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Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:31 PM

Advise to DUers: Stay off the DU Primaries Forum

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NYC Liberal (a host of the General Discussion forum).

If you haven't posted there yet, don't.

I did my first post today. And right now, I'm not sure whether I'm an antisemitic, communist piece of shit, or a wingnut infiltrator who hates humans and eats kittens.

I can't wait until this election is over. The DU Primaries Forum seems to be a tremendously hate-filled place where otherwise sane Democrats have lost their minds. Any remark or response you post is immediately twisted and used to "prove" that you are either for or against Bernie/Hillary/Whoever. Or perhaps I should say Hillary/Bernie/Whoever. After all, putting someone's name first matters.

My congratulations and best wishes to Skinner et.al. for recognizing that a Primaries Forum was needed. It has isolated a "poisonous strain" from the rest of DU. We all have pockets of hatred within ourselves. In this case, Isolation was a wise, civilized, Democratic idea.

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Reply Advise to DUers: Stay off the DU Primaries Forum (Original post)
Cyrano Feb 2016 OP
Lurks Often Feb 2016 #1
Cyrano Feb 2016 #4
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #22
Cyrano Feb 2016 #23
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #65
kath Feb 2016 #70
leftynyc Feb 2016 #88
Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #91
leftynyc Feb 2016 #94
monmouth4 Feb 2016 #2
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #3
mikehiggins Feb 2016 #5
TreasonousBastard Feb 2016 #6
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #66
SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #97
cwydro Feb 2016 #7
Chemisse Feb 2016 #39
flygal Feb 2016 #67
lamp_shade Feb 2016 #8
leftstreet Feb 2016 #9
leftynyc Feb 2016 #89
demmiblue Feb 2016 #10
PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #16
WinkyDink Feb 2016 #11
KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #12
Cyrano Feb 2016 #17
KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #49
B Calm Feb 2016 #13
Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #14
CurtEastPoint Feb 2016 #15
malaise Feb 2016 #18
gollygee Feb 2016 #27
Turborama Feb 2016 #38
roamer65 Feb 2016 #73
randome Feb 2016 #19
Cyrano Feb 2016 #20
Gregorian Feb 2016 #21
demwing Feb 2016 #108
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #24
Paladin Feb 2016 #25
Cyrano Feb 2016 #29
liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #45
Cyrano Feb 2016 #51
liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #52
Cyrano Feb 2016 #54
liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #56
RobertEarl Feb 2016 #74
hfojvt Feb 2016 #107
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #110
Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #26
Cyrano Feb 2016 #33
Fumesucker Feb 2016 #77
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #28
Lint Head Feb 2016 #30
Texasgal Feb 2016 #31
BKH70041 Feb 2016 #32
Cyrano Feb 2016 #35
KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #53
Skittles Feb 2016 #80
KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #86
Skittles Feb 2016 #117
Fumesucker Feb 2016 #79
noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #34
DrBulldog Feb 2016 #36
Cyrano Feb 2016 #40
OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #37
Cyrano Feb 2016 #44
OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #47
Cyrano Feb 2016 #50
bluedigger Feb 2016 #41
mac2766 Feb 2016 #42
Iggo Feb 2016 #43
Stinky The Clown Feb 2016 #46
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #55
Stinky The Clown Feb 2016 #59
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #61
Eko Feb 2016 #48
Cyrano Feb 2016 #60
m-lekktor Feb 2016 #57
Cyrano Feb 2016 #62
840high Feb 2016 #64
hfojvt Feb 2016 #111
LanternWaste Feb 2016 #112
flamingdem Feb 2016 #58
Cyrano Feb 2016 #63
Bonobo Feb 2016 #68
Orrex Feb 2016 #81
Bonobo Feb 2016 #82
Orrex Feb 2016 #83
Bonobo Feb 2016 #85
Orrex Feb 2016 #87
Cyrano Feb 2016 #92
Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #69
slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #71
kiva Feb 2016 #72
Aerows Feb 2016 #75
Trajan Feb 2016 #76
betsuni Feb 2016 #78
Cyrano Feb 2016 #95
Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #103
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #84
Javaman Feb 2016 #90
Phentex Feb 2016 #93
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #96
Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #98
Cyrano Feb 2016 #99
Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #102
L. Coyote Feb 2016 #100
AngryAmish Feb 2016 #101
redstatebluegirl Feb 2016 #104
Ryano42 Feb 2016 #105
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #106
CTyankee Feb 2016 #116
Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #109
trof Feb 2016 #113
librechik Feb 2016 #114
Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #115
NYC Liberal Feb 2016 #118

