Escaped inmate killed by father of family he took hostage.

[linuxman]

http://wreg.com/2016/03/10/escaped-mississippi-inmate-killed-by-family-he-took-hostage/

VICKSBURG, Miss. — An escaped murder suspect has been shot and killed by a family he took hostage.

Rafael McCloud escaped from jail in Warren County, Mississippi last week where he was being held on charges of rape and capital murder.

Thursday morning, he approached a man who was starting his car and forced his way into the man’s home.

McCloud tied up the man and his wife and then stabbed the man according to WLBT-TV.

At some point, the man reportedly got free, got his gun and shot McCloud to death.

The man was taken to the hospital, his wife and two children were not injured.




Good work buddy.

[Dustlawyer]

1. He picked the wrong house!

[linuxman]

2. Everything was going according to plan!

He would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling gun owner!

[HERVEPA]

5. Wow, right on cue!

[linuxman]

6. Yep, here you are!

[GGJohn]

9. Yep, you're right on cue.

[LanternWaste]

15. Seems multiple cues exist at any one time...

Seems multiple cues exist at any one time... ready for exploitation by smilies and emojies (a most wonderful tool for the sub-literate, mentally undisciplined and under-educated), one-liners, bumper-stickers and a thousand other petulant devices.

(But, like you, I also point only toward the "other" cues and righteously ignore my own... much more self-validating that way, regardless that it illustrates us as little better than grade-school children-- indicting others for behavior we ourselves habitually use. Ethical convenience is way cool...)

[TipTok]

26. Should have tried it in DC or Chicago..

As long as you don't pick someone 'important' you've got pretty good odds they won't be able to fight back in the same way.

[saturnsring]

3. good case for thedeath penalty - crazed killers who are executed dont get to escape to kill again

[OriginalGeek]

12. Sorry, I don't believe there is such a thing as a good case for Death Penalty

this, however, is a good case for self defense.

[saturnsring]

19. he ended up getting the death penalty anyway

so

[OriginalGeek]

23. well if you can't see the difference

between innocent people protecting themselves from a very real and present danger and the state taking someone already in their control and murdering them then I don't know what to tell ya.

I suppose I could be real zen and say it would be best if the family had just let the guy rape and murder them but I'm not THAT liberal.

I am 100% against capital punishment.
I am 100% for people protecting their families.

I don't find those two positions at odds with each other.

[saturnsring]

24. i see the difference i just dont think it's significant

i guess i'd rather it done by the state than have it done by a terrified family being forced to defend theirs and their child's lives against this kind of animal

[OriginalGeek]

25. He shouldn't have been allowed to escape.

Thank goodness the terrorized family was able to defend themselves.



Allowing prisoners to escape is something that can be fixed. Murdering them is not.

[saturnsring]

27. correct he shouldnt but they do and even the ones that dont

kill other inmates and guards. you call it murder i call it consequences of actions

[Donald Ian Rankin]

32. Your selective trust in the judicial system is striking.

You trust the system to infallibly identify people to kill, but not to reliable operate prisons?

Personally, I'm happy to run a very small risk of being wrongly imprisoned, and incur the moral hazard of being partly responsible for occasionally wrongly imprisoning others, in exchange for the personal security of being massively less likely to be a victim of crime, and the moral good of making others safer. But I'm not willing to pay the additional risk of myself or others being wrongly executed in exchange for the tiny and questionable additional gains the death penalty would bring.

[saturnsring]

34. the group that convicts isnt the same group that guards

[Donald Ian Rankin]

35. No - juries are ignorant amateurs; guards are trained professionals. N.T.

[sarisataka]

13. There is the minor detail

of him not actually having been convicted of murder yet.

Never mind the inherent hypocrisy of the death penalty.

[saturnsring]

21. another minor detail: i wasnt refering specifically and only to him

besides he got it anyway just without that due process stuff

[sarisataka]

28. I am confused

You support the death penalty but oppose self-defense?

[saturnsring]

31. i support both that being said if we, as a nation, get rid of the dp i wouldnt care

[Human101948]

4. I'll take my chances, the odds are in my favor...

People who have ready access to a firearm are almost twice as likely to be killed and three times likelier to commit suicide than those without a gun available in the home or from a neighbor or friend, a new study has concluded.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-guns-20140121-story.html

[HERVEPA]

8. Stop making sense

[Bonx]

10. Cool. You can show the escaped inmate the study, I'll take a firearm.

And my own chances.

[Human101948]

17. I can safely bet my retirement that you will never face that situation...

though it is fun to dream about that moment when you place a few rounds into the escaped killer.

[Bonx]

18. I'm a fan of being prepared, because you never know.

Wouldn't enjoy shooting someone though.

[saturnsring]

22. just like that florida woman

[Brickbat]

7. Here's a better article.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2016/03/10/rafael-mccloud-killed-report/81577178/

McCloud was reported to have held the family in the bathroom. At some point, the wife was allowed to leave the bathroom. She returned with a handgun and fired one shot believed to have struck McCloud. After the husband’s bounds were cut by the wife, the husband took control of the weapon and fired additional shots striking McCloud. The family then ran outside and flagged a motorist and asked them to call 911, according to a police news release.

McCloud was found in the bathtub with multiple gunshot wounds. He was pronounced dead by the Warren County Coroner. His body was transported to the Mississippi Crime Laboratory in Jackson for an autopsy.

"I hate that they had to go through that, but I’m very grateful and I thank God that no one was killed," Chief Walter Armstrong Armstrong said.

Except McCloud, bien sur.

[sarisataka]

11. When the chief said

'no one was killed' I think he was speaking of the victims.

[Bonx]

14. Statistically, McCloud will be a victim of gun violence.

[Brickbat]

16. No, I know -- and it makes sense for him to say that.

It was just a poor juxtaposition in the article. I can't imagine the terror that family must have felt.

[sarisataka]

20. True

And although any loss of life is a tragic waste of potential, I don't think the violent felon shouldget victim status. To some, however, there is no difference between him and the family he terrorized.

[Brickbat]

29. We agree.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

30. Good!

If there was a 5% chance that someone who broke into my house was going to harm my children I'd kill him 100% dead.

I cannot see the humanity of anyone who might harm my kids. Period.

[840high]

33. .^that