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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:00 PM Feb 2016

Peyton Manning’s squeaky-clean image was built on lies, as detailed in explosive court documents sho

Peyton Manning’s squeaky-clean image was built on lies, as detailed in explosive court documents showing ugly smear campaign against his alleged sex assault victim
Less than 24 hours later, a source who claimed to see my article on the racial double standard, sent me a 74-page court document from Polk County court in Florida. Sitting in the San Francisco airport, waiting for a flight home, I opened the PDF, began reading, and felt like I had stumbled on to state secrets. I literally moved to where nobody could see my computer screen.

While Peyton Manning is not the president of the United States, in a land where football is king, he is the Captain America of sports and certainly one of the best quarterbacks of all time. He's also a prolific pitchman, the friendly face of several multi-billion dollar corporations.

This document says, in essence, that it's all a facade, an act, a well-designed for-profit creation, maintained and manicured at all cost. For me, it was like reading proof that the first Apollo moon landing was really a fictional tale filmed in a Hollywood studio designed to dupe us all. That flag, planted in the moon, seemingly blowing in the wind, was a ruse after all. Maybe B.o.B. was right on this one fact.

I read every single page in the airport before I boarded my flight. Maybe a good hundred times, I wondered to myself, Why — and how — had all of this been kept secret for so long?

Titled "Facts of the Case," and submitted to the court by the plaintiff's lawyers, the document, which warrants many more takes and reflections than what I will offer today, is simultaneously shocking, disgusting, painful, and infuriating. It offers us the living, breathing human names and faces of the individuals the American sports machine is willing to mow down in the name of profit and