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:33 PM

1. I put on hip boots when I peek in over there,

 

although I don't think I have ever posted there. Most of the juries I am on are for GD: Primaries

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:37 PM

4. I'm still trying to recover

I think I could use a valium, a shot of Tequila, a warm cup of tea, and a hug.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:31 PM

22. Here's the hug.... and may I recommend "trash forum" option?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:36 PM

23. I think I'll leave the post there as a reminder

But, ohhh, thank you so much for the hug.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:26 PM

65. I trashed 3 forums

 

(See sig line) and life has been much better.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:17 AM

70. Did you see what s/he posted?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511166705


might want to read that before you give out hugs.

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Response to kath (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:35 AM

88. I did see it and

 

I don't understand your objection. That's EXACTLY what's coming for Bernie and we need to be prepared for it if he's going to be the nominee. That said, I hardly ever go to GD-P. It's a sewer.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:24 AM

91. I'm well prepared having laughed my way through the 'He's a Kenyan Muslim Marxist' administration

 

and the 'He's a rapist and his wife orders murders' administration and the 'weak pacifist' administration.

Note that Republicans attacked the faith of Obama, who sings Amazing Grace while giving very Christian eulogies and that they trashed the Christianity of Jimmy Carter, Born Again Jimmy they went after with a gusto bordering on insanity.

So where is the candidate they won't attack with idiotic tropes?
And did it really matter that they called Obama a Kenyan Muslim Marxist? He got elected twice.


So if they attack actual Christians by saying they are Muslims is there any reason to try to pick a candidate they won't denigrate using religion? Or accusations of murder? They say anything. About anyone.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:28 AM

94. That's because calling Pres Obama

 

a marxist WAS laughable. That's going to be a bit harder sell when we're dealing with a self described socialist (and lets not forget how many Americans actually DO believe he's from someplace else). I know everyone here thinks Americans will sit quietly and listen to a lesson about what a Democratic Socialist actually is but I think they're insane. Americans aren't that smart.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:33 PM

2. Bwaaaaaaahaaa, you really hit the nail on the head...n/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:36 PM

3. I said the same -- can't wait till it's over -- last week, then I said

 

After a Dem is elected, how long will the honeymoon be before the Hillary/Bernie supporters start shitting on the President? I set the OVER/UNDER at 100 days and took the UNDER.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:37 PM

5. mmmm...kittens. yummy eom

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:38 PM

6. I have hidden GD-P, Bernie and Hillary...

about a third of the "latest" page is blank, but my life is simpler.

I do peek in once and a while, but then have to bathe.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:27 PM

66. My go to is Greatest

 

and it looks much better.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:39 AM

97. Me too

Makes things much nicer here.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:38 PM

7. It's sad.

I've still not decided because I like both candidates.

But the supporters on both sides have acted horribly.

One side is worse than the other in my opinion, but that won't sway me either way.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:09 PM

39. It's a shame, because it's something many of us want to talk about

But not like that!

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Response to cwydro (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:30 PM

67. Exactly how I feel.

This is my 4th election on DU and this one is the worst by far.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:39 PM

8. You nailed it perfectly, Cyrano, with ".. isolated a "poisonous strain" n/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:40 PM

9. The Primaries forum should stay open 'til Jan 20 2017 n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:37 AM

89. After the nominee is chosen

 

it'll be changed to General Election. It will stay separate until inauguration day. At least that's what they did for 2008.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:41 PM

10. The admins should really re-open Meta for posts like this. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:08 PM

16. No, no, no... n/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:42 PM

11. Made that decision from the git-go, but it might need emphasizing!

 

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:57 PM

12. Oddly enough, I've had good luck over there.

Granted the disagreement is pretty vigorous but I've yet to be told i'm the second coming of Satan. Of course i may have just jinxed myself by posting this.....

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:17 PM

17. So, KentuckyWoman, about that jinx thing,

you shouldn't be superstitious.

After all, the Salem Witch Trials were held to root out only the guilty.

