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Texas Blues

(55 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:06 PM Feb 2016

Trump WILL be the GOP nominee. Suggestions to destroying him before the election?

Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders (it sucks, but it's probably Hillary.)

I know we are holding off until we know he's the nominee and nobody else can get on the general ballot. After that happens, What can we do to destroy his campaign? I'm not talking issue wise, but what legal steps can we take, potential civil sanctions against one of his many business interests, suing him from here to eternity in every court to take away his ability to run, and most importantly, to depress any GOP vote and prevent any defection from the democrats? Ideally, I'd like to see him indicted in October.

PS> Thank the Earth that Ted Cruz will be eliminated! We WILL vote him out of the Senate in 2018!

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Trump WILL be the GOP nominee. Suggestions to destroying him before the election? (Original Post) Texas Blues Feb 2016 OP
None of the above. Cheating is not for me. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #1
I don't think cheating is necessary. That guy must have closetfuls of skeletons. nt Bigmack Feb 2016 #29
before the election? DJ13 Feb 2016 #2
Would love to see Clinton and Sanders on same stage just talking about Trumps deficits, when the Hoyt Feb 2016 #3
How about this? aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #4
Your post gives me so much hope eissa Feb 2016 #25
How about not bashing primary candidates from our own side.. LW1977 Feb 2016 #5
Precisely! tallahasseedem Feb 2016 #13
+1 n/t Mister Ed Feb 2016 #21
Invite the British media to grill him! kentauros Feb 2016 #6
Hmmmmmm? AxionExcel Feb 2016 #7
LOL Bayard Feb 2016 #19
Democratic candidate needs to select a Hispanic for his or her running mate. Preferably Castro! B Calm Feb 2016 #8
Step 1: sit on hands until he's won the nomination. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #9
That is exactly what Democrats said about Reagan in 1980. former9thward Feb 2016 #30
"On a different occasion, someone else was wrong about something different." Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #32
Maybe the Republican "establishment" will do it themselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #10
I did NOT indicate doing anything ILLEGAL nor UNETHICAL. Texas Blues Feb 2016 #11
Sadly, there is zero chance he would lose 50 states Blasphemer Feb 2016 #24
WTF is wrong with this picture? tularetom Feb 2016 #12
Why? You don't think that Hillary or Bernie can win on the issues? WillowTree Feb 2016 #14
Do you need to destroy a candidate that is acceptable to only 33% of his party? Johonny Feb 2016 #15
No, I think the Trump Voters are beyond sanity Texas Blues Feb 2016 #16
HRC has it covered mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #17
No, she does not - Poll: Trump beats Clinton head-to-head LiberalElite Feb 2016 #22
No he won't. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #18
I doubt it. BlueStater Feb 2016 #20
One thought... qwlauren35 Feb 2016 #23
His drooling followers will love it! They want money like his and women like his. nt Bigmack Feb 2016 #31
I have been 100% right on my DU Trump Predictions, so Here Goes my Latest: JCMach1 Feb 2016 #26
He's a birther... think Feb 2016 #27
They're only 3 states in as well and as campaigns drop out Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #28
Bernie will mop the floor with Trump. roody Feb 2016 #33
Going for them sweet, sweet screenshots? n/t Shandris Feb 2016 #34

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
2. before the election?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

Only nominating Sanders will insure his destruction.

If his opponent is Hillary it becomes a fight between two 1%'ers, theres little leverage she could have over him on economics.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Would love to see Clinton and Sanders on same stage just talking about Trumps deficits, when the
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

GOPer nominee is clearer.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
4. How about this?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016





Republicans must have about 40% of the hispanic vote to win the Presidency. Without it, it's nearly mathematically impossible for a GOP candidate to win.

In 2012 Obama had more than 70% of the hispanic vote. This is enough to turn battle-ground states like Colorado, Nevada, and Florida blue. The population of hispanics is growing. They will make up a greater percentage of the electorate in 2016 when compared to 2012 or 2008. The percentage of voters who are white, falls by about 2% every election cycle.

I think the above video is a pretty good general election commercial.


What do you think?



Notice a trend line here? Dominate the hispanic vote, you win the election. PERIOD.


Trust me, the Democrats can't wait to run against Trump in the fall.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
25. Your post gives me so much hope
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

I've been one of those who has laughed along with everyone else at the rise of this buffoon, but have become increasingly alarmed at his following. I have to keep reminding myself that without Latino and women voters, his road to the presidency doesn't stand a chance.

LW1977

(1,244 posts)
5. How about not bashing primary candidates from our own side..
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

People who take their ball and go home because their candidate didn't win the nomination are happy with a President Trump it seems.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
6. Invite the British media to grill him!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:15 PM
Feb 2016

And don't allow him to leave/get away from them for at least an hour

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. Step 1: sit on hands until he's won the nomination.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

Trump is easily the most beatable of the Republicans. Harming his chances prematurely would be counterproductive.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
32. "On a different occasion, someone else was wrong about something different."
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not confident Clinton could beat Trump, and I think it quite likely that Sanders couldn't, but the odds against him are still better than against anyone else.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,659 posts)
10. Maybe the Republican "establishment" will do it themselves.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

So far they haven't had any luck kneecapping him, but they must know that Trump will destroy the party - whether or not he actually is elected president. If it looks like he's likely to win the nomination they'll throw a ton of money and PAC support at Rubio (nobody likes Cruz, not even the GOP)

So far Trump hasn't actually done anything illegal (that we know about) or actionable, so there's nothing to be done in those respects. He's merely made use of an existing, flawed system to demagogue his way into the hearts and minds of angry low-information voters, of whom there are a lot.The GOP is in a bind because they run the risk that Trump will go third-party if he feels they are disrespecting him (which they are, but not too overtly, yet). That would be our dream scenario.

