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[elleng]

1. Thinking of you all.

[roguevalley]

21. hugs to all of you

[malaise]

2. How sad

That's a long time to have a pet

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. The larger the parrot, the longer they live

why when Alex died that surprised me, he was 35, quite middle age for an African Gray. Conures can live upwards of 40 in captivity.

[malaise]

6. I knew some very old macaws

lasted longer than most of their owners' marriages

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Why after both birds die

we are not getting any more. We do not want to outlive them.

[malaise]

16. After my beloved dog Roots died

I decided - no more dogs - I bawled for a month when I had to put her down - I had her for 12 years. Pets become family.

[Live and Learn]

37. They really do. nt

[nc4bo]

143. Adopt an older bird from Phoenixlanding.org.

Everyone seems to want babies and there are lots of middle aged and seniors who need forever homes.

So sorry again Nadin

[nadinbrzezinski]

144. Hell, my local humane society

has many older birds surrendered to them as well.

Once the adorable cute ones reach the teen years

[DarthDem]

3. So Sorry To Hear

This is very sad and I'm sorry to hear it. Perhaps he'll be okay and I'll have a good thought for you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. If it is what I think it is

he will be treated, (not cheap) and he will be back to his normal bitey self soon. He can be quite the atacky bird, But I knew he was not feeling well when he walked into the bathroom, it was how he looked. It was more like mom, I don't feel well. I called the vet immediately.

But I thought, since many DU'ers have pets, that a warning about metal poisoning was in order.

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

4. So so sorry.

[Adsos Letter]

7. Sorry this is happening, nadin.

Pets are family. 😕

[TwilightGardener]

10. Hoping for the best for your bird.

[Jnclr89]

11. +1

[11 Bravo]

12. My thoughts are with you, nadin. Pets are family.

[In_The_Wind]

13. Wishing you good luck with your featherhead.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. thanks

will post an update... and I suspect this will be a long night.

[In_The_Wind]

17. And, I'm glad you are over your fever.

It seems as if I live and breathe to keep my blue & gold happy.

I understand those long nights.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Well, this is what is going around

it was three days of not fun.



I heard a thunk... so checked on him. He seems to look a little less bad, and connie is not avoiding him. So I don't think he is going to die, but chelating therapy IS expensive.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Thanks to all of you

I thought the metal warning was important. By the way keys are also bad for pets to play with.

[countryjake]

18. Sending good healing vibes on to Nanday...

and you, too! Hoping he'll get better and is not seriously ill.

Maybe he just missed seeing you while you were sick; that's what our old dove gets like if I'm down with something or I'm away for any length of time...he acts depressed, missing me, and stops cooing (and won't accept any treats from my man, either).

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. He was making a nest out of the papers under the snake

so it is likely zink... am waiting for number two to go to bed to vacuum all the remaining debris. I don't feel like fighting her

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Update, Cookie passed on in my arms five minutes ago

[liberal_at_heart]

24. I am so sorry. It's amazing how much they can mean to us.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. What is amazing is how much they can teach us

dogs are domestic animals. Parrots, never ever make that mistake. You are developing a relationship with an intelligent, but wild creature, that is far from domestic. Some cat people say that about cats, and I have never been owned by a cat, so I don't know.

Yes, dogs are intelligent, about 3 year old equivalent. and can understand something like 300 words,

With parrots, we know due to the research with Alex that they are anywhere from a 3 year old mental age, with an intelligence of a five year old, if not slightly oder. I know they understand language. And as long as you are willing to work with them and develop a relationship, you will be rewarded with a hell of an experience that is not like that of having a dog... it is very different.

I had a dog when growing up, blackie, and the relationship with these guys is very different. I quip they trained me.

So I will miss that... this is the second in the flock and no, Connie is not getting another brother or sister. I am not willing to be outlived by a parrot.

[artislife]

23. Hugs

I pet sit and one of my sits has three dogs and a green bird, named Kuaia. I thought I wouldn't get to know his personality. Boy, was I wrong. They all have their own energies and sense of humor.