It would seem that superstition is a form of guilt and it's quite possible that you are not a witch. At least you have not yet been proven to be one.

(It's always better to confess in advance. Especially if you've been on the DU Primary Forum site.)

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:47 PM

49. Busting out laughing

I swear on a cauldron full of lizard ears that I have not been over in GD with a double wide paint brush rabble rousing.

OK - rabble rousing yes - but I left the broad brush in my other pants while I was there. AND I made sure to delouse before I came back over to the bright side.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:57 PM

13. Too many right wing trolls wanting to divide the Democratic party.

 

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Response to B Calm (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:02 PM

14. Absolutely. And so many don't recognize them.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:04 PM

15. EVERY Jury request I get is from there and I opt out them all. Cannot be bothered with that shit.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:18 PM

18. I am opting out since yesterday

because when I posted a hilarious jury result I was told it was in the wrong forum. So since I don't post there, don't select me for jury duty there.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:05 PM

27. Either there or the Hillary group or the Bernie group

I used to get tons of jury requests for the gungeon and Israel/Palenstine. But no more! It's all Hillary hate or Bernie hate all day and all night.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:04 PM

38. Same here!

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:19 AM

73. Ditto.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:19 PM

19. You could be a kitten-eating antisemite!

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:26 PM

20. Okay, I confess. I once swallowed a cat hair in Brooklyn

And we all know that "Brooklyn" is a synonym for where Jews live.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:29 PM

21. We're all working towards the same vision. That's the ironic part.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:11 PM

108. No, we're not.

 

Some want to drastically reform the Dem party, some are fine with the status quo.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:37 PM

24. Heat... kitchen... you get the point. I thought your post was shit btw.

 

There's a post in GDP that perfectly illustrates what you were doing. It goes like this:

Some people are saying your momma's a whore. I DON'T, but some people are saying it.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:55 PM

25. If Cyrano's excellent advice needed confirmation, you've damn sure provided it. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #25)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:15 PM

29. Thank you, Paladin

I had no civil reply, but you provided one.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:34 PM

45. Some of the reactions were harsh but you have to take some responsibility for your post.

Just because Republicans will call Bernie a communist Jew does not mean he should not get the nomination. Hillary will get called plenty of horrible names by the Republicans if she is the nominee. Any Democratic nominee will get called horrible names. After all they called Obama a socialist Muslim. If we base our vote on what the Republicans will call the nominee we might as well not vote at all.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #45)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:55 PM

51. I won't re-litigate here,

but I have two things to say:

1. You're in the wrong forum.

2. Oy.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #51)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:56 PM

52. Just sayin. You're not completely innocent here.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #52)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:20 PM

54. You win. I'm not a virgin.

And I don't have a Christ complex

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #54)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:22 PM

56. Then why complain when getting called out on it?

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:27 AM

74. Because he lost the debate?

 

And was pointed out to be just stirring it up?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:10 PM

107. just to be clear

you meant this post http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1166705

and NOT the OP you are replying to.

Winning the election is kind of important though. It's rather naive to think the S-word and by implication the C-word are not going to be played.

That's enough to stop me from supporting Bernie. I do NOT think my party can afford to tie itself to the S-word.

It does though also remind me of what the Hillary camp did in 2008. Circulated a bunch of rightwing attacks at Obama - as a reason to support Clinton. Truly, I was afraid that the racism of this country would hurt us down-ticket in 2008. And I was wrong about that. In reality, it was my guy Edwards who would have imploded in the general, having been exposed as a schmuck.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #107)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:36 PM

110. Correct.

 

Go Bernie!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:58 PM

26. It is not for the faint-hearted

However, there are good people on each side.....try to focus on them.

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Response to Bjornsdotter (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:24 PM

33. I think there's some real hate over there

Bernie and Hillary/or/ Hillary and Bernie don't hate each other.

They are staying civil, I believe they respect each other, and whichever one gets the nomination will be supported by the other.

I don't believe the same is true about the insanity that has infected far too many who are posting on the DU Primary Forum. It is not a healthy place.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:08 AM

77. OK, now I realize what OP you put up in GD-P

That technique has a hell of a sordid history in GD-P, you may have engaged in that in all innocence but at this point no one is going to give you the benefit of the doubt, it's happened too many times.

