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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:46 PM

 

Hijabed nanny decapitates baby, burns apartment, then parades severed head in the streets of Moscow

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35685981


Ho. Lee. Shit.

The woman, believed to be the victim's nanny, is suspected of killing the child before setting fire to its parents' apartment.
CCTV appears to show the woman, dressed in a hijab, walking near a metro station with a head in her hands.
A police officer then intercepts her and wrestles her to the ground.
The suspect has been placed in psychiatric care to determine whether she is capable of understanding her actions, the Moscow Investigative Committee said in a statement (in Russian).
A criminal investigation was launched after the discovery of the remains of a child aged three to four, whose body bore traces of a violent death, in a charred flat on Narodnoye Opolcheniye Street in north-western Moscow, it added.
"According to preliminary information, the child's nanny, a citizen of one of the Central Asian states born in 1977, waited for the parents and elder child to leave the flat and then, for reasons not established, murdered the infant, set fire to the flat and left the scene," it added in the statement.
Police sources told Russian news agencies that the victim had been decapitated and the head removed from the scene by the nanny.

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Reply Hijabed nanny decapitates baby, burns apartment, then parades severed head in the streets of Moscow (Original post)
linuxman Feb 2016 OP
Fearless Feb 2016 #1
snooper2 Feb 2016 #3
Fearless Feb 2016 #4
snooper2 Feb 2016 #10
Hortensis Feb 2016 #19
MariaThinks Feb 2016 #27
Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #6
LanternWaste Feb 2016 #11
Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #15
Hortensis Feb 2016 #20
kentauros Feb 2016 #39
Hortensis Feb 2016 #41
Egnever Feb 2016 #7
melman Feb 2016 #9
Egnever Feb 2016 #40
LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #32
hifiguy Feb 2016 #38
Matrosov Feb 2016 #37
Oneironaut Feb 2016 #2
PufPuf23 Feb 2016 #23
MariaThinks Feb 2016 #28
virgogal Feb 2016 #5
Wilms Feb 2016 #8
snooper2 Feb 2016 #13
Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #16
Wilms Feb 2016 #17
MariaThinks Feb 2016 #29
bhikkhu Feb 2016 #12
Atman Feb 2016 #14
B2G Feb 2016 #18
Marrah_G Feb 2016 #22
Marrah_G Feb 2016 #21
HuckleB Feb 2016 #31
TipTok Feb 2016 #36
romanic Feb 2016 #24
840high Feb 2016 #25
JI7 Feb 2016 #26
Rex Feb 2016 #30
Scurrilous Feb 2016 #33
Bonx Feb 2016 #34
Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #35
progressoid Feb 2016 #42

Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:47 PM

1. Why does the hijab matter?

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:49 PM

3. you are correct, they should have just stated "fundie asshole takes little girls life"

 

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:50 PM

4. Wtf?

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:08 PM

10. and it isn't very DEMOCRATIC to scream Allahu Akbar while holding a severed childs head

 

Last time I checked-

You even read the articles on this?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:35 PM

19. Dreadful tragedy, and dreadful responses here.

I hope the toddler didn't suffer much.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:03 PM

27. i share your feelings on this - notice the comments are not on the poor child or the family

but whether anyone should have mentioned hijab.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:55 PM

6. If she had been wearing a large crucifix,

would you have complained if the news story had mentioned that fact?

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:13 PM

11. The presumption of relevance is unsupported.

The presumption of relevance is unsupported to date.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:19 PM

15. Shouldn't the story simply report all the facts

and let the readers decide for themselves what facts are relevant?

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:37 PM

20. If any bigot was suggesting this was intrinsic

Catholic behavior, you bet I'd complain.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:54 PM

39. And I wouldn't blame you for that, either.

Remember the woman who pushed her child in the swing until her child died? Never once was her religious belief mentioned, nor was it necessary. She was mentally ill, same as with this one.

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Response to kentauros (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:41 PM

41. Yes, almost all child murderers are mentally "ill"

in some way, anything from completely insane to lacking the necessary emotional equipment.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:00 PM

7. I don't buy this story

 

Might have happened but smells like propaganda to me.

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Response to Egnever (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:07 PM

9. Right

 



never happened.

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Response to melman (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:11 PM

40. I stand corrected

 

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Response to Egnever (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:21 PM

32. And the envelope please!!!


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Explanation: It might be propaganda, but then again it might be a wealthy family with a slave nanny.
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Response to Egnever (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:49 PM

38. The BBC isn't known for making things up.

 

And the video below is from a BBC website.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:38 PM

37. "Masked gunman robs bank"

 

The hijab is relevant because she was also shouting Allahu Ackbar while parading the severed head around.

No, that doesn't mean every woman who wears a hijab is a child-decapitating monster, just not like everybody who wears a ski mask is a bank robber, but in this case the hijab might provide greater insight into her motives.