Sorry you had to say good bye to such a soul.

[villager]

26. Condolences, Nadin....

Never easy to lose the "beastly" members of our family, either...

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. It never is

[Behind the Aegis]

28. I am sorry for your loss.

I too have a parrot, Blue-head Pionus. She broke her "knee" a few months back because her nails were not clipped correctly, she is still limping.

As a bird lover, I feel for your loss.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Well Connie is now a single girl

a sun conure. She was a single bird for the first 3 years of her life, now she is back to that.

I will have to be careful in the morning, since she does need to see her brother did pass.

[Behind the Aegis]

30. Willow has always been single (unless you count my husband).

She is very fond of me too, but when our cat passed, Tony, I had to let the dogs see. Tony's BFF my female chihuahua, Marigny, was at his side when he passed, she whimpered and put her paw on him. I lost my shit. She looked for him for almost two months. I hope Connie has an easier time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. When tuky died, and cookie saw the body

he got very low and started to whimper in a way I have never heard a bird do... Yes, we lost our shit.

Connie acted like she did not care. So we shall see how she reacts in the morning, They were starting to bond. But that is one reason, If they do not see the body... they will never know what happened.

[shenmue]

32. I'm sorry

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Thanks

[lovemydog]

33. I'm so sorry for your loss.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Thanks

[Live and Learn]

34. So sorry. Losing pets is always heartbreaking. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. It always is

[Live and Learn]

46. ...

[irisblue]

35. I am so sorry

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Thanks

[In_The_Wind]

36. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Thanks

[malaise]

38. Too sad

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Thanks

[pnwmom]

39. You were sick and exhausted and I'm sorry this had to happen, too.

It's hard to lose any pet, and to feel at all responsible would make it ten times worse -- even if your mind correctly told you it wasn't your fault. Still, what a heart-ache.

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. Thanks my husband reminded me

the few times he should not have made it, like when he bit (not kidding) a computer power supply, went flying shook himself up, and went back at it.

So we will remember him for his antics. Right now the other one is just getting close She woke up well before sun is up (which is rare)... me still fighting the cold, that is what woke me up... the cough.

[hlthe2b]

40. Oh, I'm so sorry, Nadin

Your post subject line made me cry first thing this morning.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I'm sorry to make you cry

that was not the intent. We all love our "kids" and I know each one of them is special to each of us.

[MerryBlooms]

41. I'm so sorry for your loss, my condolences.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Thanks

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

52. Condolences.

It's been just over a year since we lost my little guy, and I still miss him every day. People fixate on species, but any thinking being with a personality becomes family, not just a 'thing'. And it hurts when they're taken from us.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Well there are some differences with species

and how you relate to them. As to the sentient part... absolutely. Why we are burying him by his brother. They were kind of bonded in life, well, let them be under the earth in death.

They are our "kids" and they are special.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

56. I actually just changed 'sentient' to 'thinking'.

I didn't want for someone to come in and start nitpicking about how I used the term.

But yes, they become children. I feel like I failed my guy. He was prone to pancreatic attacks, and I just fed him too much 'human' food over the years, made it worse.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. In that respect we did not fail ours

parrots should NOT eat as much crap (seed) as they do. Cookie was dying from malnutrition since he did not have a good diet 10 years ago. So changing his diet was a challenge, we did it, he had no pet food for the last 10 years. That is how we bought him an extra ten years.

[BlueJazz]

53. Awww...I'm so sorry, nadinbrzezinski. I know you love your little guy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. Thanks

[IADEMO2004]

54. I don't understand what is bad about playing with coins.

After my wife died a few months ago a person asked if I was going to sell her birds like that was something I could do. I guess some don't think of birds as real pets but I know the hurt losing one brings.

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. Coins have zink on the surface, especially nickel, dime and quarters

which is a neuro-toxin...