That was like starting a circumcision thread in GD and then acting innocent when it turns into a flame war.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:12 PM

28. The irony, yes there is irony,

 

Is that whoever gets elected will not change things to the land of hope and unicorns. But shh...don't tell them...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:16 PM

30. I found out the hard way. I posted something directly

related to the primaries and it was locked.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:16 PM

31. LOL!

Yup... it's a cesspool. I stay away. It's amazing to me how nasty people are in that forum.

I stay away. I cannot stomach it.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:18 PM

32. As a reader more than a writer

Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:34 PM - Edit history (2)

As a reader more than a writer, I'd say this forum is just as bad.

And your definition of "sane Democrats (who) have lost their minds" is definitely much more narrow than mine.

But you go around calling Sanders a commie Jew, then you'll get what's coming to you.

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Response to BKH70041 (Reply #32)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:42 PM

35. I've been on DU for almost 14 years and

I don't ever recall the ongoing venom that is taking place in that forum.

There has, of course, been some ugliness in DU General Discussion. But never to the degree that can be witnessed today in the DU Primary Forum.

Your observation that this forum is "just as bad" seems misguided to me. Given the thousands of threads here, there are of course some in which people throw garbage at each other. However, the same can't be said of the Primary Forum in which most threads turn into shit fights in the monkey house.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:02 PM

53. 2008 got pretty rough.

My late sister, DUer SmileyRose, had just started the first round of chemo when things were really heating up in late 2007. She asked me log in under her name and just sit and read her some of the posts over the phone when she was too tired to read.

I remember some very ugly exchanges but back then it was mods on an old version of DU. I remember A LOT of pizza

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:02 AM

80. I remember SmileyRose

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Response to Skittles (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:18 AM

86. SMILE

I do. Feel VERY fortunate she was in my life. Besides. She was funny as hell.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #86)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:50 PM

117. ...



I always wanted a sister (I got five brothers)

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:18 AM

79. I've been on DU for a bit longer with some gaps... I've never seen people care so much

I think the Bernie/Hillary divide at the moment is by far the most important thing that has happened in politics since at least Reagan and maybe back to Nixon.

That is what is inspiring the passion you see.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:39 PM

34. Thanks for the heads up

I don't know if I've posted there or not. I usually just bring up latest threads and post in threads that interest me. I really haven't paid attention where the threads are located but I guess I need to start watching because I somehow posted in a Hillary group thread and got an email telling me I was banned from the group? (didn't know there was one). Someone had posted a list of endorsements she had gotten from other politicians so I said: But she's not the "establishment" candidate, right? lol I thought it was funny but evidently they didn't.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:59 PM

36. DU has become a really sissified place to post.

 

Posters are "classified" and isolated into exclusive Bernie and Hillary groups here on the basis of some political obsessive's opinion and are thereafter not permitted to post across groups. Thus there is no debate, no rebuttal. So I spend most of my time in grown-up places such as huff post and facebook where such division nonsense is not allowed to occur.

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Response to DrBulldog (Reply #36)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:10 PM

40. Right now, you're in General Discussion

and there are no "sides" here. You can say virtually anything you want to say and there are those who agree or disagree.

What I've posted here refers to the DU Primary Forum where people spend their days throwing dung at each other.

Please don't judge all of Democratic Underground by that forum, or by forums that are dedicated only to Hillary, or only to Bernie.

There ain't no "classifications" here in General Discussion. Stick around for a while and stay out of the "exclusive" clubs.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:02 PM

37. You act as if you posted something totally benign and inoffensive.

Don't place the blame solely on others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511166705

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Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:31 PM

44. OrwellwasRight has linked to the post

that I put onto the "hate forum" earlier today. The one that my OP here is discussing. (Please, read it and make up your own mind as to my being an antisemitic piece of shit who eats kittens and babies.)

Dear OrwellwasRight:

I have no problem with my OP to which you've provided a link. My problem is with the far too many accusations and displays of hatred it produced. I find it intriguing that you decided to cause the shit from that forum to overflow into this relatively sane forum. Your doing so serves to make my point regarding the fanaticism that dwells over there.

Regards,

Cyrano

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #44)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:35 PM

47. Your blaming of others continues.

Some might call your original post "hateful" rather than blame the forum. But please, continue to blame me and others and take no opportunity to re-examine your own actions or think about the role you may have played in eliciting such responses.

