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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:53 PM Feb 2016

'Supernanny" audio catches dad whipping son as he screams &cries. Dad reported to child service,

‘Jo Frost: Nanny On Tour’ took a dark turn after a recent episode showcased a father shockingly disciplining his young child with a belt. The occurrence was so awful, that the host (Jo Frost) reported the man to child services herself! Click to see the unsettling clip.

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Chris Spiney, a father on the Supernanny spinoff show, Jo Frost: Nanny On Tour, was caught on camera accusing his son Marcus, 9, of using a cell phone charger without permission. Footage shows him removing his belt and going after his son and awful sounds of whipping were caught on camera. The alarming episode outraged fans so badly, that they started to send death threats to the father.

A father on Jo Frost: Nanny On Tour is now receiving death threats after his family’s episode aired Feb. 18 on the UP channel, according to TMZ. During the show, you see the dad getting mad at his young son for using his cellphone charger without permission. He asks the child to stand in front of him where he could reprimand him, but the child refuses. The father tells him to go upstairs to his bedroom and wait. We then see Chris stand up, pull his belt from his pants and head up the stairs. The pair then go into the bedding, even though the child clearly is scared for his life. Although the episode didn’t show the actual “whipping” you can hear the young boy screaming and crying behind the closed bedroom door. After the host of the show Jo Frost reviewed the footage, she report Chris to child service

http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/02/19/supernanny-father-disciplines-son-belt-fans-death-threats/

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'Supernanny" audio catches dad whipping son as he screams &cries. Dad reported to child service, (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 OP
I doubt anything will happen to him Major Nikon Feb 2016 #1
well... he's getting death threats and a public shaming. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #2
Depends where you are. Chan790 Feb 2016 #3
I know of no state where corporal punishment is universally banned Major Nikon Feb 2016 #4
Didn't CA ban corporal punishment for kids under abelenkpe Feb 2016 #6
I'd be interested to know if they did Major Nikon Feb 2016 #8
Tried googling it abelenkpe Feb 2016 #11
I agree Major Nikon Feb 2016 #13
I do not udnerstand how a parent can do that to a child kcr Feb 2016 #16
Totally agree abelenkpe Feb 2016 #18
They got it wrong in the AP incident then. Chan790 Feb 2016 #9
Your reference doesn't prove your assertion Major Nikon Feb 2016 #12
Edit kcr Feb 2016 #17
It defines any intentional injury as abuse. Chan790 Feb 2016 #19
This is why I think all spanking should just be flat out illegal kcr Feb 2016 #22
Even so, some states don't allow whipping with a belt kcr Feb 2016 #15
Wow abelenkpe Feb 2016 #5
sickening. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #10
The son has development challenges GoldenOldie Feb 2016 #7
I started school at age 6 wildbilln864 Feb 2016 #14
My choice for being late to class was a swat or a 7th hour after school.... Logical Feb 2016 #20
Kinda like that running back Adrian Peterson and his son??? a kennedy Feb 2016 #21

Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
1. I doubt anything will happen to him
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:57 PM
Feb 2016

It's against the law to hit an adult or an animal, but not children.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
3. Depends where you are.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

It's explicitly illegal to corporally-punish your child in Connecticut. It carries a more-severe sentence than doing the same to an adult without their consent. (This differs from Massachusetts (where corporal-punishment is also illegal and severely-punished) where the law states you cannot consent to abuse...meant to make it easier to prosecute domestic violence, it has done more to criminalize consensual BDSM.)

Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
4. I know of no state where corporal punishment is universally banned
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

I remember during the Adrian Peterson incident, it was pointed out that no US states outlaw corporal punishment in the home although many countries do. I'm pretty sure some states have outlawed the practice in public schools and Connecticut and/or Massachusetts may be one of those.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
11. Tried googling it
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:03 PM
Feb 2016

Seems pretty vague. Thought for sure they had made it illegal but maybe not. Should be illegal though.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
16. I do not udnerstand how a parent can do that to a child
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:05 PM
Feb 2016

And I do not understand how people can defend it. It's sickening. People who defend it are monsters just like the parents who do it.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
18. Totally agree
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

My parents never hit me but witnessing them hit my brother and sister? It was so traumatic! I would never treat a person or a child that way. It sickens me knowing that my brother and sister condone that treatment today. We never talk though. One of many subjects we will never agree on.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
9. They got it wrong in the AP incident then.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:38 PM
Feb 2016

Corporal punishment is explicitly illegal in CT, classified as criminal child abuse, even in your own home. Has been since 2006. You can be charged with criminal child abuse for any act that meets the definition of "abuse" under CT statute.