Believe it or not some bird toys (yeah they should know better, the manufacturers that is) have zinc as well, Why after Connie got sick as a chick we never ever got them toys with a clasp or bell that could have that.

And no, a lot of people do not believe they are sentient beings, or for that matter pets. I am willing to bet the birds miss your wife, and my condolences on your loss as well.

[IADEMO2004]

78. Thank you. I had no idea coins could be toxic.

As my wife slowly weakened I guess you could say the birds were weaned. I have always done the feeding and cleaning but never a doubt who they liked best.

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. We did not either when Connie got that sick as a chick

and birds make themselves pretty clear as to who or what they like.

Connie just had breakfast, and it has dawned on her. She is not the happiest of birds at the moment.

[me b zola]

59. I am so sorry for your loss

Pets are family and I know the pain of losing one. Comfort yourself with the memories that you have, and that you were a kind and loving family member to your beloved feathered baby.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. We will remember them, both the cockatiel and the nanday

they are now both gone

[Hoyt]

62. Very sorry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. thanks

[ladyVet]

64. So sorry, Nadine. :( It's hard to lose our furred/feathered/skinned friends. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

66. Thanks it is

I expect to lose it when hubby gets home from work.

[polly7]

65. I'm so sorry, nadin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. thanks

[Tsiyu]

67. My condolences to you n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

76. thanks

[MuseRider]

68. So sorry to see this Nadin

they are our friends and family. Get well and find some peace while you morn.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. Well Connie is getting her waffle in a few minutes

She was not particularly happy this morning. She also woke up before the sun was up. (I did, the cough woke me up)

[MuseRider]

73. Poor thing

both of you.

I hope you get well soon. It sounds awful.

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. Whatever I got IS nasty

and it is making the rounds. I am on the mend, and feeling better, believe it or not, Wednesday I really could not move... and I SLLLLEEEPPTTTT.

The high fever was the worst part. Now waiting to call the vet to cancel his appointment. When they said Monday, I told them, he won't make it. Well I wish we had an emergency one but he was old, so perhaps he could not have made it anyway.

[Solly Mack]

69. I'm sorry, nadin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. thanks

[stage left]

72. I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend.nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. thanks

[lunasun]

80. so sorry to hear take care

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. thanks

[2naSalit]

81. So sorry to hear this!

That's so sad.

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. Thanks

[bigwillq]

82. I am so very sorry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

85. thanks

[Greybnk48]

86. Please accept my heartfelt sympathy.

Being a bird person, I know what this feels like. We lost two beloved greys over the years and one of those deaths felt like I died too! Awful! We still have a 44 y/o blue front (George) and two cockatiels, all rescues. We've had George 15 years so we'll have to go through it again we've become so attached, but they're worth it.

People who don't have birds have no idea how much they bond with their human. Take care Nadinbrzezinski. My thoughts are with you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

87. Thanks

it is having a relationship with a wild animal. I know, and that blue and gold might outlive you.

This is one reason we are not thinking of getting any more parrots.

We still have connie (the sun conure) she is 16, going on 17...

[Greybnk48]

110. George (of the Jungle)is a blue fronted Amazon,

45 y/o this month (born Feb 1971). I've had him for 14 years via adoption, but he had two wonderful handlers before me. Hi original mom died and his second mom of 17 years wanted more freedom to travel, etc. She had him from when she was 14 until she was 31, when I took over. I'm 67 now and my avian vet thinks George and I will probably die about the same time. I hope he goes first and is with us until the end of his life, but as you know, things happen. We won't take any more parrots in either due to our age.

[DarthDem]

88. Aw, Damn

I just saw the update. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Best to you, your family and Connie.

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. Thanks

She was clingy today

[shraby]

90. I'm sorry Nadin. Words are so damn inadequate! I had a bird once I think of from time to time.

I was a teenager when I lost him..my brother accidentally let him out of the cage outside somehow. You just never forget them, at least I didn't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

91. He is buried in the same yard tuky is at

My sisters back yard. Tuky it's been five years. So no, you don't forget them.