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Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #47)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:51 PM

50. Okay. I'll eat another kitten while I'm "re-examining"

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:17 PM

41. So you have no defense for these accusations?

I'd like to think the best of you, and I do think kittens are overrated, so...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:17 PM

42. You seem to be...

 

"An antisemitic, communist piece of shit, or a wingnut infiltrator who hates humans and eats kittens."

Just kidding. .. that was a direct quote from the OP... don't kill me for quoting the OP. I realize some folks have thin skin, and/or no sense of humor.

The insanity is getting to me.

Democratic Underground.. a place for liberals to meet and share ideas and concerns.....

NOT

Seems to me to be a place for people to argue with each other.

I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter and will vote for him in the primaries, and definitely in the general election... BUT!!!!! If Hillary wins the nomination, I will gladly vote for a person who absolutely... ABSOLUTELY!!!! deserves our respect. She doesn't represent me EXACTLY as much as Bernie does, but she will be my candidate come the general election if she does, indeed, win the nomination. I just don't think she will.

Go Bernie. (No disrespect meant for Hillary Clinton.)

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:29 PM

43. Meta!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:35 PM

46. Meanwhile, just try to discuss primary-related topics out in GD.

I tried to discuss the MEDIA as it related to the primaries. Carefully crafted the post so as not to favor one candidate or another and BAM. A host locked it told me to take it to GDP.

FUCK GDP. Its a sewer. A cesspool. So not only is it a place you don't want to go, it limits discussion elsewhere. That's pretty fucked up.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #46)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:21 PM

55. The hosts locked a post

 

with a clip of a low budget movie with Sanders from the 1990s that had not one thing to do with politics

Nuts

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #55)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:29 PM

59. Overzealousness without oversight.

Nobody to appeal to. Questions sit unanswered in ATA. No judges. Just Lock! Bam! Thank You Man!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #59)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:30 PM

61. yup

 

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:44 PM

48. I cant help it though.

It's like watching the Hindenburg burn. Insane but beautiful in its insanity.

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Response to Eko (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:30 PM

60. You bet. See posts #24 and #47

These are people who are transferring my one-time-post from "The Hate Forum" to here.

I guess they find fun in spreading the fire.

"Oh, the humanity."

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:26 PM

57. sorry but, "we can't elect Bernie because he is a jew and republicans will mock him" is

a pretty fucked up thing to post. I can't believe so many clueless DUers just took your word for it and liked this post!

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:40 PM

62. Nice try, but those aren't my words

Here's the link, DUers. Read my post and all the replies you can stomach.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511166705

And then you can tell me about "a pretty fucked up thing to post."

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #62)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:59 PM

64. The replies were ok. Your OP was not.

 

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:43 PM

111. actually the replies were not that bad

before you posted this thread.

Some of the replies after this thread have been worse.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:47 PM

112. the most convenient way in the universe to cower behind implication.

 

"those aren't my words..." is the most convenient way in the universe to cower behind implication.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:27 PM

58. Enjoy it while it lasts, twill be over soon enough nt

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #58)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:47 PM

63. You bet.

Shakespeare's Julius Caesar said: "Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange, that death, being a necessary end, will come when it will come."

So I guess we all have to enjoy it while it lasts. "...twill be over soon enough nt"

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:43 PM

68. Wow, imagine ANYONE being offended by posting our candidate is a "Commie Jew"!

I am shocked at how poisonous that place is!

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:50 AM

81. Please provide a link to that post

I will be happy to attack the ignorant asshole who made such a fucked up and hateful comment.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:52 AM

82. Sure.

It was posted, by the OP of this thread, with the now common "What will we do when the Republicans call him XXXX" refrain.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1166705

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:30 AM

83. That's not the same thing at all

I posted a similar question in April 2015, in fact, and I most certainly was not calling Sanders "a commie Jew." Neither is Cyrano.

Why is the question off limits? Republicans will absolutely attack him in exactly that way, either directly or via dog whistles, and it's naive to imagine that they won't. Likewise, it's foolish to pretend that a dignified silence will be a sufficient response those idiotic accusations.