CT General Statutes, Sec. 46b-120, article 7
A child or youth may be found “abused” who (A) has been inflicted with physical injury or injuries other than by accidental means, (B) has injuries that are at variance with the history given of them, or (C) is in a condition that is the result of maltreatment, including, but not limited to, malnutrition, sexual molestation or exploitation, deprivation of necessities, emotional maltreatment or cruel punishment

Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
12. Your reference doesn't prove your assertion
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

It doesn't even reference corporal punishment. It simply says if you purposely injure a child, the child has been abused. Every state has standards of where the line is between corporal punishment and child abuse. I believe Delaware has the greatest restriction, but even there corporal punishment is technically legal so long as it doesn't cause pain.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/13005-delaware-law-bans-parents-from-spanking-their-kids

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
19. It defines any intentional injury as abuse.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:13 AM
Feb 2016

People are prosecuted here for corporal punishment under that statute (both as injury and cruel punishment...that's the case law. Corporal punishment is adjudicated as being explicitly abusive under the first (injury by other than accidental means) and last (cruel punishment) clauses) and people who are obligated-reporters that don't call the police to report corporal punishment can be charged with a Class-A misdemeanor. That's how the law cited is interpreted, qua corporal punishment.

Precedent case law based from that statute proves the assertion.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
22. This is why I think all spanking should just be flat out illegal
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

It defies logic to claim that any spanking doesn't cause pain or isn't intended to cause pain. Making it illegal across the board makes it objective and clear. Other countries do this and there's no reason we can't. It appears CPS ruled that there was no evidence of abuse. That is insane.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
15. Even so, some states don't allow whipping with a belt
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:01 PM
Feb 2016

None of them should. Anyone who does so should be in jail.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
5. Wow
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

My father use to do that to my younger brother. Only he'd make him drop his pants first and do it at the kitchen table making my sister and I watch. I hated him for that shit. My brother never deserved that. Crazy thing is if you asked my brother and sister would say they are OK with that kind of punishment. Makes me sick to even think about it. Definitely part of the reason I stay away from my family. 3000 miles helps a lot. Poor kid! I hope he never has to go through that again.

GoldenOldie

(1,540 posts)
7. The son has development challenges
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:10 PM
Feb 2016

Super Nanny, Jo Frost, trained the parents on how to work with their son. I watched this show and when the father initially started losing control, the mother who was lying on the couch, simply covered her head with a blanket. Jo offered further help and the parents declined, therefore she had to report it.

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
14. I started school at age 6
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:35 PM
Feb 2016

and got my ass paddled with a board at least twice a week sometimes more by various teachers from the first year on til 7th or 8th grade when I was expelled. My mother, whipped my hiney with a switch and a belt my whole childhood til about age 13 or 14. My brother too. That's just the way it was back in the sixties here in SC in my schools.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
20. My choice for being late to class was a swat or a 7th hour after school....
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:16 AM
Feb 2016

Everyone always took the swat. Parents didn't hear about the swat but late home they knew something happened.

a kennedy

(36,350 posts)
21. Kinda like that running back Adrian Peterson and his son???
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

4:12 PM PT — According to the police report, Peterson allegedly sent text messages to the child’s mother saying he “felt bad” because he struck the kid in the testicles.

“Got him in the nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed!” the text said.

Peterson allegedly sent a follow up text saying, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has he biggest heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”

4:10 PM PT — According to the police report, the child told authorities he had also been hit by a belt and there were “a lot of belts in daddy’s closet.”

The child also said AP had put leaves in his mouth when he was being struck and that his pants were down.

3:50 PM PT — The Vikings have deactivated Peterson for Sunday’s game. […]

3:00 PM PT — The police report on the case includes photos of cuts on the boy’s thigh and hands. He also had bruises on his lower back and buttocks, and according to the report … Peterson admitted punishing him.


http://www.ijreview.com/2014/09/177641-see-photos-got-star-rb-adrian-peterson-indicted-child-abuse-decide-went-far/

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