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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsListed below are 10 professions with the highest and lowest percentage of psychopaths
among their members. Some of them will come as a surprise to you.
Professions with the most psychopaths in their ranks:
(It has a lot to do with having power over others)
1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (TV/Radio)
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist r
7. Police Officer
8. Clergyperson
9. Chef
10. Civil Servant
Professions with the fewest psychopaths in their ranks:
(It has to do with being connected and having feelings about
others)
1. Care Aide
2. Nurse
3. Therapist
4. Craftsperson
5. Beautician/Stylist
6. Charity Worker
7. Teacher
8. Creative Artist
9. Doctor
10. Accountant
http://theweek.com/articles/457731/which-professions-have-most-psychopaths
Response to Cal33 (Original post)
steve2470 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)think the largest group among them are the lawyers.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)customer beware of an irate psycho chef you never see and staff cannot declare
and the server cant really defend the dish and what may be done to it even it it winds up under the chef's shoe heel before they give it back to go out to the table again that's all im gonna say
and not all chefs
but they do rule and just like any rulers some can be nice and others terrible tyranny for the staff and unaware clients
not surprised they made top ten
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Why the fuck would ANY genuine psychopath (also called sociopath, FWIW) want to be a poorly paid care aide, equally poorly paid nurse or therapist or teacher or charity worker ? Sociopaths want POWER and MONEY, or one of those. Hello, politics, crime, big business is calling!
Cal33
(7,018 posts)to do it. (Maybe it can't be done on a computer?)
Edit: It looked okay when I wrote it, but the problem began after I sent it.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)haele
(12,640 posts)Psychopaths = born with no capability for empathy. Psychopathy is a type of mental disability, the inability to distinguish other people or feelings. What emotional capability they do have is at a primitive level. There is no guilt or pity, nor is there hate or love.
I've heard it described as living in a huge, complex, paint-by-numbers environment without a paintbrush, and the only colors available to use are dull grey or tan.
Psychopaths are born that way, but like many people with emotional/mental disabilities, a psychopath who makes a choice not to just do whatever best suits their immediate situation, who is good at taking cues as to how they are supposed to act in society, can pass as a normal person for the most part.
There are quite a few psychopaths (I've worked with one) who understand the concept of benefit from doing the greater good, and they're usually held up as heroes making sacrifices, because they're not emotionally invested in either pain or pleasure. Other psychopaths will seek out what little emotional stimuli that is available to them - typically very primitive adrenaline based emotions.
Sociopaths = strong internal emotional triggers that override any available feelings of empathy. Sociopathy can be either developed (environmental) or inherent (biological).
Because their emotional needs overwhelm any social awareness, a sociopath typically makes choices that benefits them without consideration of others.
A defining characteristic of a Sociopath is one who seeks out strong emotional stimuli to validate their presence around others and overcome any inadequacies or weaknesses they personally feel or think they have.
Haele
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)between the two:
http://www.medicaldaily.com/whats-difference-between-sociopath-and-psychopath-not-much-one-might-kill-you-270694
There are many other articles. I looked up DuckDuckGo.com "Differences between
psychopathy and sociopathy."
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)I don't think it's worth the time of day.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)results. Take your pick.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)And all the first links appear to be to various versions of the press release for the book that led to the article in the OP. Something's fishy.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)I'll wait for you to find out how this list was created. Thanks.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)would be 294,000 articles -- all repetitions of the one same book.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)former9thward
(31,936 posts)with will get thousands, if not tens of thousands of results. This list is garbage but people believe anything on the internet.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)Tests for psychopathy are universally unreliable. Even the ones that are required to be administered by professionals have all sorts of inherent flaws.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)lists come from Oxford University's research psychologist Kevin Dutton's book: "The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies and Serial Killers can teach us about success."
If you're interested in what methods he used in obtaining his information, you'll probably have to read his book. By the way, if you're lucky, Amazon does sell used books at dirt cheap prices. Good luck!
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Here's a brief summary of Dutton's book: (Even this brief summary is stimulating and interesting)
In this engrossing journey into the lives of psychopaths and their infamously crafty behaviors, the renowned psychologist Kevin Dutton reveals that there is a scale of "madness" along which we all sit. Incorporating the latest advances in brain scanning and neuroscience, Dutton demonstrates that the brilliant neurosurgeon who lacks empathy has more in common with a Ted Bundy who kills for pleasure than we may wish to admit, and that a mugger in a dimly lit parking lot may well, in fact, have the same nerveless poise as a titan of industry.
Dutton argues that there are indeed "functional psychopaths" among usdifferent from their murderous counterpartswho use their detached, unflinching, and charismatic personalities to succeed in mainstream society, and that shockingly, in some fields, the more "psychopathic" people are, the more likely they are to succeed. Dutton deconstructs this often misunderstood diagnosis through bold on-the-ground reporting and original scientific research as he mingles with the criminally insane in a high-security ward, shares a drink with one of the world's most successful con artists, and undergoes transcranial magnetic stimulation to discover firsthand exactly how it feels to see through the eyes of a psychopath.
As Dutton develops his theory that we all possess psychopathic tendencies, he puts forward the argument that society as a whole is more psychopathic than ever: after all, psychopaths tend to be fearless, confident, charming, ruthless, and focusedqualities that are tailor-made for success in the twenty-first century. Provocative at every turn, The Wisdom of Psychopaths is a riveting adventure that reveals that it's our much-maligned dark side that often conceals the trump cards of success.
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From the Publisher
The Wisdom of Psychopaths is captivating. Dr. Dutton's book invigorated my consideration not just of a certain television character, but of slow-pulsed overachievers everywhere. Michael C. Hall, actor, producer, Dexter
A terrifically entertaining and chilling book. William Georgiades, Slate
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I've known a few!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The lawyers I've met in the decades since I left law school are either raging psychos or pretty decent people, and the split has been slightly in favor of decent people. But psycho lawyers - I once worked for Assrocket - are genuinely terrifying and amoral monsters.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)are CEOs. CEOs are not necessarily all MBAs, and politicians are not necessarily all
lawyers. Correct?
So, coming from a single profession, lawyers may very well be in the No. 1 group.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and there isn't any psychopaths in their ranks that I know of. In fact nurses are the nicest most caring people on planet earth, Venus included
Can't tell I love my wife can you?
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I adore nurses. Typically in it for all the right reasons that so many healthcare professionals aren't anymore.
Props to your wife. My niece is about to graduate.
my mother and her sister were both RNs.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)i know from experience
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)We need to instill in people the idea that government exists to do things for them, things the corporate world is unable or unwilling to do. And we need to demand our elected officials and government workers make this their first concern, and remember their duties to the public interest.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)government official (including the highest ones) attend a short (like an hour or two) but
high-powered program every 6 months to remind them that they are in their jobs to
SERVE the people, not to simply make use of them for their own private ends. This could
help somewhat with those who are non-psychopaths.
The big problem is those who are psychopaths. They will go through any formality and
swear to anything, without meaning any of it at all. And they can't change. It would be
nice if there were some way of preventing psychopaths from getting into high positions
to begin with -- be it with the government or private industry.
They are the cause of most of the misery in the world, since the beginning of human
history. According to DSM-IV, psychopaths make up between 2% and 4% of the
general population. It's a small percentage of people who are, and always have been,
the cause of our world problems.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)My daughter-in-law is a home care aide and it just seems to come naturally to her. My daughter is a high school teacher and has the patience of a saint On the other hand, I was in the journalism field, and probably would be classified as a psychopath.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)who came to my house after the stroke I had were wonderful people.
Rex
(65,616 posts)for decades could only be done by someone that is methodical and sadistic.