Sanders' supporters post hateful, vitriolic attacks on Clinton day in and day out, eagerly doing the GOPs dirty work for them, but that's ok for some reason--even on DU's front page. But when someone questions Sanders' readiness to withstand the forthcoming GOP attack, it's declared unacceptable.

And before anyone objects that the attacks on Sanders are baseless or irrelevantly personal, we should recall that Sanders' supporters have already cited Whitewater, Vince Foster & Monica Lewinsky as problems that Clinton must address.

In short, asking about a near-certain GOP tactic is absolutely not the same as calling Sanders "a commie Jew."

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Response to Orrex (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:01 AM

85. Gimme a break. nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #85)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:24 AM

87. cogent

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Response to Orrex (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:25 AM

92. Thank you, Orrex

Thanks for taking the time to read my post in that forum, and thanks for recognizing it for what it was: It's an attack the Republicans will most certainly use against Bernie if he is our nominee.

Many of the responses over there were just unanswerable. When someone says "You eat dog shit," it's impossible to prove that you don't. ("Proving a negative, etc."

Some of them have not let up and have followed me over here to make their grievances known to all. And to make sure that everyone knows that "Cyrano eats Jewish babies."

I will never again post on that forum. Too many DUers who post there seem to have lost any and all sense of reality.

And once again, thank you for understanding what I was actually saying.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:07 AM

69. You just haven't gotten the hang of it yet...

 

Put the most snarky and prolific posters from the other side on "ignore" and let those with more fortitude respond to them. Then pick and choose from the remaining replies to your OP, based on whether it's civil enough and important enough (to you) to respond to.

Piece of cake!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:51 AM

71. "So when Republicans call Bernie a "Communist Jew,"

what do we do?

If Bernie is our candidate, you just know that "Communist Jew" will be a major weapon in their arsenal of sleaze and hatred.

They'll be direct about the Communist part and label him as a "Marxist," "Stalinist," "Totalitarian," "Anti-American," "Weirdo," etc.

They'll have to be more subtle with the "Jew" part and use stuff like "New York values," "He's from Brooklyn," plus a whole new mountain of antisemitic slurs that we can't even begin to imagine. They are masters at labeling someone "The Other."


So your first post in GDP was about Sanders being labeled a communist Jew by the other party and how we deal with it? And then you had some backlash.

Surprise, surprise!

You could have had your first post in GDP about the thousands, tens of thousands of children that have been killed by cluster bombs or during the invasion of Iraq, but instead you went right for the Communist Jew and had some push back and then run to this forum to complain.

Doubt you even understand why your post was offensive.






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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:01 AM

72. I don't know,

I think it's more civil than it was in 2008...I wasn't here in 2004, but hear that was also ugly.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:34 AM

75. I think most people are capable of being

 

reasonable and civil.

You don't click on GD-P and become a stark raving lunatic unless you were one before you clicked on it.

We *DO* need to be more kind to each other.

That is something that I think we need to remind each other of - we aren't enemies just because we have a difference of opinion on candidates. I trust that most DUers are decent people that have strong opinions, and would give you the shirt off of their back if necessary.

This is a fine community of people.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:48 AM

76. Well .... You are rather dramatic ...

 

I hope a fainting couch is nearby ....

Tell you what ... when this all blows over, I'll unblock ...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:13 AM

78. It was this: "Hillary is the safer bet" in your post that got you in trouble.

This makes you a "Hillarian," the enemy. You are not who you say you are, your words twisted into diabolical hidden meanings. No matter how many times you insist you support Bernie and just want to discuss the campaigns, it is in vain. You are a monster, they the victims of your vicious attacks, you monster. At this point it can't even be taken personally, it's just what happens every day on the Internet. (It's not both sides -- most Democrats who do not care to be insulted prefer to tease, mock, post links refuting falsehoods, or ignore -- that's not offense, it's defense.)

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Response to betsuni (Reply #78)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:32 AM

95. You're probably right, betsuni

My "Hillary is the safer bet" probably triggered the "feeding frenzy."

I should have known better than to have posted there in the first place. But, who knew?