[haele]

92. So sorry Nadine....

Birds have so much personality and become so attached to flock members it's like losing a lifetime friend. I hope your other girl is okay.
And please don't beat yourself up with guilt; birds will get into everything they can. We had a cockatiel that got into something when we thought we had bird-proofed the area before we let him out to play a bit, lost him within 4 hours of the onset of symptoms something was wrong.

Haele

[nadinbrzezinski]

96. They do

Today was a day to remember his antics some of them should have killed him much younger. Biting into a computer power supply.

Yeah he went to the doc for that.

[roamer65]

93. My condolences, Nadin.

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. Thanks

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. I love judge mental people

1.- Cookie ate a balanced diet including fruit, veggies, meat, rice, et al Perhaps in your judgement you believe birds eat seeds, wrong...seeds is like feeding Hershey bars to your children.

2.- he had veterinary care all his life. I called the vet as soon as I noticed he was sick. Vet did not have an appointment. I told them he was very sick. You do not take a bird to anything but an avian vet. He was checked last in September. He and his sister got annual check ups.

3.- Why are you being one nasty person trying for the guilt trip? By the way, I am alerting this nasty post if yours not expecting the jury to do a thing, but maybe we will be surprised. Nasty, nasty, nasty. And off to the list with you. The list of nasty people.

And here is the alert


On Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:24 AM you sent an alert on the following post:

Why didn't you take him to the vet when he looked sick?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7590872

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Bird passed, this kind of guilt tripping is not fit for DU

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:35 AM, and voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I will not judge.... the alerter chose to..... shame on him/her. Be ashamed of yourself.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: A pet is a member of the family. Even if everything LeftyMom said is correct, this is not how one DUer should treat another who has just had a death in the family.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The thoughts could have been expressed in a more kindly manner. And the bird has just died, the OP said she had been ill - you don't know the true circumstances. The OP is obviously feel guilt and sadness - that is truly very sad.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Seriously what the FUCK? Someone's beloved pet dies and you lecture them? What the fuck? Hide. A million times. Hide. You made me sick. Shame on you.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

[SusanCalvin]

111. I am so sorry you had to deal with this.

[renate]

98. I'm so sorry

It's so hard when a beloved animal dies. We can't tell them in words how much we love them, but I think they know.

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. thanks they do

[AngryOldDem]

99. I'm so very sorry.

And PLEASE do not let judgmental people bring you even further down right now.

Please know that you took care of your bird as best you could, and that, sadly, some things are just beyond our control. You gave him a good home and a good life.

There are a lot of people -- including myself -- who understand your grief and are with you right now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

100. She is not

She got hidden, but that is classic bully behavior.

As to Cookie, Nandays have an expected lifespan of 30 years. Cookie was 28... so I think we did take care of him well. Also we do know that when Mister was a strict seed eater (got it took work to change that), he was indeed dying of malnutrition.

Connie is rather clingy though

[islandmkl]

102. so sorry...losing a 'pet' family member is always devastating...

as John Lennon misquoted Paul's 'The End' in a Playboy interview:

"And in the end, the love you get is equal to the love you give."

[emulatorloo]

103. l'm so sorry for your loss. I know how your heart is breaking

[Worried senior]

106. I also know how devastating

to lose a pet.

We've had dogs and parakeets and it's heartbreaking to say the least. I think animals are so much more deserving of our love than many people we have to interact with.

I worry about our boy, he's six years old and I am 70 so keeping my fingers crossed that we make it together. I know he'll be well taken care of if the worst happens but it still is a concern.

[nadinbrzezinski]

107. That is why when Tuky passed five years ago

we decided against getting another parrot. Even a cockatiel, had a danger of outliving us.

Connie is still around. She has a good 10 years in her... when she passes, if we get another pet it will be a small rescue dog. (Yes, from the pound)

She is looking for her brother, I think it is finally dawning on her.

