Elizabeth Warren is Toast

[MannyGoldstein]

With only 5 months to go in the Massachusetts senatorial campaign, Elizabeth Warren is only tied with incumbent Scott Brown in the polls.

Sure, the Krugmanesque firebaggers are spouting gibberish like "Five whole months? And she hasn't begun attacking her opponent yet? And she's tied, and keeps making gains in the polls? WTF are you talking about that she's toast?"

But experienced and realistic adults realize that there's too little time to make up such a vast gulf in those polling numbers. Because of the Bay State's foolish and impulsive selection of an FDR Liberal as their candidate, Brown will be their senator for six more years.

We should all heed this lesson.

Sincerely,

Third-Way Manny

[Cooley Hurd]

1. Third-way concern.

Thanks for that, Third-way Manny! BTW... this birth certificate issue is making me re-think my support for the Muslin-POTUS.

[Ian David]

2. Thank you for your concern. That's much more useful than actually trying to help. n/t

[SidDithers]

3. Third-Party Manny...nt

Sid

[dionysus]

28. !!!!!!

[inna]

74. low and creepy, typically

[dionysus]

87. oh yes, laughing at people poorly trying to lead DUers towards third parties is sooo creepy...

[GeorgeGist]

53. On fire tonight, Sid. nt

[TheWraith]

69. Maybe if he hadn't spent so much time insisting she'd win Nebraska in a landslide...

... it wouldn't be quite so embarrassing to find out that gee, maybe it's not really that simple, and elections being hard isn't simply because everyone but him and his approved select few is a corrupt tool of evil.

[MannyGoldstein]

71. Uh... do you realize that my OP is parody? nt

[JNelson6563]

4. lolz You crack me up!

Here's a pair of crutches, that nonsense is pretty lame.

Julie

[crazyjoe]

5. I'm afraid your correct, apparently we found out today she made a fortune by flipping

forclosed homes. Making money off other peoples misfortunes is sickening

[cali]

15. care to post a reputable link to that claim?

[crazyjoe]

68. sure, I find it hypocritical to campaign against "predatory banks" and then make money off

the banks "predatory" activities. I have family members that have lost their home to foreclosure, it is a horrible thing to have happen, especially if you've been in the house for years, put your blood sweat and tears into it, and then have big bank fat cats decide to take it all away from you and leave you in the street.
Then, to top it off, you have a "DEMOCRATIC" candidate for US senate come along and make f**king money directly from your misfortune ??!!
I would expect this behavior from the Republicans, but I'm sorry, that fact that she did this sickens me!


here is one link, but if you do a google search, you will see that this sad story is all over the news.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153832/Elizabeth-Warren-accused-making-fortune-flipping-foreclosed-homes.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Zorra]

79. LOL! Really? It "sickens" you? Welcome to DU!

Thanks for posting this article that is derived from a RW hit piece that uses disingenuously presented material. That propaganda material was based on transactions from the 1990's between 1993 and 1997. One transaction took place in 2000.

First of all, home loan interest rates were much higher in the 90's and early 2000's than they are today. The article makes no mention of this. So yes, she did loan money to her family at much higher interest rates than are the norm for today. But not out of line with interest rates at the time - the mid 90's.

Second, she loaned money to her relatives to buy homes. Her relatives could have gotten a loan from the bank. To make things easier for them, she loaned them the money they wanted to borrow. Duh.

Third, The GLBA caused the deregulation of the financial industry by repealing sections 20 and 32, and amending section 16, of the Glass Steagall Act.

This allowed bank holding companies to expand their securities and insurance activities to become financial holding companies as of March 11, 2000.

This was after Elizabeth bought and sold the homes referenced in the article.

So why don't you take your RW propaganda bullshit and stick it where the sun don't shine.


Have a nice time here at DU.

[immoderate]

81. No less than the Daily Mail?

--imm

[Honeycombe8]

48. If that's true, I'm okay with flipping homes. It doesn't matter why the house is on the market.

SHE isn't the one who foreclosed on the home. It's a house on the market that she got at a reasonable price, I assume.

It'd be no different if you were looking to buy a house, and bought one that is on the market because of a foreclosure. Those homes are not sold for a few dollars, like a tax sale. They are usu. sold at reasonable prices; they're not given away.