Otherwise it looks like it very well might be Trump vs. Clinton or Sanders. And that's where it gets interesting, or scary. If it's Trump vs. Clinton, that's a non-establishment candidate vs. an establishment candidate. Will enough establishment GOPers swallow their loathing for Clinton and vote for her because they think Trump will be an even bigger disaster? After all, Hillary is at least as much a friend of Wall Street as Trump. Trump is rich enough that he's never needed money from Goldman Sachs and their ilk, but those folks have already bought Hillary so they might be more inclined to vote for her. Trump is a wild card and the establishment can't count on him doing their bidding.

If it's Trump vs. Sanders, it's a contest between two non-establishment candidates. In that case the establishment GOPers might hold their noses and vote for Trump because they figure Bernie might try to derail their gravy train. However, Bernie will bring in the young people, anti-establishment independents who are smart enough to know what Trump really is, women, Latinos and other minorities. Maybe a lot of Catholics, too, since Trump started dissing the Pope.

If the GOP figures out a way to sideline Trump and nominate Rubio instead, both Dems will have to compete with a much younger candidate. Rubio's problem is that he's not a very good campaigner, but the GOP establishment will do their best to prop him up. Rubio is pretty weak sauce but he might be able to beat Hillary in a close election (if Trump doesn't compete as a third-party candidate), because she is so strongly disliked by most GOPers and a lot of independents. I think Bernie could kick his ass, though.

In any event, I think we have to wait and see how the GOP primaries play out...

 

Texas Blues

(55 posts)
11. I did NOT indicate doing anything ILLEGAL nor UNETHICAL.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

Hmmm...let me rephrase it a bit. A lot of people think I'm talking about doing something that is underhanded, when it SHOULD be our policy to vet him as unacceptable before the actual election in this manner, particularly with is probability of committing actionable civil and even criminal violations in his career.

I simply want to make it so if he's still running on Election Day, he loses 50 states and DC, at least in a rational world.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
24. Sadly, there is zero chance he would lose 50 states
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

However, if he is the GOP nominee, the Dems will likely win states that they have not generally won in recent memory. I'd be happy with AZ, IN, NH, AR (if Clinton is the nominee) in addition to the usual blue and purple states. TX would be a surprise bonus.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
12. WTF is wrong with this picture?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

The two presidential candidates with the lowest ratings for honesty and trustworthiness are Hillary Clinton (lowest) and Trump (not much better). Yet these two candidates lead in the polls and are likely to face each other in the November general election.

So the best we can do is a presidential race between two people that most of us believe are crooks and liars.

As a country, I'd say we are in deep shit.

Johonny

(21,213 posts)
15. Do you need to destroy a candidate that is acceptable to only 33% of his party?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

He's DOA because so many conservatives hate him. He's John McCain and Mitt Romney only worse. They were actively hated by a large percentage of the party but eventually attracted huge primary numbers. Trumps numbers haven't moved since this summer. If he wins then he loses tons of support because he's a clown and the majority of the GOP know it.

 

Texas Blues

(55 posts)
16. No, I think the Trump Voters are beyond sanity
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

When a candidate says he can execute someone in broad daylight and his voters yell "More! More!", you and I know that he's not rational, almost as bad as Ted Cruz. But unfortunately, there are too many of those idiots on their side who will vote for him, and I'm afraid more voters on our side will be intimidated. This is why we need to do our OWN pre-election vetting, including any legal channels that we can pursue, or have pursued.

To me, this is not only ethical, it is morally responsible to try to stop him before the election, but we have to wait until he's the overwhelming nominee first to maximize our chances.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
22. No, she does not - Poll: Trump beats Clinton head-to-head
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269702-hillary-trails-trump-head-to-head-poll

snip
A new poll finds Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton losing to four top Republican presidential contenders, including Donald Trump, in hypothetical general election matchups.

Clinton trails Republican primary front-runner Trump by a 45-43 margin head-to-head, according to a USA Today/Suffolk University poll released Wednesday.
snip

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
18. No he won't.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:54 PM
Feb 2016

The majority of Republicans support candidates other than Trump. Ultimately the party will coalesce behind one candidate who represents that majority.

It's really that simple.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
20. I doubt it.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:35 PM
Feb 2016

It's extremely hard to to imagine how a candidate that has won both New Hampshire and South Carolina in landslides isn't going to be the nominee but we'll see I guess. The media keeps telling us that Rubio is "rising" but the little twerp still has yet to win a single state and it doesn't appear that he will any time soon.

qwlauren35

(6,162 posts)
23. One thought...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:56 PM
Feb 2016

Splash covers of his wife half-nude all over the Enquirer. That might make the evangelicals stay at home.

JCMach1

(27,607 posts)
26. I have been 100% right on my DU Trump Predictions, so Here Goes my Latest:
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:28 AM
Feb 2016

IF there is a terrorist attack on America Sep.-Oct. 2016, the election will be 2000 close whether it is Bernie, or Hillary as our nominee.

No attack, either wins walking away...

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
28. They're only 3 states in as well and as campaigns drop out
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:31 AM
Feb 2016

the numbers will change.

Additionally a brokered convention will not likely put Trump on the ticket.

I think I'll wait to see what happens first.

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