[AngryOldDem]

112. Do look for grieving behavior.

Two weeks ago today, our beloved Tortie, Pepper, had to be put to sleep after throwing a clot that left her both unable to walk and in great pain. Totally unexpected, and devastating.

We have a 5-year-old Dachshund, Heidi, that is still going around the house looking for Pepper. Yesterday she was sitting under a window in the dining room, where Pepper used to perch while watching for birds. Heidi also sits at the top of the basement stairs, as if she's waiting for Pepper to come up. She sometimes whines. Pepper was here when we got Heidi, so Heidi is truly lost right now. I don't see why it would be any different for birds who were raised together.

Again, I'm so sorry. They are not "pets" -- they're members of the family.

[nadinbrzezinski]

114. They are

and right now she is cuddling. (I need a nap, badly, that cold that refuses to die), but the bird is having none of that.

[Worried senior]

118. I did tell my husband

if we were in the market for another dog I'd get the oldest and been there the longest one regardless of how it looked or anything else.

[nadinbrzezinski]

123. Well my only qualifier would be size

We cannot have a medium or large dog. Would not be fair to the dog. Nor a high energy breed either. So we would have to look for a smaller breed, or preferably smaller street mutt.

[demtenjeep]

124. please do not get any puppies unless you are truly committed to them

you have to clean out their cages at least twice a week

Wash their blankets because they bring hair and dirt in from outside

Also, puppies need to eat right and not table scraps

[SusanCalvin]

104. I am so sorry for your loss.

[nadinbrzezinski]

108. thanks

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

105. I'm really sorry for your loss

I know you've been sick and not able to do as much, but please try to keep the cage area and food bowls clean for your other bird. Our feathered friends are much more at risk of taking ill if their cages are not cleaned on a regular basis of waste, debris, and spoiled food.

And I'm not sure if you are aware, but rust is very dangerous to birds.

I hope you feel better soon. I know how difficult it is to let things go when we are ill.

Peace.

[nadinbrzezinski]

109. And you are aware that our cocaktiel

lived beyond life expectancy and cookie at life expectancy. I think I know what I am doing. In fact, their vet would agree with that statement.

This is what I call a low level aggression and off to alert mode (which I never do) and you off to the same list of nasty people.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

116. Again, I'm sorry for your loss

but concern for living creatures is not a "low level" of aggression.

[zappaman]

117. To some it is.

On Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I'm really sorry for your loss
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7591487

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

low level aggression... and not worthy of this site.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:27 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you serious? I don't see any aggression, just someone offering unsolicited advice. From the look of the photo, I would say the advice was spot on.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster offered suggestions that might help prevent loss of other beloved pets, and whether you like the comments or not, they are factually based and not inappropriate. Also would add that the food being fed the birds is unhealthy,
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WTF? That is a very nice post.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system.

[demtenjeep]

119. the jury system works

I agree with #2, 3 and 7 as well as 1, 5 and 6

[nadinbrzezinski]

122. Once again, let me repeat this for you, since obviously you have issues comprehending this

they are well taken care off. They are loved, and they have thrived.

And the jury sucked on this one. I am actually shocked it worked above, becuase the jury rarely works.

I consider what you did BULLY BEHAVIOR. So as a good bully, have the last word, welcome to the list, it is not the ignore list, but you have joined bullies and antisemites. ENJOY.

Have a good life... and I see one of the aforementioned bullies has come in support of you. Remind me when you are grieving to be nasty to you. Oh wait, I would not be nasty to you. My mom taught me manners.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

132. I tried as kindly as I could

to point out that your bird was living in DANGEROUSLY FILTHY conditions. Yes, I was being kind when I didn't use those words and mentioned that you might have been too sick to care for your bird properly, since you mentioned that you were ill. However, it is obvious that that cage has been filthy FOR A LONG TIME.

There. Now, I'm being blunt.

"Bully and antisemites?"

You have got to be kidding.

[demtenjeep]

133. standard go to

instead of admitting there might be some truth

I am sorry that a pet was lost, but if something can help prevent future loss, I would sure want to know.