Sometimes foreclosed homes/condos are sold to HUD to be used as Section 8 housing, for low income but employed people. Are the people who live in housing provided by the govt for low income living off of others' misfortunes? Not hardly.

[snooper2]

84. Really, does it make you physically ill?

Do you also get upset by scrappers who buy folks cars they smashed up for pennies on the dollar?

How about the lady who buys grandma's wedding ring she pawned for a fraction of the value?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

6. We heed, we heed.

[CTyankee]

7. I heart you so much, 3rd way Manny!

You always bring the sense of the issue right back into focus here.

This 3rd way shit is getting on my last nerve and the TV set is off more often than it is on. You keep me sane, Manny, as a liberal. This is all garbage from the third way people and their false equivalencies.

[inna]

73. +

[Gregorian]

8. LEAVE PAUL KRUGMAN ALONE!

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[napoleon_in_rags]

9. When is the Third-Way Manny TV show coming out?

He belongs behind a desk with an American flag behind him, telling America and DU how it is, like the others of his ilk. These text posts don't do justice to his Americanness.

[tularetom]

10. I think a lot of people around here don't really get what you're trying to do

And sometimes, I'm one of 'em.

[Zalatix]

12. I feel parodies should not leave room for doubt as to what the message is.

But Manny is clearly making fun of the Third Way.

[joshcryer]

13. Just a typical caricature that doesn't apply to DU, but riles people up...

...because they think he's referring to them.

[uponit7771]

16. +1!

[sabrina 1]

42. Lol, I don't think they do either. I love Third Way Manny!

He's almost as good as Steven Colbert.

The serious and sensible people might need a sarcasm tag!

[Bandit]

11. I am sure Ted Kennedy, whose seat this formally was, would totally agree with you

[truedelphi]

14. I have actually watched the election night RW, NBC media interview

with the Republican candidate for some state office, and even as her opponent's election is being confirmed, and that candidate is about to announce her victory, the Talking heads are asking the Republican candidate to tell everyone how excited she is that the Republicans won!

And it wasn't a close election. (Debra Bowen over some losing Republican, Calif. 2006)

[razorman]

17. I'm afraid I have to agree with the overall point that she is toast for this election.

I could be wrong about that, of course; and hope I am. But, once the folks see you as a laughingstock, then a meme has set in. It has happened to politicians of both parties. Gerald Ford was actually an accomplished athlete, rather than the stumblebum that Chevy Chase made him out to be. Al Gore has lost much of the respect he held with the public, because his critics succeeded in making him into a joke. I fear Ms. Warren will not recover from this.

[cali]

18. did you even read the op?

[rhett o rick]

19. You lost me. Who see her as a laughing stock? nm

[razorman]

21. I was referring to the joking in MA about her native-American issue.

It is going around all over up here. She is being called, "Fauxcahontas" and "Lieawatha". I just don't see how she will recover, even though she is actually a worthy candidate.

[RBInMaine]

23. If this is the depth of the average MA voter, then they deserve naked Koch man.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. well, beg to differ...New Englanders hate phony. They

can smell it a mile away

[Selatius]

96. I dunno. I used to live in Massachusetts, and I didn't know how Mitt Romney made it to power. nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

20. Er, what?

[Flying Squirrel]

22. I think it`s satire.

Think we`re all confused here a bit though.

[Ruby the Liberal]

25. Apparently not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=758686

The concern is noted.

[MannyGoldstein]

38. Yes, it's satire.

I thought that writing that Warren's tied with Brown, yet she had to make up a vast gulf in the polling, would give it away for sure. And the five months part.

I always forget that these days, no matter how ridiculous my third-way parodies are, they actually reflect the views of some.

Sorry.

[Ruby the Liberal]

46. Wasn't referring to your OP

the response to it was not satire.

The OP was funny. I like Third-Way Manny satire.

[sabrina 1]

43. Uh, I think you're misunderstanding the OP!

Unless you're doing it too?

[Marrah_G]

26. I am from Mass and I am pretty confident that Ms. Warren will win in November

[WorseBeforeBetter]

27. I think Krugman is back on the "approved" list.

But give it a day.

[dionysus]

29. has anyone pointed out how lame your new shtick is yet? if not, let me be the first to do so.

[MannyGoldstein]

41. Agreed. It's also childish, petulant and

increasinglyand increasingly irrelevant.

