:35 PM Jan 2016

Saudi Arabia Is Killing Civilians with US Bombs

Last edited Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

January 25, 2016

Saudi Arabia has engaged in war crimes, and the United States is aiding and abetting them by providing the Saudis with military assistance. In September 2015, Saudi aircraft killed 135 wedding celebrants in Yemen. The air strikes have killed 2,800 civilians, including 500 children. Human Rights Watch charges that these bombings “have indiscriminately killed and injured civilians.”

This conflict is part of a regional power struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are bombing Yemen in order to defeat the Houthi rebels, who have been resisting government repression for a long time. Iran has been accused of supporting the Houthis, although Iran denies this. Yemen is strategically located on a narrow waterway that links the Gulf of Aden with the Red Sea. Much of the world’s oil passes through this waterway.

A United Nations panel of experts concluded in October 2015 that the Saudi-led coalition had committed “grave violations” of civilians’ human rights. They include indiscriminate attacks; targeting markets, a camp for displaced Yemenis, and humanitarian aid warehouses; and intentionally preventing the delivery of humanitarian assistance. The panel was also concerned that the coalition considered civilian neighborhoods, including Marra and Sadah, as legitimate strike zones. The International Committee of the Red Cross documented 100 attacks on hospitals.


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In an interesting twist, the Saudis contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation before Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State. In 2011, the year after the State Department had documented myriad serious human rights violations by Saudi Arabia, Hillary oversaw a $29 billion sale of advanced fighter jets to the Saudis, declaring it was in our national interest. The deal was “a top priority” for Hillary, according to Andrew Shapiro, an assistant secretary of state. Two months before the deal was clinched, Boeing, manufacturer of one of the fighter jets the Saudis sought to acquire, contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary now says the U.S should pursue “closer strategic cooperation” with Saudi Arabia.


Full article: http://marjoriecohn.com/saudi-arabia-is-killing-civilians-with-us-bombs/

Yemen is being purposefully and systematically destroyed, its people are suffering unimaginably, it's proud history deliberately obliterated ..... while the rest of the world does nothing.

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Saudi Arabia Is Killing Civilians with US Bombs (Original Post) polly7 Jan 2016 OP
Show me your friends malaise Jan 2016 #1
You're right, malaise. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #2
* ronnie624 Jan 2016 #16
You should see what they do to women who leave the house without wearing a tent. nt valerief Jan 2016 #3
Yes, I know what they do to them. polly7 Jan 2016 #4
Apparently the Saudis don't, just like the U.S. doesn't with their Iraq War. nt valerief Jan 2016 #5
No-one in the world cares, apart from those human rights orgs. being ignored and a few polly7 Jan 2016 #6
U.S. media is a blackout on what's going on in the world. Also, because our military budget valerief Jan 2016 #7
The Saudis and Iranians care. jeff47 Jan 2016 #26
I agree with that also. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #28
Hey, the right people are making a lot of money gratuitous Jan 2016 #8
I'm Canadian. polly7 Jan 2016 #9
Sorry, didn't mean you personally, polly7 gratuitous Jan 2016 #14
Oh no ... I'm sorry. polly7 Jan 2016 #17
You know it. There are those invested in war crimminals. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #31
Right now, Saudi Arabia doesn't know what the heck it's doing. Octafish Jan 2016 #10
That's just so weird. polly7 Jan 2016 #11
It IS crazy. Octafish Jan 2016 #12
Yes, Iran finally being able to become a player on the world stage economically ... polly7 Jan 2016 #13
So the US and Europe will call for a no-fly-zone, right? nt killbotfactory Jan 2016 #15
The hypocrisy is stunning, isn't it? nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #18
What's the big deal? Orrex Jan 2016 #19
Hard for me to get upset about them using US bombs FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #20
God, what a horrible excuse. polly7 Jan 2016 #21
It doesn't matter which of the many countries sold them the weapons FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #22
No, I'm not naive. And your excuse is still bullshit. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #23
It's not an excuse. FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #24
That's not really the point Bradical79 Jan 2016 #25
Exactly! +1000. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #27
K & R Quantess Jan 2016 #29
But someone made a buck or two. mmonk Jan 2016 #30

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. Yes, I know what they do to them.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016
Millions of Yemeni children are on the verge of starvation, many war-crime atrocities have been committed, it literally ....... is being destroyed. Does anyone care?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
6. No-one in the world cares, apart from those human rights orgs. being ignored and a few
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

journalists and bloggers paying attention. We sure don't see anything about it over here. Maybe our 'friends' have put the kibosh on letting us know just how many are suffering and dying because of their war-crimes. And then there are those who make billions selling them the weapons to do it, they probably don't need the attention either.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
7. U.S. media is a blackout on what's going on in the world. Also, because our military budget
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

makes up over 60% of our discretionary taxes, it's clear the U.S. is in the business of feeding trillions to war profiteers.