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395

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Peyton Manning’s squeaky-clean image was built on lies, as detailed in explosive court documents sho (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 OP
The fact that Payton Manning is a piece of shit does not make Cam Newton any less of one tularetom Feb 2016 #1
Why is Cam a POS? marmar Feb 2016 #3
As a rule, I'm not a fan of arrogant assholes tularetom Feb 2016 #9
You obviously know absolutely NOTHING about Cam Newton. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #12
I know what I see tularetom Feb 2016 #13
Well, you've admitted you know nothing other than what you've gleaned from four playoff games. Maedhros Feb 2016 #78
Agreed randys1 Feb 2016 #27
Do you know anything about him? cwydro Feb 2016 #64
And you just told a bunch of whoppers! Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #69
Bullshit. cwydro Feb 2016 #71
Where is your proof? Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #72
Lol, no, I do not hate Cam Newton. cwydro Feb 2016 #73
I have the advantage of an inside source. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #74
Ooooh! "An inside source." cwydro Feb 2016 #75
I doubt the author of The White Man's Burden and the Jungle Book is a big influence on Cam. LeftyMom Feb 2016 #81
I thought Von MIller was Cam's biggest problem. Drahthaardogs Feb 2016 #85
Because he's retiring. Brickbat Feb 2016 #4
Cam and Brady apologists unite! n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #6
Brady? He's worse than both of them tularetom Feb 2016 #10
Oh, I agree ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #15
Rather have a lukewarm-GOP-supporting football deflater Arkana Feb 2016 #51
Of course he is sharp_stick Feb 2016 #18
go to young turks. THey discuss it in detail. He's got an AA problem, he hates gay people and he's roguevalley Feb 2016 #77
Who Are You Talking About erpowers Feb 2016 #79
I hate drop does. it's Manning I am speaking of roguevalley Feb 2016 #83
Apollo landing really a fictional tale filmed in Hollywood? lunatica Feb 2016 #2
That was a popular conspiracy theory Greybnk48 Feb 2016 #11
Meh - Shaun King pintobean Feb 2016 #5
Forget Shaun King. There's an affidavit. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #22
We must indeed, quickly dismiss and minimize the existence of the sworn affidavit LanternWaste Feb 2016 #38
We? pintobean Feb 2016 #41
It wasn't Shaun King that did it for me. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #48
It's the NFL sarisataka Feb 2016 #7
Then why do players get suspended for HGH NobodyHere Feb 2016 #65
He once "mooned" the other teams fans from the team bus SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #8
Dancing after a touchdown is way worse Alenne Feb 2016 #14
Not a fan of Manning Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #16
So I can say a heartfelt FU to all the Brady haters? RiffRandell Feb 2016 #17
No. Tom Brady has a child out of wedlock. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #21
So having a child "out of wedlock" makes Brady a POS? maveric Feb 2016 #23
It just means he ain't no all-American choirboy, either. DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #24
What about Bridget? RiffRandell Feb 2016 #26
Why didn't Brady wear a condom? DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #30
Because SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #32
Touche! Love it! DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #33
So you are blaming the woman and the man for having RiffRandell Feb 2016 #35
They Were Dating erpowers Feb 2016 #82
Has Her Own Money erpowers Feb 2016 #80
No fucking shit! RiffRandell Feb 2016 #25
It's a problem if Cam Newton does it, apparently ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #55
Didn't Brady wheniwasincongress Feb 2016 #63
Dude's crazy.... TipTok Feb 2016 #76
Didn't he knock up two women at the same time? madinmaryland Feb 2016 #28
Yeah, that never happens! RiffRandell Feb 2016 #36
Who is Peyton Manning? hunter Feb 2016 #19
I didn't know until a few weeks ago. Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #45
Entitled scumbag. nt B2G Feb 2016 #20
Now, now OldHippieChick Feb 2016 #29
Damn abelenkpe Feb 2016 #31
Imagine if a black QB like Cam Newton had done this. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #34
I've read the entire document, and apparently, Rollo wanted her to blame it on a black player. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #37
Did you ever make a really dumb mistake while in college? GummyBearz Feb 2016 #39
I thought this too, and then I read the documents and how her career was ruined and ... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #40
He's always seemed like an extreme phony to me. HuckleB Feb 2016 #42
I confess, when I first heard of it, I thought it was a bit much. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #43
You must have stopped reading the article Oilwellian Feb 2016 #59
LOL... Folks still believe in "squeaky clean" athletes? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #44
I don't know what you mean by "haters" here. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #47
I'm not accusing you... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #49
For me, it has nothing to do with King and everything to do with the documents. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #50
And I while I maintain Manning deserves the criticism coming his way Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #54
I hate his guts. I don't follow sports at all but Manning is all over the commercial world and Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #46
I live in Indy & he damn near walks on water ... Myrina Feb 2016 #70
Manning is an insufferable corporate whore and an absolute phoney. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #52
"Titled "Facts of the Case," and submitted to the court by the plaintiff's lawyers" jberryhill Feb 2016 #53
That was my thought too. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #67
I always liked Eli better anyway. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #56
Archie Manning (dad) tried to smear the trainer by claiming she was bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #57
And not surprisingly, it turns out King was sloppy and slanted in his work Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #58
You posted nothing but smears of Shaun King Oilwellian Feb 2016 #60
So Florio is wrong? Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #87
As usual. /nt pintobean Feb 2016 #61
I Always Cringe When People SDJay Feb 2016 #62
in some ways the article is funny hfojvt Feb 2016 #66
If true, it is sexual assault mrs_p Feb 2016 #86
The question is whether Manning's reputation should be stellar Major Nikon Feb 2016 #95
we clearly have several fundamental disagreements hfojvt Feb 2016 #96
So having someone's anus forced into your face is the same as getting poked in the belly by a finger Major Nikon Feb 2016 #97
It's written by her lawyer in a lawsuit against Manning. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #68
How many times does Manning have to be busted for lying, before his "side" becomes irrelevant? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #84
You've just verified about half of my opinion on this case. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #88
Paid Off? ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #89
Thank you for being the semantics police. I'll stick with "paid off." NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #90
You Don't Need Semantics Lessons ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #94
Very well said. The besmirching of this woman has reached epic levels... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #92
It's very telling when someone completely reverses the relationship between perpetrator and victim Major Nikon Feb 2016 #93
He was a piece of shit then, and he's still a piece of shit Major Nikon Feb 2016 #91

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. The fact that Payton Manning is a piece of shit does not make Cam Newton any less of one
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:10 PM
Feb 2016

I have no doubt that every word in that article is true. But why is it coming out now?