We lost a baby pup about 7 years ago, we were partially to blame as the tether we used was not strong enough. It was horrible and painful but we never let it happen again.

[Kali]

138. you were very kind and tactfull

but disagreeing or pointing out any error to the OP will get you called a bully and worse.

cages are a mess and it looks like the poor thing is living on toaster waffles and chex cereal. OP is correct, seeds are not a balanced diet for parrots, but neither is processed white flour human breakfast filler. seeds would be a vast improvement over that.

just because someone claims to love and care for an animal (or a person) doesn't mean they are doing it correctly. how many of us kill our pets with too much kindness, too much food?

it is always sad to lose a pet, but pointing out some tips to keep remaining ones in good health is not bullying.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

140. Thank you.

I appreciate it.

[shanti]

113. so sorry for your loss...

birds are special. i once had a cockatiel named cindy. she was such a sweet bird, but never got a chance to get old. one day when she was out of her cage, my oldest opened the door unaware, and off she went. guess i didn't get her wings clipped soon enough. i could hear her calling for me in the trees for a few minutes, then nothing. it was painful!

hope you're feeling better soon.

[nadinbrzezinski]

115. I am sorry for your loss as well

(And connie needs to get her wings clipped, but will wait a week)

[TuxedoKat]

120. So sorry

for the loss of your beautiful bird. (((HUGS)))

[nadinbrzezinski]

121. thanks

[nadinbrzezinski]

125. A note to the trolls and juries

lecturing somebody after a pet dies, is not just low, but it is bully behavior of the worst kind. This is what makes DU suck.

A bird that lived a long an happy 28 year life is not badly taken care off Expected life spand for these birds is 25-30. Here some data for you

Interesting Facts:
Common Name: Nanday Conure
Size: Up to 12"
Family: Psittacidae
Habitat: South-central regions of South America
Endangered: No
Behavior: Playful, fond of attention and snuggling, and requires lots of social stimulation. Very vocal.
Diet: High-quality pelleted food, vegetables, and an occasional treat of a small amount of fruit or small nut.
Owner Challenges: The Nanday Conure makes a great pet for someone who has the time and patience to provide plenty of social stimulation and affection for a devoted and entertaining pet.
Life Span: 20+ years
Average/Initial Cost: $200 and up

This is the kind of behavior that while engaged by a SMALL, VERY SMALL group of Bullies, make this place suck,

I make a promise. When the people who are engaging in this behavior lose a family member, human or pet, I will not engage in that behavior. I consider shaming people to be a high form of aggression and bully behavior, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

You are beyond shaming, so I do not believe you would even understand how hurtful your behavior can be. I see it for what it is. BULLY BEHAVIOR, so while you are trying to hurt me, I am laughing at you. In fact, you are confirming what I think of you. Congrats.

And for the juries, to allow 2 out of 3 of these high level aggressions to stand, shows why the system is highly dysfunctional or why some folks are protected.

Now if you are going to once again post another aggression I will alert on you... not counting on the juries functioning at all.

Oh and one last note, them eating human food, is not just approved by their vet, but encouraged by their vet.

[tazkcmo]

126. I'm really sorry for your loss.

Find peace soon.

[nadinbrzezinski]

129. Thanks

[Nite Owl]

127. So sorry for your loss

losing a pet can be so devastating.
Hope that you feel better too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

128. We buried him yesterday

and connie is extremely clingy and bitey, so I worry about her now.

[Nite Owl]

134. My dogs did grieve when they lost one of

their buddies. Took a while but they did recover. Our furry and feathered friends have the same feelings that we do. If we were out walking and my little girl saw a big black dog she would pull on that leash until she made me go over to see it. It never stopped, they love, they care as we do.