A lot of us wise up over the years, but there's always a new generation of testosterone-enraged youths to exploit for the benefit of the oligarchs. How can we stop them from supporting the money class's interests? When that happens, we can make real progress, but until then, it's business as usual.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
26. The Saudis and Iranians care.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jan 2016

Yemen's a proxy war.

And like virtually all proxy wars, it is very bad for the people actually in the country.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Hey, the right people are making a lot of money
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

So who cares about some piddly little crimes against humanity? And remember, if any of the righteously angry and vengeful survivors launch any counterattacks, then we have every reason and right to obliterate them, with our national political leaders yammering about making the sand glow with radiation while ordinary Americans cheer.

Aren't you proud to be an American?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. I'm Canadian.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jan 2016

But we've aided in plenty of these shams, so I'm not proud either.

You're right, and it's all about further enriching those who've discovered that never-ending, ugly, evil war, especially on nations without the capability to fight back, is the most profitable racket of all.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
17. Oh no ... I'm sorry.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jan 2016

It's just that a lot of people here get angry that I'm Canadian and post these things, so I never like it to seem like I'm tricking anyone (not you, ... those who don't mind these wars) when even a rhetorical question like yours is asked. I know what you meant and it was a great post. I apologize .... I have a much easier time getting my meaning across vocally than I do writing it down.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
31. You know it. There are those invested in war crimminals.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jan 2016

And those who vest themselves in ending those crimes.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Right now, Saudi Arabia doesn't know what the heck it's doing.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jan 2016

A while back, a Saudi prince reported 80-percent of the royal family favors a palace coup. All the oil in the world won't save any of them if they don't figure out how to treat people with respect -- even those who believe in democracy. If they really want to unburden their worries, they should try the concept where everyone has a piece of the action -- in theory, anyway.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
11. That's just so weird.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jan 2016

It's like they've always had so much money that being concerned how to treat people with decency has never had to play a part in the fantastic lives they live - money gets them anything and everything.

Clueless and warmongering assholes. (Sorry ....... I've just followed all of this in Yemen since the beginning as well as their role in IS and absolutely hate what they're doing).

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. It IS crazy.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

A good buddy from college is Egyptian. He told me that the Saudi royals were hated by most every regular person in the Arab world because they were so loathe to share their oil wealth. In more recent decades the Saudis have started to fund opportunities for the average Saudi, but have been slow to trickle down.

Ironic, for them it may be too late. With oil prices nearing $23 a barrel (or whatever), their stash is worth a small fraction of what it was worth when the wars were crimping the hose to jack up prices. Perhaps they thought that the prices wouldn't come down, but they have financed all manner of purchasing around the world.

Now that the income side is way down, their payments are still high. Sounds like what happened to us in Detroit, except with more zeroes on the check to Wells Fargo. Things don't look any better for price hikes on the immediate horizon, with Iran getting ready to rejoin the global economy.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
13. Yes, Iran finally being able to become a player on the world stage economically ...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jan 2016

Saudi Arabia and even many over here even who never wanted to see that happen and who are still working to try to stop it. The 'nuclear threat' was a complete bullshit excuse from the start, a lot of us knew that.

* Saudia Arabia.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
19. What's the big deal?
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jan 2016

The US kills civilians with US bombs all the time. Hell, I thought that was our official policy now.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
20. Hard for me to get upset about them using US bombs
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jan 2016

If we didn't sell them weapons, Europe would jump right in to fill the void, or Russia, or China.

It's not like if we didn't sell them weapons, then they wouldn't have any.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
21. God, what a horrible excuse.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jan 2016

Do you REALLY believe that war-crimes and atrocities like those destroying Yemen would be equipped and funded by anyone who wasn't SA's BFF? ......... and what a soulless, creepy way to defend the loss of life and suffering for millions. I imagine it IS hard for you to get upset over it. Sad.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
22. It doesn't matter which of the many countries sold them the weapons
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jan 2016

My outrage is saved for what the Saudi's decided to do with the weapons. I'll direct my outrage at the Saudi's use of those weapons.

Do you really think the if the US stopped selling the Saudi's weapons, that they wouldn't have a dozen arms merchants from other countries lined up within the hour? If so, you are quite naive.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
24. It's not an excuse.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jan 2016

It's being angry at the right people, and, yes, you are very naive if you think the Saudi's wouldn't have any weapons without the US.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
25. That's not really the point
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jan 2016

I don't see how you can blame one without blaming the other. We know what Saudi Arabia is going to do with the weapons. Ethically, I don't see how it's any different than if you sell a gun to someone who has made his intentions clear to murder his neighbors. "Well, someone is going to make money enabling this murderer, it might as well be me!".

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