It's deflection.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. As a rule, I'm not a fan of arrogant assholes
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:34 PM
Feb 2016

At least Manning may have an excuse. In his case it's genetic. If you read the article, you will learn that his father is also a piece of shit.

I generally don't follow the NFL until the playoffs start, so my exposure to Newton was very limited until this year. Nevertheless, I wasn't impressed with what I saw.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
78. Well, you've admitted you know nothing other than what you've gleaned from four playoff games.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

One should generally refrain from calling another person a "piece of shit" based upon such a limited understanding of the person.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
64. Do you know anything about him?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

His cheating in college (on more than one occasion)?

He stole a laptop.

He had to leave school to go to a second tier college because of all his issues.

Hey, I'm a Panther fan - but St. Cam he ain't.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
69. And you just told a bunch of whoppers!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

He purchased a used laptop for $160.00 that was stolen from some guy selling stuff out of his car to college kids. The charges were changed, Cam was suspended for the balance of the 2008 season, and back on the team for the beginning of 2009. He was not forced to go JUCO by Florida. His father had him transfer to JUCO AFTER Tim Tebow announced he would not turn pro and instead return for the next season, meaning Cam would again be his backup. Cam's father wanted him away from all the stuff going on in Gainsville and also wanted him to get a season of game experience before transferring to another FBS school. Cam made a stupid freshman mistake and turned into a model citizen at JUCO, at Auburn, and at Carolina. He has raised millions for kid's charities, started the practice of inviting cancer stricken kids to workouts, and giving balls to kids after touchdowns.

Cam's biggest problem is that he is intense, driven, and hates losing. It gets the best of him sometimes but will probably improve as he ages and gets more experience.

I don't know him personally, but I know people who do. They tell me nothing but positives about him. I've met him exactly once back in 2010 and had no clue who he was. He was a relatively unknown then. I thought he was a basketball player, and didn't realized he was a football player until the beginning of the 2010 college season when I recognized that face and smile on the TV.

Edit to Add: There was zero evidence of him cheating at Florida. That was a bunch of rumors started by a Fox News sports shit stirrer named Thayer Evans. The same Thayer Evans that beat the hell out of his ex-wife. That's some source.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
71. Bullshit.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:19 PM
Feb 2016

He got caught cheating.

He didn't leave school for nothing. He took a "first offenders" way out of his theft charges, so that's nonsense that he didn't do it. He's admitted to his mistakes in interviews.

And he acted like a four-year old when he lost the Super Bowl. Dignity is important when losing. He should be introduced to Rudyard Kipling's poem "If", but I doubt it would mean much to him.

No worries, we here in Charlotte support him. I just don't ignore the bad things.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
72. Where is your proof?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:44 PM
Feb 2016

He was in procession of a stolen computer. He didn't steal it, he bought it from someone who stole it. That guy was the one eventually tied up with theft charges. My source in Gainsville told all about that guy going around selling stolen items to college kids. There is zero proof of him being kicked out of school for cheating. Just the stories (rumors) first printed by Thayer Evans the wife beater and then spread by the rest of the media. Show me the paper work stating that he was kicked out of school. Urban Meyer, Florida head coach at the time, said he was just suspended from play and football practice for the balance of the 2008 season and was back on the team January, 2009.

You just hate Cam Newton and plan on continuing to support the media trashing of him by claiming every single nasty story about him is gospel.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
73. Lol, no, I do not hate Cam Newton.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:53 PM
Feb 2016

I've got a jersey with his number.

I'm a fan. But I'm not blind to the assholery of football players.

Hey, if you want proof of his issues -google is your friend. Why did he go into the "first time offender program/" Come on dude.

When I was in college, I was a tutor for football players. Remedial English and Math. Believe me, they are not pillars of society. One of my "pupils" was accused of rape while I was there.

There are none so blind who cannot see.