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:47 PM

2. What is the difference between being a fundamentalist and being crazy?

Is there really one?

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:49 PM

23. Fundamentalist is one of many paths to crazy actions.

Last edited Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Fundamentalist thinking is magical and irrational thinking.

One can be "crazy" but never act "crazy" and maintain behavior within bounds of society, self-respect, and lack of harm to oneself or others.

Some of us are more predisposed to the "crazy" because of genetics and environment.

Fundamentalism, drugs, alcohol, cults in general, poverty, and physical, spiritual, or sexual abuse are paths that fertilize and activate the innate "crazy".

Hijabed, Allah Akbar, and beheading suggest that some strain of Islam had a part in forming the reality of this horrid woman.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:06 PM

28. your last point is right on target. There is something religious at play and this happens

all the time now. Pointing it out is not the problem, the problem is that it is happening.

I think many would have us sitting around like targets while the fundies commit their crimes and are excused because it is only 'a few'.

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:53 PM

5. The hijab doesn't matter in the big picture

 

but she chose to wear it and it is used as a descriptive the same way it would be if she was wearing a kimono.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:01 PM

8. I always see clothing referenced in news stories.

 

"A man wearing pants, robbed a bank this morning". "Woman wearing dress suspected of kidnapping.

And so on.

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Response to Wilms (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:15 PM

13. He was last seen wearing a black jacket, a black shirt, black pants and black shoes.

 

Sketch Released Of Sexual Assault Suspect Wanted In Northridge
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/02/16/northridge-sexual-assault-suspect/

Comedian Chris Ramsey arrested in hotel room...wearing nothing but his underwear
http://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/celeb-life/comedian-chris-ramsey-arrested-in-hotel-roomwearing-nothing-but-his-underwear-384793.html

Stabbing suspect wearing Santa Claus jacket wanted by Lakewood Police
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/lakewood/stabbing-suspect-wearing-santa-claus-jacket-wanted-by-lakewood-police


Ypsilanti police release picture of masked, fedora-wearing suspect wanted in 2 bank robberies
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/07/ypsilanti_police_release_pictu.html


Man wearing 'SELFIE' hat during robbery arrested wearing same hat
http://www.wcvb.com/news/man-wearing-selfie-hat-during-robbery-arrested-wearing-same-hat/37333374


(My Favorite)
Man Arrested on Drugs Charges While Wearing a 'Don't Meth With Me' T-Shirt
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/13942-man-arrested-on-drugs-charges-while-wearing-a-dont-meth-with-me-t-shirt


I only got around 79 million hits with my search so let me know if I shall continue

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:20 PM

16. How dare they mention the "Santa Claus jacket".

Not relevant at all.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:26 PM

17. Please continue.

 

It's important for people to see your line of reasoning.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:07 PM

29. i think what the killer was yelling might be relevant to what was on her mind

also - interesting, some family, despite all the islamophobia gives her a chance and has their child horribly killed by her.

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:14 PM

12. And the big story is she wore a head scarf?

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:15 PM

14. A guy in camo outfit takes out movie theater.

WTF do the clothes have anything to do with it?

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:32 PM

18. The hijab doesn't bother me, but this does.

 

Amateur video posted online shows a black-clad woman, apparently the suspect, outside a metro station shouting the Islamic phrase "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great).

"I am a terrorist," she cries. "I am your death."

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Response to B2G (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:47 PM

22. Sadly that phrase will be associated with death for a long time

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:46 PM

21. Mental illness is a terrible, terrible thing.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:11 PM

31. Stigmatization is a terrible terrible thing.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:52 PM

36. That or just regular old religion...

 

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:53 PM

24. It's telling

that some responses are more outraged at the mention of the killer wearing a hijab versus the actually killing/beheading of a infant. JFC.

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Response to romanic (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:58 PM

25. .+10

 

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:02 PM

26. how fucking horrible

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:08 PM

30. Let her rot in prison in Siberia.

 

That way the outside temperature can match the coldness of her heart.

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:29 PM

33. Any other international crime news you wish to share w/ us today?

It's a big world out there...check around.

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:43 PM

34. This story is on the front page of many news sites.

Check around

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:51 PM

35. Some of the very best DUers share international news here.

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Response to linuxman (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 07:00 PM

42. Here's the results of the alert...

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This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

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"Hijabed Nanny?" This is stunningly inflammatory and is clearly posted either to start a fight or to imply that the hijab is pertinent. It isn't.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:56 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

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Explanation: It's an actual news story from the BBC, a trustworthy source. Make your case against the thread title in the thread.
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Explanation: Given that the article itself says 'dressed in a hijab', I don't see why the title is any more 'stunningly inflammatory'.

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