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. I know, when Tuky died

cookie did cry, I swear, when we showed him the body. He could never again see a photo of his best buddy

[TDale313]

130. I'm so sorry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

131. Thanks

[TwilightGardener]

136. Very sorry to hear this. Birds are such good buddies--hurts terribly to lose them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

137. Thanks they are

[Laffy Kat]

139. So sorry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

141. Thanks

[demtenjeep]

142. I am truly sorry you lost your baby

I know how painful it is

I also know what it is like to feel partially responsible

Please take care of your other baby

[NobodyHere]

148. Someone is alerting in force today

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Birds are well taken care off, this is bully behavior, This is an attempt to shame and it is wrong.

A bird with a life expectancy of 20+ years that lives to 28 is **well taken care off.** And to the jury... I realize to some of you this might not be hurtful behavior but this is classic bully behavior and DU should not tolerate this.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:29 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter is the real bully here.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I do not think the person who alerted took this as it was meant.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[nadinbrzezinski]

150. I would like you to read this

juror

and you are now in my mind enabling this aggression.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7592483

Next I will hear from you guys that this aggression is deserved or something, and by the way, congrats you are now in that list too.

[kentauros]

145. Oh, I am truly sorry for your loss.

I'm sure he was comforted that you were there with him the whole time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

146. Thanks

He was loved

[mfcorey1]

147. Peace for you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

149. thanks

[clarice]

151. Hugs and kisses Sweetie. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

152. Thanks

[cleanhippie]

153. Question. Are birds generally this filthy?

I don't know much about birds, but I thought they were impeccably clean creatures. From what one can see in the photo, that birdcage and it's surrounding area appears disgustingly dirty and unsanitary.

Or is that normal?

[B2G]

154. Why do you think it's ON TOP of the cage? nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

156. What cookie was (and so is connie)

is camera shy, so that one one of the few photos we have. It was taken with my iphone, We have pro gear and could never do it with the pro gear. Lens is a a nice perch you see. You take em when they let you. And birds are clean, but they also can shred food and other stuff and fling it. Why you should have something under the cage to catch it, which was cleaned as well.

His cage was cleaned every day. What he also was is a shredder, and he spent most of his time OUTSIDE the cage, just like connie does. His favorite spot was not ON THE Gage, but by the entry way. He had a toy there that he like to leaned against the mirror and well, shred.

Connie spends most of her time with her humans.

[cleanhippie]

157. However you goose to view it, that appears disgustingly nasty.

Sorry for your loss.

[nadinbrzezinski]

158. However you goose it

I promise when you lose somebody I will NOT JUDGE you, I would ask the same, but I see a few people here cannot help themselves. And at this point I feel sorry for you.

I will not judge you, just add you to the list of people I do not intend to interact with on DU ever again. Most of them are for racist reasons... this is for being overtly judgemental. Have a good life.

[demtenjeep]

159. they can do all of that in one day? WOW I had no idea

we live in a penthouse now and were thinking about some kind of small indoor pet but if that is one day I think I will pass and just have pictures.

[herding cats]

155. I'm so sorry.

I know you must be heartbroken. It's so painful to lose one of our pets.

[nadinbrzezinski]

160. Thanks to all of you for your good wishes

but some folks, they know who they are, cannot help themselves.

They are in the list of nasty folks I now maintain, Never again they will go on ignore, but they are IN THE DAMN LIST, They confirmed my views not one bit nice of them. I consider them to be very nasty people. Thanks for confirming that view, I am closing this thread.

Cooks is buried, connie is grieving, and so are we But some people insists on crapping on people even at that point, proving they are bullies of the worst kind. So I am self deleting.

Thanks to the vast majority of decent people on this site. Those four, are just nasty In truth it is also the juries that let these bullies get away with it, but it is DU, it is expected, craping on people by the few and the proud is what we expect. So no more room for the peanut gallery to try their crap

And these are the people who make this place at times suck. They are bullies and leaving this thread open is too much of an attraction, in particular to one of them. This person is one nasty individidual. My contempt cannot even start to be described. I wish that person that some day somebody will do that, and more to them. Bullies can never handle that when done to them.

So to that bully.

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That is what you deserve.