Thank you for bringing me back to Earth.

Is that Jerry Garcia?

[sabrina 1]

44. I love Third Way Manny! I like him much better than the sensible, serious Manny!

He's Colbertish!

[SidDithers]

57. Colbertish...

OMFG.

Sid

[treestar]

59. +1

Doesn't make sense. What Democrats have said this about Elizabeth Warren? Where is there any indication the Democrats have abandoned her?

[RZM]

30. A RW friend of mine made an interesting point about Warren and Republican intransigence

Had they relented on her being head of the Consumer Protection Bureau, then she would be busy with that and Brown would probably be in a better position.

Instead they were hard-headed and inadvertently pushed her towards a Senate race that she has a good shot at winning.

Leave it to Washington types to never take the long view unless it's about their own careers.

[MADem]

35. It still might have been Brown v. Warren....

But it might have been Seti Warren, mayor of Newton.

Of course, there were a number of viable candidates before EW jumped in, but EW really has the ability to drag in the national cash--and she does have a sweet resume.

[RZM]

39. That's it. If it's going to be neck and neck with Brown vs. Warren

It probably wouldn't be with Brown and no-name 'MaDem'

(no offense )

Same thing here in Ohio. A real Republican candidate could probably defeat Sherrod Brown. But Josh Mandel? Who's only a year older than me? Not happening.

[MADem]

55. Hee hee--no offense taken!

If I were going to run for office, instead of supporting other candidates for the jobs as I enjoy doing, I'd start out on the bottom rungs to get myself a base! EW brings with her an already-established national base and a name brand. That national recognition and those endorsements from well-known political figures certainly don't hurt!

[littlewolf]

31. ok I am a little confused ...

I think this was parody .... I hope it was ....

[Merlot]

32. Scott Brown it Toast

"With only 5 months to go in the Massachusetts senatorial campaign, Scott Brown is only tied with challenger Elizabeth Warren in the polls....

But experienced and realistic adults realize that there's too little time to make up such a vast gulf in those polling numbers. Because of the Bay State's foolish and impulsive selection of wall-street owned pawn as their candidate, Warren will be their senator for the next six years."

[Yavin4]

33. Meh. Three Ways Are Over-Rated

No matter how many times I've tried, it just doesn't work. Too much choreography.

[MADem]

34. Warren took 96 percent of the vote at the convention--so no primary challenger.

Even though there was a spoiler who was working VERY hard to gum up the works.

The "pundits" with all the "insider info" were insisting just a week ago that EW couldn't break 80 percent. So ... whatever.

Don't count EW out. Nothing really happens until September. Everyone's at the beach until Labor Day.

And no one I know likes the Naked Nitwit. How many times do we have to look at his shitty commercial of him drinking coffee and sitting on his ass while some waitress tells him he can have another cup? I don't know who's running his media, but they've got their heads up their own -- or Scottie's -- ass...his commercial is easily among the most noxious going! It makes one want to coffee-poop!

[HooptieWagon]

36. Nice job. Me thinks some folks dont know parody when they read it.

[LiberalAndProud]

40. Yes, you are wise.

It is best to despair early and often, because a tie is simply too large a gap to overcome.

Woe is all of us.

[Zorra]

45. You're making DU suck, Third-Way Manny.

We're tired of these gloom and doom Third Way concern threads about Elizabeth Warren.

It's ok when a good FDR Democrat parodies a Third Way concern thread, though.

But only when it comes from a good FDR Democrat.

[kentauros]

47. What kind of toast?

Melba or French?

Yes, it matters

[Honeycombe8]

49. I don't know if she's toast, but it seems like she's in trouble. Then again, so is Brown.

As the incumbent, he should be far ahead of any challenger.

[1000 Words]

50. 8

[AverageJoe90]

51. You crack me up, Manny.

Seriously, you are just kidding, right?

[Arctic Dave]

52. If Elizabeth Warren is toast, please FSM, let Arctic Dave be the jelly.

Yeah baby, makes hungry for breakfast.