Smh.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
74. I have the advantage of an inside source.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

A very intelligent cool head that's in the know, not some media hack writing stories with anonyomous sources making claims that can't be proven. There is a big difference between stealing stuff and buying something that was stolen. Cam wasn't the only college kid in Gainesville that bought something that was stolen. There was a rash of that shit going on in Gainesville at the time. In fact, the Florida football team from 2008 to 2011 was slowing spinning out of control even though they managed a championship in 2008. Aaron Hernandez and his gang was there then, and he was causing his fair share of problems. Newton's father took his son out of school, he was not kicked out, to get him away from that and get him in a situation where he could start, play football and be a regular student without all that crap around him.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
75. Ooooh! "An inside source."
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:20 PM
Feb 2016

Lmao.

Here in Charlotte, most of the fans know the truth about Cam's troubled college career.

We don't deny it; we still like what he's brought to our team.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
81. I doubt the author of The White Man's Burden and the Jungle Book is a big influence on Cam.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:36 PM
Feb 2016

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
15. Oh, I agree
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

But some buttlicker who wrote a book about Manning and Brady wuvs him some Tooooomy and says what a nice guy Tom is and how can you argue when he supports The Donald and gives Jamie Dimon Valentines.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
51. Rather have a lukewarm-GOP-supporting football deflater
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

than a guy who rapes women.

At least Brady didn't hurt anyone.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
18. Of course he is
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:45 PM
Feb 2016

What an informative post, all that supportive evidence you supply leaves little room for doubt that you are a real expert on the topic.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
77. go to young turks. THey discuss it in detail. He's got an AA problem, he hates gay people and he's
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

a dick. Period.

erpowers

(9,445 posts)
79. Who Are You Talking About
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

I realize you replied to the Cam and Brady Supports Unite post, but I am not sure who you are talking about. Are you talking about Newton, Brady, or Manning? I would like to look at the Young Turks video about whoever you are talking about. You do not have to link to the video. The name of the person you are talking about would be fine.

Greybnk48

(10,724 posts)
11. That was a popular conspiracy theory
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

back in the 70's. My grandfather-in-law with a 3rd grade education believed it fully.

DinahMoeHum

(23,606 posts)
22. Forget Shaun King. There's an affidavit. . .
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

. . .in the NY Daily News link (scroll to the bottom) and this link below:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2712091/Factsofthecase.pdf

Let the document speak for itself.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. We must indeed, quickly dismiss and minimize the existence of the sworn affidavit
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

We must indeed, quickly dismiss and minimize the existence of the sworn affidavit by trivializing the publication rather than the substance quickly before our bias becomes too confused.

We completely understand your prediction for floral colored spectacles.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
48. It wasn't Shaun King that did it for me.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

It was the testimony of the victim and the dozens of athletes and colleagues who supported her.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
7. It's the NFL
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

Do you think even if true they will do anything?

Players could be roiding up during pre-game interviews and there wouldn't be any consequences.

Alenne

(1,932 posts)
14. Dancing after a touchdown is way worse
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

Than teabagging a female trainer and trying to ruin her life. Manning is classy, don't you know, except when he isn't. Now we can all go back to discussing how "arrogant" Cam Newton is.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
17. So I can say a heartfelt FU to all the Brady haters?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

Nah, of course I won't unless SHIT IS PROVEN.

DinahMoeHum

(23,606 posts)
21. No. Tom Brady has a child out of wedlock. . .
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Feb 2016

. . .courtesy of actress Bridget Moynihan; and there is NO disputing it.
It is documented fact.

Few, if any of the top QBs in the NFL are choirboys.

As a NY Giants fan, I don't even know about Eli. For all I know, there's a skeleton in his closet as well.

DinahMoeHum

(23,606 posts)
30. Why didn't Brady wear a condom?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

Cuts both ways, ya know. Hell, he could've ended up with an STD.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
35. So you are blaming the woman and the man for having
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

a child out of wedlock?

Really, really lame.

She could have ended up with one too, if she didn't already have one.

See how that works?

I don't blame either of them as you are but hell, she could've ended up with an STD.

