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Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders (it sucks, but it's probably Hillary.)
I know we are holding off until we know he's the nominee and nobody else can get on the general ballot. After that happens, What can we do to destroy his campaign? I'm not talking issue wise, but what legal steps can we take, potential civil sanctions against one of his many business interests, suing him from here to eternity in every court to take away his ability to run, and most importantly, to depress any GOP vote and prevent any defection from the democrats? Ideally, I'd like to see him indicted in October.
PS> Thank the Earth that Ted Cruz will be eliminated! We WILL vote him out of the Senate in 2018!
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)Only nominating Sanders will insure his destruction.
If his opponent is Hillary it becomes a fight between two 1%'ers, theres little leverage she could have over him on economics.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)GOPer nominee is clearer.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Republicans must have about 40% of the hispanic vote to win the Presidency. Without it, it's nearly mathematically impossible for a GOP candidate to win.
In 2012 Obama had more than 70% of the hispanic vote. This is enough to turn battle-ground states like Colorado, Nevada, and Florida blue. The population of hispanics is growing. They will make up a greater percentage of the electorate in 2016 when compared to 2012 or 2008. The percentage of voters who are white, falls by about 2% every election cycle.
I think the above video is a pretty good general election commercial.
What do you think?
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![](http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/11/hispanic-2012-11-07-latino-vote-00-01.png)
Notice a trend line here? Dominate the hispanic vote, you win the election. PERIOD.
Trust me, the Democrats can't wait to run against Trump in the fall.
eissa
(4,238 posts)I've been one of those who has laughed along with everyone else at the rise of this buffoon, but have become increasingly alarmed at his following. I have to keep reminding myself that without Latino and women voters, his road to the presidency doesn't stand a chance.
LW1977
(1,244 posts)People who take their ball and go home because their candidate didn't win the nomination are happy with a President Trump it seems.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)This attitude got us GW in 2000. This is NO joke.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And don't allow him to leave/get away from them for at least an hour
AxionExcel
(755 posts)![](https://8583b52b4a309671f69d-b436b898353c7dc300b5887446a26466.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/5212149_trump-your-cat_62f16ddb_m.jpg)
Thanks for a huge snorf!!!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Trump is easily the most beatable of the Republicans. Harming his chances prematurely would be counterproductive.
former9thward
(32,407 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I'm not confident Clinton could beat Trump, and I think it quite likely that Sanders couldn't, but the odds against him are still better than against anyone else.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,659 posts)So far they haven't had any luck kneecapping him, but they must know that Trump will destroy the party - whether or not he actually is elected president. If it looks like he's likely to win the nomination they'll throw a ton of money and PAC support at Rubio (nobody likes Cruz, not even the GOP)
So far Trump hasn't actually done anything illegal (that we know about) or actionable, so there's nothing to be done in those respects. He's merely made use of an existing, flawed system to demagogue his way into the hearts and minds of angry low-information voters, of whom there are a lot.The GOP is in a bind because they run the risk that Trump will go third-party if he feels they are disrespecting him (which they are, but not too overtly, yet). That would be our dream scenario.
Otherwise it looks like it very well might be Trump vs. Clinton or Sanders. And that's where it gets interesting, or scary. If it's Trump vs. Clinton, that's a non-establishment candidate vs. an establishment candidate. Will enough establishment GOPers swallow their loathing for Clinton and vote for her because they think Trump will be an even bigger disaster? After all, Hillary is at least as much a friend of Wall Street as Trump. Trump is rich enough that he's never needed money from Goldman Sachs and their ilk, but those folks have already bought Hillary so they might be more inclined to vote for her. Trump is a wild card and the establishment can't count on him doing their bidding.
If it's Trump vs. Sanders, it's a contest between two non-establishment candidates. In that case the establishment GOPers might hold their noses and vote for Trump because they figure Bernie might try to derail their gravy train. However, Bernie will bring in the young people, anti-establishment independents who are smart enough to know what Trump really is, women, Latinos and other minorities. Maybe a lot of Catholics, too, since Trump started dissing the Pope.
If the GOP figures out a way to sideline Trump and nominate Rubio instead, both Dems will have to compete with a much younger candidate. Rubio's problem is that he's not a very good campaigner, but the GOP establishment will do their best to prop him up. Rubio is pretty weak sauce but he might be able to beat Hillary in a close election (if Trump doesn't compete as a third-party candidate), because she is so strongly disliked by most GOPers and a lot of independents. I think Bernie could kick his ass, though.
In any event, I think we have to wait and see how the GOP primaries play out...
Texas Blues
(55 posts)Hmmm...let me rephrase it a bit. A lot of people think I'm talking about doing something that is underhanded, when it SHOULD be our policy to vet him as unacceptable before the actual election in this manner, particularly with is probability of committing actionable civil and even criminal violations in his career.
I simply want to make it so if he's still running on Election Day, he loses 50 states and DC, at least in a rational world.
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)However, if he is the GOP nominee, the Dems will likely win states that they have not generally won in recent memory. I'd be happy with AZ, IN, NH, AR (if Clinton is the nominee) in addition to the usual blue and purple states. TX would be a surprise bonus.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The two presidential candidates with the lowest ratings for honesty and trustworthiness are Hillary Clinton (lowest) and Trump (not much better). Yet these two candidates lead in the polls and are likely to face each other in the November general election.
So the best we can do is a presidential race between two people that most of us believe are crooks and liars.
As a country, I'd say we are in deep shit.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Very interesting.
Johonny
(21,213 posts)He's DOA because so many conservatives hate him. He's John McCain and Mitt Romney only worse. They were actively hated by a large percentage of the party but eventually attracted huge primary numbers. Trumps numbers haven't moved since this summer. If he wins then he loses tons of support because he's a clown and the majority of the GOP know it.
Texas Blues
(55 posts)When a candidate says he can execute someone in broad daylight and his voters yell "More! More!", you and I know that he's not rational, almost as bad as Ted Cruz. But unfortunately, there are too many of those idiots on their side who will vote for him, and I'm afraid more voters on our side will be intimidated. This is why we need to do our OWN pre-election vetting, including any legal channels that we can pursue, or have pursued.
To me, this is not only ethical, it is morally responsible to try to stop him before the election, but we have to wait until he's the overwhelming nominee first to maximize our chances.
mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)Trump will Trump Trump
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)snip
A new poll finds Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton losing to four top Republican presidential contenders, including Donald Trump, in hypothetical general election matchups.
Clinton trails Republican primary front-runner Trump by a 45-43 margin head-to-head, according to a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released Wednesday.
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OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)The majority of Republicans support candidates other than Trump. Ultimately the party will coalesce behind one candidate who represents that majority.
It's really that simple.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)It's extremely hard to to imagine how a candidate that has won both New Hampshire and South Carolina in landslides isn't going to be the nominee but we'll see I guess. The media keeps telling us that Rubio is "rising" but the little twerp still has yet to win a single state and it doesn't appear that he will any time soon.
qwlauren35
(6,162 posts)Splash covers of his wife half-nude all over the Enquirer. That might make the evangelicals stay at home.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)JCMach1
(27,607 posts)IF there is a terrorist attack on America Sep.-Oct. 2016, the election will be 2000 close whether it is Bernie, or Hillary as our nominee.
No attack, either wins walking away...
think
(11,641 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)the numbers will change.
Additionally a brokered convention will not likely put Trump on the ticket.
I think I'll wait to see what happens first.