Well, now I know. It's a really ugly forum that needs to be avoided.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #95)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:07 AM

103. The logic you use tells me that if a LGBT person was candidate you'd say 'the Straight is the safer

 

bet'. Which means that you would use the identity of the LGBT candidate against them by claiming it is 'what the bad guys will say, so I'm saying it first'. A person like me would never get the support of a Party driven by reactive fear of what Republicans might say about their candidates. So you particular brand of panic is very dubious and a huge red flag. Not red like those commies of yours, red like a warning of danger ahead.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:38 AM

84. Agreed

Fucking place saddens me.

I like both our candidates (and I liked M'OM). It's the fanbois and fangirls who stink out loud.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:18 AM

90. it's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:27 AM

93. I like it because...

it keeps some of the crap out of GD.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:36 AM

96. I hate that place with burning passion. Hate it.

9 times out of 10 if I'm called to jury duty on an alert, it's from GD: P, and it's always some supporter of one candidate overreacting to criticism from some supporter of the other candidate.

I'm this close to the whole Hide Forum thing on it.

Even worse is when someone tries to bring their little shit fight on here.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:40 AM

98. It's OPs in GDP like your own that make it so vitriolic, you indulge in vile rhetoric by claiming it

 

is your 'concern' that Republicans will say those things. Gee, Republicans call Obama a Marxist Kenyan Muslim. So the fuck what? Barack and Jimmy Carter are both very Christian men and both were attacked by the Republicans.

Can you explain to me what it is so different in your eyes with Bernie? What if they call Hillary the murderer of Vince Foster and a militant extremist? Oh, that's right they already did that. What if they call Bill a rapist and Hillary his co dependent accomplice? They already did that.

So what is the basis for your claim that only Bernie can be attacked by them and only because he's Jewish? Born Again Jimmy got no mercy....

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #98)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:49 AM

99. You know what. I'm really sick of this shit.

Fling all the crap you want to. I'm done defending myself against baseless allegations that come from people who have lost any and all sense of objective reality.

Adieu.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #99)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:03 AM

102. Characterizing me does not bother me, it's what you do to avoid addressing the points I made or

 

answering the questions I asked. They bashed Obama as a Marxist Muslim from Kenya. But you say it is different with Bernie? They called Hillary a radical feminist friend to militant homosexuals before Bill got elected. They smear, that's who they are. It does not have to be who we are, nor who you are.

And what Republicans might say does not rule my world. Why does your fear of them rule yours?

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:01 AM

100. I'm getting tired of jury duty, all juries that vote unanimously Leave it,

because the little children had an argument.
The average age may not be eligible to vote over there!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:01 AM

101. Let's dismiss once and for all the Myth that you should not post in GD:P.

 

You know exactly what you are doing by posting there.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:11 AM

104. I guess I have a short memory but

was it this bad when Clinton and Obama were running in the primary? Both sides have some really nasty people out there. All of this hate and nastiness is hard on the soul. We are Democrats, we hate Republicans not each other.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:21 AM

105. With GD:P in the Trash Can DU is again a wonderful place...

Positive comments about the candidates in their forums, an occasional cogent discussion about the issues...

Minimal Monkey Rodeos...it great!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:50 AM

106. I recently trashed the forum, after posting there for a long time.

It has come to be too ugly.
IMHO, people are there to war against those they disagree with them rather than find information.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #106)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 05:14 PM

116. I finally came to the conclusion that my sanity would be preserved if I trashed a couple

groups (Men and pro-gun). That took care of LOTS of it. So I did a real paddywhack for my mental health. I also started with Ignore (which I hadn't done before) and it was glorious. I was not confronted by assholes every day. Life is more pleasant. I think of it as my home and how I wouldn't accept behavior of some folks here if they were my guests at my home.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:18 PM

109. I trashed it almost immediately.

 

"...wretched hive of scum and villainy..."

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:03 PM

113. Ain't it funny. I posted a very similar thread a couple of weeks ago. Locked.

Disrespecting DU or some such.
I guess it depends on who's 'hosting' at a particular time.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:06 PM

114. you don't have to tell me

I can smell Darth Vader's foul stench from seven parsecs away.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:33 PM

115. I venture over there from time to time just to see

who I should add to my ignore list...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:50 AM

118. Locking.

Per the Statement of Purpose for this forum:
Discuss politics, issues, and current events. Posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports are restricted in this forum. Posts about the Democratic primaries, conspiracy theories and disruptive meta-discussion are forbidden.

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