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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:33 AM Feb 2016

Did race play a factor in the Kansas shooting?

Heston, Kansas is over 90 percent white and has an African-American population making up less than 2 percent. The shooter has been identified as being among that very small African-American minority. Reports indicate that something set him off and there was a post on social media about him being fed up. Obviously, everything is speculation at this point, but I wonder if the racial dynamic could have been a factor here.

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Did race play a factor in the Kansas shooting? (Original Post) oberliner Feb 2016 OP
The shooter TeddyR Feb 2016 #1
Or perhaps the victim of a racist environment? oberliner Feb 2016 #5
Yeah TeddyR Feb 2016 #12
Of course oberliner Feb 2016 #14
Would it make a difference? cwydro Feb 2016 #2
It doesn't mean that angle shouldn't be explored philosslayer Feb 2016 #3
I think it would oberliner Feb 2016 #4
Well, I do agree that understanding motive is important. cwydro Feb 2016 #6
Good points oberliner Feb 2016 #7
Could've been romanic Feb 2016 #8
Yes, cwydro Feb 2016 #10
Maybe. Maybe not. But guns did. That's certain. Iggo Feb 2016 #9
Yeah TeddyR Feb 2016 #13
I'm still waiting for the threads melman Feb 2016 #11
Not a terrorist 1939 Feb 2016 #16
No Race isn't a factor (I live 20 minutes away) demtenjeep Feb 2016 #15
He had been served with a restraining order about LiberalElite Feb 2016 #17
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. Or perhaps the victim of a racist environment?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:18 AM
Feb 2016

And that may have pushed him over the edge if he was already otherwise unstable.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
12. Yeah
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

He could have been a racist or a victim of a racist environment, though not sure either justifies mass murder. Agree?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Of course
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

I am just interested in learning more about the backstory to this tragedy.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. Would it make a difference?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:55 AM
Feb 2016

A mass shooting is a mass shooting.

It appears to be your standard variety workplace violence shooting.

Tragic and all too familiar.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
3. It doesn't mean that angle shouldn't be explored
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:07 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, it does matter. Motivation in committing a crime matters. That, for instance, is why we have hate crime laws.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Well, I do agree that understanding motive is important.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:25 AM
Feb 2016

But to my mind, these shootings have one thing in common.

A man who is enraged, a man who feels powerless against whatever or whomever it might be, a man who has given up on having any control of anything in his life except the ability to kill innocents.

Eliot Rodger had a sexist motive, but in the end - he was still an enraged, powerless man who wanted to kill.

We cannot protect ourselves from the rage that causes these men who kill. We can't fix that.

And I despair that we cannot protect ourselves from the rampant gun culture that gives these enraged men an outlet for their lack of power. Sigh.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
8. Could've been
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:29 AM
Feb 2016

but as you said it is up to speculation. However, if racism in the workplace set him off, it's still no justification to go on a shooting rampage. I myself have worked in mostly white or non-black workplaces and been called all types of names, but I never felt like shooting up the place.

I think race have may played a part, but I also think stress and other things prompted this.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. Yes,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

Rage and the feeling of powerlessness causes these things in my opinion.

No doubt they're estranged from friends and family too...it's very sad on every level.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
11. I'm still waiting for the threads
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:16 PM
Feb 2016

where everybody shouts about how this guy is a "black terrorist".


But I'm sure they'll be appearing any time now.

1939

(1,683 posts)
16. Not a terrorist
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:17 PM
Feb 2016

Just your garden variety dirtbag. He was a convicted felon and had a long rap sheet in Florida.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
15. No Race isn't a factor (I live 20 minutes away)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

Anger

Emotional distress

The man had just gotten a protection from abuse order just earlier that day


The man was just pissed off and was also a former convict

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
17. He had been served with a restraining order about
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

90 minutes prior. It is thought that was the precipitating cause:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/26/us/kansas-shooting/

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(CNN)Ninety minutes before he opened fire in central Kansas, Cedric Ford got served a restraining order -- an act a local sheriff thinks led him to kill three people and wound 14 others.

"I believe that probably is the trigger, and it went from there," Harvey County Sheriff T. Walton said Friday.
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