[Ichingcarpenter]

54. Elizabeth Warren with Toast

Elizabeth Warren





Toast

[B Calm]

56. Elizabeth Warren will make a great Senator

[spanone]

58. balderdash

[fascisthunter]

60. LOL!!!!!

[FarLeftFist]

61. This only works when the people you are mocking actually exist.

EVERYONE is pulling for Warren. Btw, divide & conquer is a GOP tactic. We're a big tent party and I welcome all, including centrist Democrats. Of course we would love more Liberals elected, but not every region in the U.S. that is represented by the D's will elect one. Think W.Virginia and most of the south. I'd rather have a center-left D than watch the entire south go republican, lose majorities.

Sincerely,

Pragmatic Liberal

[fascisthunter]

63. ya know, it's too bad the Third Way Dems have been attacking the left for so long

maybe this tent is a bit too large.

[MannyGoldstein]

65. Don't read posts 5 and 17

They'll break your heart.

[FarLeftFist]

70. OFFS. There's always one. Or 2. Here's to a Warren VICTORY!

[MannyGoldstein]

80. Indeed

[paulk]

62. "experienced and realistic"

you forgot "pragmatic"...

[LeftishBrit]

64. Is this sarcasm or real?

If real, then don't be so defeatist.

'The Bay State's foolish and impulsive selection of an FDR Liberal'...

They had the 'FDR Liberal' Ted Kennedy as their senator for over 45 years, until he died in office. And they have had another 'FDR Liberal', John Kerry, as their senator for 28 years now.

So stop spreading doom and gloom!

(And I may be English, but I have quite a lot of contact with people in Massachusetts in particular.)

[MannyGoldstein]

67. Sarcasm

Too dry, apparently. I have trouble trying to be more outrageous than actual posts.

Maybe I need to add unicorns.

[LeftishBrit]

82. Thanks - thought it might be - but some posts really are that crazy!

[juajen]

97. Ah, no, Manny. Stay the way you are, please.

[SidDithers]

72. Real...nt

Sid

[inna]

75. that's our Sid.

[SidDithers]

76. Right back atcha...

Sid

[inna]

77. sure

[redqueen]

66. Excellent satire!

If it's not intended as satire, well... good luck with the whole treading water to get ahead thing.

[woo me with science]

78. Very nicely done.

CAT



DOG



THIRD WAY DOG

[lonestarnot]

83. Wow. Are you kidding me.

[trotsky]

85. I love Third-Way Manny

Mainly for the reactions.

[LynneSin]

86. Are you on crack?

You're gonna judge a person WHO ISN'T EVEN THE NOMINEE YET FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY on a poll 5 months away from the election?

This thread should be locked just for the bad hysteria it's creating.

[dionysus]

89. lynne, this is manny's pathetic attemp to insult obama supporters, by using the lidicrous construct

that obama supporters are all the like the dumbass "third way manny" character he is portraying.

but i love the bitterness it oozes. i love the fact that he has about 5 years left of this. althought the constant campaign against democrats is stale by now. at least he's trying to liven it up with a new act....

[SidDithers]

91. And don't forget, Manny would like to have seen McCain beat Obama in 2008...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x761367

The question was "If you could reverse ONE Presidential election since Watergate, which one would it be?"

Manny's answer was 2008. Not Reagan over Carter in 1980, or Bush over Gore in 2000. Manny said that the ONE election in the past 40 years that they would most liked to have reversed was Obama vs McCain in 2008.

Third-party Manny, indeed.

Sid

[dionysus]

94. on the bright side, it always brings DU's disgruntled non\ex-dems out of the woodwork to fill their

pampers yet again and dream of a democratic defeat once more. this entertains me.

really is a shame daily TOS violations are completely ignored until they get to BBI level of trollery... although some folks sure give BBI a run for his money...

"Douchewald\Manning 2012!!1!1!"

[inna]

95. you're not hearing yourself, are you.

would've been funny if it wasn't sad and borderline disturbing, really.

"pathetic, ludicrous, dumbass, oozing bitterness"... LMFAO. what a classic case of projection. spectacular, in a way.



"constant campaign against democrats" - FUCKING A\!@!! Is that what you're trying to accuse Manny of now??


fuck me. this place should be researched, years from now, for purely humanitarian purposes if anything - speaking as a scientist only.

[MannyGoldstein]

92. It's parody/sarcasm nt

[LynneSin]

93. Then might I suggest...

OR



OR

best yet



Those help when you want your thread to be considered a work of sarcasm.

[Cali_Democrat]

88. "Third-Way Manny"

[HughBeaumont]

90. I still say you need these for authenticity . . .