Instead it seems like they ended up with a beautiful boy!

erpowers

(9,445 posts)
82. They Were Dating
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

Tom Brady did not have a one night stand with Bridgette Monyahan. The two were dating for a few years, but broke up. Shortly after Brady and Monyahan announced their split, Brady started dating Giselle Bunchan, who he later married and later had two kids. Around the time Brady started dating Bunchan it was revealed that Monyahan was pregnant with Brady's child.

erpowers

(9,445 posts)
80. Has Her Own Money
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

Bridgette Monyahan was already a famous actress before she dated Tom Brady. She is currently one of the main characters on the show Blue Bloods. She has been on that show since it began and it has been on for a few years.

hunter

(40,690 posts)
19. Who is Peyton Manning?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:07 PM
Feb 2016


My life as a hermit.

Nah, I knew he was a football player, not that I'd recognize his face, but it goes to show that racism and misogyny are alive and well in the U.S.A., especially in big money circles.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
45. I didn't know until a few weeks ago.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:43 PM
Feb 2016

My fiancee adores him because she's a football nut ( I fucking hate all sports ) and he's got this wholesome, clean-cut image.

I hate him because he's squeaky clean and has a wholesome clean-cut image.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,453 posts)
34. Imagine if a black QB like Cam Newton had done this.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

He would be run totally out of the USA for fear of his life or be put in prison.

On Feb. 29 of that year, Naughright, at that point the university's director of health and wellness, was in a training room, examining what she thought might be a possible stress fracture in Manning's foot. At 6 feet, 5 inches, his feet dangled off the edge of the table. Manning allegedly then proceeded to scoot down the training table while Naughright examined his foot. At that point, she said, he forcefully maneuvered his naked testicles and rectum directly on her face with his penis on top of her head. Shocked, disgusted, and offended, Naughright pushed Manning away, removing her head out from under him (see pages 14-15). Within hours, she reported the incident to the Sexual Assault Crisis Center in Knoxville (see page 18).

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
37. I've read the entire document, and apparently, Rollo wanted her to blame it on a black player.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:45 PM
Feb 2016
 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
39. Did you ever make a really dumb mistake while in college?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:01 PM
Feb 2016

I did... I know many people who did. I believe what this trainer says is true. I also know she settled out of court on the matter. He fucked up, he paid a price for it. Why do you feel the need to cast stone?

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
40. I thought this too, and then I read the documents and how her career was ruined and ...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

...nope. This isn't a "dumb mistake."

I have always respected Peyton as one of the good guys (even when they were killing Favre's Packers), pulled for him to win the Super Bowl this time. Can't do that anymore.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
42. He's always seemed like an extreme phony to me.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

Alas, this does not shock me, and no, it's not just a "dumb mistake."

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
43. I confess, when I first heard of it, I thought it was a bit much.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:21 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think that now, after reading the documents. This was a respected woman with many people: black, white, athletes and not, supporting her. I've never been able to stand Archie, who I think has pumped up his own image, but I thought Peyton was different.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
59. You must have stopped reading the article
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:38 PM
Feb 2016

Peyton and his daddy destroyed her career:

On May 16th, 2001, Naughright returned to Florida after accompanying her students on an educational and medical trip to South Africa. When she arrived at her office, she found a large manilla envelope in a receptacle on her door with the words "Dr. Vulgar Mouth Whited" printed on it (see page 1). Whited was Naughright's married name for most of her time at the University of Tennessee. She was immediately disturbed. Other employees testified that the envelope had been there for a few days before she arrived home from South Africa.

In it, were Xerox copies from some type of publication. It appeared to be written by Peyton Manning and it was about her. Colleagues who saw her after opening it testified that she was shaken up by what she read. Manning and his father, Archie, had written a book called "The Mannings" and perhaps wanting to put their stamp on the incident in Knoxville before it ever reached the public, they threw Naughright under bus.

Her supervisor at Florida Southern had already opened the envelope and read what was in it. What Manning said about her ruined her career at Florida Southern and in college athletics once and for all. After years of amazing reviews and great work at the university, the controversy from the book and the stress it created eventually caused Dr. Jamie Naughright to be let go, once again, for doing nothing wrong.

