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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:53 PM

There are a few scenes in really good movies that capture the zeitgeist of the moment...

The Greed is Good scene with Gordon Getko, comes to mind.

Dustin Hoffman floating around in the swimming pool in the Graduate

Nevertheless, for me the quintessential scene of a movie that tugs at my heartstrings now more than ever is this scene from Casablanca...



I was not even born when WWII was going on; I came of age in the late 60's and the early 70's.

I had always heard about this legendary movie and at that time, there just wasn't the opportunity to watch in on demand or see it twice a year on TCM.

I was alienated from my parents as I was more than a handful to both my mother and my stepfather.

Casablanca was showing on the only UHF station in town and I asked my folks if we could watch the movie together.

Neither one of them was interested but they let me watch it on the good TV in their bedroom.

Well, I was completely blown away by the movie, the intricate story line, the bravery, the honor and the change that came over a cynical man.

Later on, perhaps on the fifteenth or so watching, I see how this movie captured the innocents of America.

By the time the WWII was over, the glory faded and life went on and the people became people more concerned about their own lives than what was going on in the country.

Not until the moon landing did America rally around like a country.

We have never really come together again.

Even the Twin Towers attacked was grabbed by the Right and used as a political crudgeon to force people who questioned the dark intentions of those in charge to back off or else.

We haven't had a leader who can transcend poetical barriers and given the vitriol that is out there now, it is going to be a long time.

Anyway, it is good to see the 99 movement-taking roots. I am too old and infirm to do much of anything, but I have hope, the kind of hope that might spring up and pull us all together.

The Nazi's were evil. There is no doubt about it. I would give my life to fight an evil like that.

But because I saw that the evil was on "our side" in Iraq, I do not think anything can make me proud of our country again until someone comes along and gets people to stop saying what is in it for me...

That is the true glory of the sacrifice of Casablanca is that people were willing to lay it all on the line for something that was greater than they were.

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Reply There are a few scenes in really good movies that capture the zeitgeist of the moment... (Original post)
WCGreen Dec 2011 OP
Ian David Dec 2011 #1
WCGreen Dec 2011 #2
CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #3
one_voice Dec 2011 #4
3waygeek Dec 2011 #5
Enrique Dec 2011 #6
WCGreen Dec 2011 #7
Ian David Dec 2011 #8
CBHagman Dec 2011 #9
WCGreen Dec 2011 #10

Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:59 PM

1. You realize Casablanca was meant to be a satire of melodrama films, right?

"I have a pass signed by de Gaulle himself!"

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Response to Ian David (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:01 PM

2. Still works for me...

Anyway, they wanted the Gipper to play the part of Rick...

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:01 PM

3. This IS a great scene...

The music brings us all together...

Yes, we need to all come together. I suspect the 99 movement will do that, will continue to grow, spread and influence us...

And we need inspired words, like yours, to help bring us together, and to help us see where we're going too.



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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:07 PM

4. FYI...

for those that haven't seen Zeitgeist, it will be available from Netflix on/after 1/24.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:08 PM

5. I haven't cried in almost 40 years...

but this scene always makes my eyes water.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:16 PM

6. my generation had to make do with "Red Dawn"

yes, I feel sorry for myself.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:17 PM

7. Wolverines.....

That was a classicly bad movie...

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Response to Enrique (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:20 PM

8. Nobody shoots Baby from a chopper. n/t

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:27 PM

9. Just a note on the filming of that scene in "Casablanca."

In The Making of Casablanca: Bogart, Bergman and World War II (also known as Round Up the Usual Suspects Aljean Harmetz provides some interesting background on the cast (e.g., the anti-Nazi actor Conrad Veidt, cast as the evil Major Strasser) and production, including the realities of filming during wartime -- with immigrant extras, strictly observed curfews, and so forth. From what I understand, some of the extras had also fled wartime Europe and were found to be in tears at the end of takes for the Marseillaise sequence.

http://books.google.com/books?id=YSJcTLPP9QcC&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq=aljean+harmetz+marseillaise&source=bl&ots=NrHopQlr3U&sig=xW5ovH4Mu3PaTrpVw26Kp51xFB0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5hv6TqblAeO-2AXTjYHPBw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Response to CBHagman (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:31 PM

10. I could see why...

Originally, they wanted Ronad Reagan for the part of Rick...

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