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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:34 PM Jan 2016

The Secret Government Rulebook For Labeling You A Terrorist: BLACKLISTED (Jeremy Scahill Ryan Dev-

ereaux 2014)
"The Obama administration has quietly approved a substantial expansion of the terrorist watch list system authorizing a secret process that requires neither 'concrete facts' nor 'irrefutable evidence' to designate an American or foreigner as a terrorist..."

https://theintercept.com/2014/07/23/blacklisted

Another thread by and for the real DU reality-based community. Since no "proof" is officially required, who/what is a terrorist to you?

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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. It takes a brave sort to post something like this.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

Just as much as it takes to write, seeing how underneath the hood of your computer is a tape recorder with all you've ever written, as well as to whom you wrote it.

What use could that be? Ask IBM.

Proud to know who Edwin Black is.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Does opposing the crimes of the state make one an enemy of the state?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jan 2016

In other words: Does supporting criminality make me a good citizen?



Almost 12 Years After Calling a Reporter, DOJ Whistleblower Slapped With Ethics Charges

by Alex Emmons
The Intercept, Jan. 26, 2016

The D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel — the legal body responsible for overseeing the D.C. Bar’s professional rules — has filed ethics charges against Thomas Tamm, the former Justice Department lawyer who contacted the New York Times about President Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program in 2004.

The office’s charging papers, which were released Tuesday and first reported by the National Law Journal, cite two counts of professional misconduct. In addition to charging him with referring his client’s secrets to a newspaper, they also allege that Tamm “failed to refer information in his possession that persons within the Department of Justice were violating their legal obligations.”

According to a 2008 interview with Newsweek, Tamm did ask his supervisors about “the program” (as it was referred to by the administration). He was told that it was “probably illegal,” and that he should drop the subject. He even reached out to the staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who refused to discuss the program with him on the basis of its secrecy.

The D.C. Office of Disciplinary Counsel declined to comment.

In 2001, Tamm joined the Department of Justice’s Office of Intelligence Policy and Review, the agency responsible for filing individualized warrant requests before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. He soon discovered that one category of cases was treated differently: under “the program,” only the attorney general could sign the warrant applications, and only one FISA Court judge was allowed to review them. Tamm inferred that the evidence gathered to prepare the warrants must have been obtained illegally. In the spring of 2004, he walked to a nearby payphone to call New York Times journalist Eric Lichtblau. The Times would go on to win a 2006 Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping program.

In 2007, 18 armed FBI agents raided Tamm’s house, interrogated his wife, and pressured him to plead guilty to felony charges. He left the Justice Department and had to borrow money to pay his legal fees.

In 2009, Tamm won the Ridenhour Prize for Truth-Telling, and was celebrated by civil libertarians and transparency advocates for having “imperiled his own future liberty to preserve the liberties of all of us who live in this nation.”

CONTINUED...

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/26/almost-12-years-after-calling-a-reporter-doj-whistleblower-slapped-with-ethics-charges/



What Police State?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
7. Many of those lists were compiled by extreme RW spooks from many countries allied with US as well as
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

our own extreme RW intelligence community workers during the Cold War.

This isn't Ian Fleming bs, this is from and for the real DU reality-based community and belongs in this thread as much as it deserves its own.

Rogue Agents: The Cercle and the 61 in the Private Cold War 1951-1991 4th and Final Edition (David Teacher 2015 pdf via Cryptome)
https://cryptome.org/2015/12/Rogue-Agents-4th-edition.pdf

These lists and those that made them up have to be reviewed by WE, THE PEOPLE-anyone with me on that?

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
9. A terrorist is someone who uses violence against civilians to promote political change
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:57 PM
Feb 2016

At least, that's how I understood it.

The terrorist watch list seems to be pretty much just anyone or group the current powers don't like or suspect... which I'm sure will never be abused.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
11. Posting year-and-a-half old stories?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

Were you on vacation back when we discussed this the first time around??

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
12. Truth is timeless-and this is important for people that are politically active regardless of all
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

else--alert if you don't like it, but it's not violating any DU guidelines, is it?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
13. Isn't blowing up hospitals and everyone in/near them an act of terror? Who else thinks so? n/t
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:03 PM
Feb 2016
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