It appears that Peyton and Archie Manning thought Naughright would accept what they did to her quietly. They were wrong. This time, she did file suit against Peyton Manning, Archie Manning, the ghostwriter John Underwood, and the publisher Harper Collins. Manning and his lawyers asked for the case to be dismissed, but Polk County Circuit Judge Harvey A. Kornstein not only denied the motion but put Peyton Manning, his father, and the others on blast. In his statement, he said:

"Even if the plaintiff is a public figure, the evidence of record contains sufficient evidence to satisfy the court that a genuine issue of material fact exists that would allow a jury to find, by clear and convincing evidence, the existence of actual malice of the part of the defendants.


(snip)

To his father, he concocted far worse lies that were torn apart, one by one, when he and others were forced to testify under oath. He told his father, Archie, "she's kind of trashy," and "had the most vulgar mouth of any girl he'd ever seen" and "was unattractive but had big breasts" and had "been out with a bunch of black guys" and "had a toilet mouth."

Under oath, the ghostwriter, John Underwood revealed that Archie Manning suggested to him that Naughright was going into the dorms and having sex with large numbers of black student athletes. After saying that she was up in the dorms with black students, Archie, states:

"And, she'd, she'd, been up in the dorm before, I mean hey, you know, they could have, you know, could have pulled off stuff on her too. Ah, she, toilet mouth, ah Peyton told me he never did like her, but he always did, cause what I'd told him to do, ah, I instructed him to be nice to the tr- … don't ever look down on a trainer or an equipment person you know."


 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
44. LOL... Folks still believe in "squeaky clean" athletes?
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:40 PM
Feb 2016

You still believe in the tooth fairy as well?

Sadly, the haters will keep this story about Manning instead of making it about the University of Tennessee and how often these kinds of things get covered up by major football programs...

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
47. I don't know what you mean by "haters" here.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

You think it's hatred against Manning?

Hatred against anything football?

For the record, I was always impressed with Peyton on the field and off. This story sickens me. Toward both the Mannings and the University of Tennessee.

Charles Barkley said it best,"They don't pay us to be role models." However, I don't think he was addressing behavior like what happened to a respected trainer at the hands of the Vols organization and the Manning family. They destroyed her career.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
49. I'm not accusing you...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

But I have noted the legions of Patriots fans still butthurt over their own cheating scandals screaming this story from the mountaintops, so there's nothing wrong with me pointing out that they're more motivated by tearing down Manning instead of getting justice for the trainer...

Full disclosure: I have no dog in this fight -- I hate Brady/Manning, and the Pats/Colts/Donkeys all with the same amount of contempt... And I've also been around the block enough times to know that all "heroes" have something in their past which may or may not ever see the light of day...

And King's writing on this is shaky at best (especially since he's so hellbent on whitewashing his hero Cam Newton)... The original Daily Beast piece is a bit more straightforward: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/01/peyton-s-manning-s-forgotten-sex-scandal.html

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
50. For me, it has nothing to do with King and everything to do with the documents.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

And the support she has received from athletes and colleagues. She was a respected professional across the board.

(I hate the Patriots)

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
54. And I while I maintain Manning deserves the criticism coming his way
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

There still needs to be a wider look at the culture and atmosphere of big-time college sports where any athlete would ever think this is acceptable behavior...

Because sadly for every incident like Manning's there's ten that never, ever make the news...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
46. I hate his guts. I don't follow sports at all but Manning is all over the commercial world and
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:58 PM
Feb 2016

he embodies all I despise about sports culture. He's so very clearly a fake. And he's Papa John's wing man or something which makes it all worse. That which subjected the world to him can not be a thing of goodness.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
70. I live in Indy & he damn near walks on water ...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

... this city's obsession with him is like that of a jilted ex-lover waiting by the phone. The media swoons over everything he does, even now after he's been in Denver for what, 3 seasons? In the Colts offseason, they were clamoring for him to announce his retirement so he could move back here & become coach or GM.

It's just insane.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
52. Manning is an insufferable corporate whore and an absolute phoney.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:23 PM
Feb 2016

I can't stand him and his giant HGH sized fivehead.

The Broncos winning is the worst thing that could have happened. Everyone is blowing this phoney and he did nothing. Makes me sick.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. "Titled "Facts of the Case," and submitted to the court by the plaintiff's lawyers"
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

One imagines the defense lawyers have a different view of the facts.

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
57. Archie Manning (dad) tried to smear the trainer by claiming she was
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:52 PM
Feb 2016

"spending lots of time in the dorms visiting the black players", so there's a little bit of virulent racism apparently going on with the Mannings as well.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
60. You posted nothing but smears of Shaun King
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

Disgusting. Attack the messenger with a little racism thrown in.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
87. So Florio is wrong?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

King *did* go to the Mannings for comment? He DIDN'T grossly misinterpret the judge's ruling?

And you'd do well to watch yourself when throwing out racism accusations at me...

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
62. I Always Cringe When People
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

name their pets, or worse, their kids after some athlete they worship. Idol worship is a dangerous thing that's brought down entire societies. These guys are coddled, sheltered, protected and emerge completely entitled and in some cases dangerous. Athletes are entertainers, and Charles Barkley was absolutely right - they are not role models.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
66. in some ways the article is funny
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

it concludes with "he besmirched her stellar reputation and career".

This at the end of an article written - to besmirch Manning's own stellar reputation.

She got a $300,000 settlement in 1998 and who knows what from her other lawsuit and I am supposed to feel bad for her?

I am not gay and generally have no desire to even see another guy's penis, but for $200,000 I would be quite happy to have Peyton put his dick in my face.

It beats working for a living.

Lord only knows what really happened 22 years ago, or what he was thinking, but really he should have had his life ruined over that?

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
95. The question is whether Manning's reputation should be stellar
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

The victim in this case was sexually assaulted. Now I'm sure there are people out there who will let you mutilate their gentiles for a cab fare, but that doesn't mean the settlement properly compensated her for her loss and suffering. For one thing, she was a highly trained medical doctor, so the systematic destruction of her career path at that point was not without personal loss, even if you completely disregard the suffering she went through in the process (which you seem to have done). For another, the settlement she was given was not just for that one incident, but rather a systematic hostile work environment she faced for many years. If you don't know the details of that, you should probably find out before commenting because Manning was part and parcel to that abuse as well. For Manning's part, he never suffered anything at the time, despite the reality that today he would likely be charged with a felony and be required to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life (and rightly so) along with the complete destruction of his football career (and rightly so). So we should be clear that true justice was never received by the victim, despite whatever payment she received from the university.

So let's say that's all there is to the story and you might want to make the case it wasn't really all that bad because you'd happily consent to Manning's junk being forced on you for less money. Despite the glaring fact that what was done was completely without consent, you still wouldn't have much of an argument, but that isn't even all there is to the story. Manning lied about the original assault. This has been proven by the very witness he cited who refused to lie for him. Manning and his father have continued to lie about his victim decades after the fact, intentionally defaming her for which she was rightly awarded a settlement.

So the bottom line is the victim in this case is still pretty damn far from receiving true justice, and there's a pretty big difference between having one's reputation besmirched through no fault of one's own and having one's reputation besmirched because it was very richly deserved.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
96. we clearly have several fundamental disagreements
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

I think that kind of punishment for that kind of crime is far, far too severe, while you say "rightly so" to very harsh punishments. Then you say "Manning lied about the original assault". Yeah, and that would be because even at the time the penalty would have likely been very severe.

Take an example from my own life. One day my supervisor was talking about some missing candy with his supervisor. I happened to be walking by or was part of some other conversation. She said "It was probably taken by somebody who's fat" and reaches over and pokes me in the belly. To me, that rises to about the same level as what Manning did. She did not have permission to touch me like that. Nor is it copacetic for somebody to make disparaging comments about my gut and also accuse me of stealing based on nothing except the opportunity that dozens of people had.

Is that worth making a federal case out of? I certainly did not even try. It wasn't good, but it also was not that big of a deal. I took a whole lot more abuse from that psychotic supervisor, and I did not see any policy that would protect me. There was a policy against sexual harassment, but not against just plain harassment. I sat at home one night dreading going to work and I realized "I am in an abusive relationship. I am being verbally abused every day, and since I need this job, I cannot just walk away from it."

Of course, if you fast forward about three years, this same person, who was now a department head, was threatening to write me up because some whiny little pissant in the IT department had complained about an email I sent him. Apparently it was unprofessional for me to talk about my great great grandfather or something. (and to make a minor joke. I have this problem that I want people to call me Thomas and everybody calls me Tom. I said I am going to start chopping the end off of everybody else's name - that's only fair. So I called him Ad instead of Adam, and that was apparently a serious crime.)

Also, I might note that after her $300,000 settlement, she went on to another high paying job (which apparently got wrecked by the book - which lead to her getting another settlement of who knows how much).

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
97. So having someone's anus forced into your face is the same as getting poked in the belly by a finger
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:11 PM
Feb 2016

...and sure, getting called fat and being poked in the belly one day exactly mirrors getting called "cunt bumper" for years and experiencing an act that would be legally defined as sexual assault in every state of the union.

Yeah, I think there are some fundamental disagreements here.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
68. It's written by her lawyer in a lawsuit against Manning.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

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Somehow I don't think it should be accepted as gospel without hearing both sides.

A little skepticism is probably a good thing.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2617133-peyton-manning-sexual-assault-and-a-little-healthy-skepticism

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
84. How many times does Manning have to be busted for lying, before his "side" becomes irrelevant?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

Manning was busted for lying at Tennessee by the very witness he cited. This cost the University of Tennessee $300K. Years later Manning was busted again for lying about Dr. Naughright while also blatantly violating a confidentiality agreement he signed. That lie cost him personally an undisclosed amount of money.

These aren't opinions. They are facts in evidence which came to light in two separate court cases. Numerous people verified that Manning was a liar.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
88. You've just verified about half of my opinion on this case.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

She's already been paid off twice that we know of. Why does all of this come up again right after Denver wins the Super Bowl? It's like people are stalking Manning with this crap, just waiting to spring it on him.

Even if Manning did what she said in that locker room, I don't see how that relates to the person he has become since.

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
89. Paid Off?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:51 AM
Feb 2016

You sure that's the phrase you want to stick with? You may not see the distinction between a pay-off and a settlement to avoid a legitimate lawsuit, but many others do.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
92. Very well said. The besmirching of this woman has reached epic levels...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

...and she's publicly sticking to her silence.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
93. It's very telling when someone completely reverses the relationship between perpetrator and victim
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

In college, Manning routinely referred to her as "cunt bumper". Without consent he placed his penis, testicles, and anus on this woman's face because he thought sexual assault is funny. He was subsequently busted by the courts for lying about it. Years later he continued to lie about it and her in defiance of a confidentiality agreement he signed, was subsequently sued for defamation, and again in sworn deposition got busted again for lying.

So now we must believe that Manning is the real victim here because this woman who was already "paid off" for getting sexually assaulted simply wouldn't shut the fuck up and allow him to defame her publicly in defiance of a confidentiality agreement he signed.

I find it amazing the pretzels hero worshipers will twist themselves into.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
91. He was a piece of shit then, and he's still a piece of shit
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 12:01 PM
Feb 2016

He didn't become anything else. You have it exactly backwards. Manning has been stalking this woman. Nobody forced him to keep bringing it up and continuing to lie about it. He did that all on his own.

Pro-tip: If you sexually assault someone, there's a good chance they are going to have to be "paid off". 10 years later if you continue to lie about it and defame the very victim you sexually assaulted in defiance of a confidentiality agreement you signed, there's a good chance they are going to have to be "paid off".

Manning is just lucky social media wasn't around when he first committed the sexual assault. If it had been, the closest he'd be to the Superbowl is selling "Budweiser" at one of the concession stands.

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