Molly Ivins quote on fear...

[Playinghardball]

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. Miss her.

[JohnnyLib2]

2. Miss her and need her astute comments.

[lunatica]

3. Any Molly Ivins quote deserves a kick and rec

I wish I could do it more than once.

The world is a darker place without her light in it.

[SharonAnn]

10. And these quotes on Fear from Dune and Star Wars

Dune:
"LITANY AGAINST FEAR
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain. "

Star Wars: Phantom menace (Yoda):
“Fear is the path to the dark side…
fear leads to anger…
anger leads to hate…
hate leads to suffering.”

[oasis]

26. Great quotes. nt

[Jenny_92808]

4. K & R

for Molly

[felix_numinous]

5. I was listening to a lecture this morning

about what happens when people are traumatized, they 'collapse', and often revert back to more primitive or childish behaviors, destructive behaviors. I recognized that this must be one goal of using 'shock and awe' (911, resultant fearmongering, today's RW fearmongering) to revert the public backwards to a more emotionally dependent, immature and ignorant mindstate.

I also heard that what is needed is just one light, the eternal flame, call it what you will, that ignites our remembering who we are and what is most important to us, and that it was never extinguished, only eclipsed.

[ellennelle]

7. good insight

when the people are traumatized, they misbehave, giving the powers that be the excuse to keep them under tight-fisted control.

that flame of which you speak is the flame of revolution, of change, of growth.

it will never be extinguished!

[passiveporcupine]

18. I love this

I also heard that what is needed is just one light, the eternal flame, call it what you will, that ignites our remembering who we are and what is most important to us, and that it was never extinguished, only eclipsed.

So hope is eternal, even if the flame was dimmed for awhile. And Bernie is holding up a bright new flame of hope.

[hopemountain]

27. yes!

your post expresses "ignition" very well...bernie sanders is extending his flame to light others.

[LuckyLib]

6. Molly would be eviscerating the Republican party. Shaking her head at the

sheer stupidity of right wingers who don't think for themselves, and are sheep for the wolves.

[JEB]

8. K&R for courage and insight. eom

[mountain grammy]

9. Bushwhacked: Life in George W Bush's America

one of my favorites. Tells a story of one Eugene Scalia, spawn of Antonin, working to gut repetitive motion regulations that took OSHA more than a decade to approve, proving evil often begets evil.

[lastlib]

11. God, we need her NOW!!

A lot of asses in this country need a good Molly-style ass-kickin'!

[stevenleser]

12. Agree with Ivins. But let's not conflate fear with a realistic understanding of the challenges

facing either Bernie or Hillary if elected.

Neither will be able to move anything for a minimum of six years and likely their entire two terms if they are lucky enough to have them.

[daleanime]

13. Which leaves us to wonder....

which one would try to work on moving forward?

[stevenleser]

14. There is no moving forward. The House committees wont even take up the bills.

That problem has to be solved first. And the solution wont result in a new House until Jan 2023 at the earliest.

[daleanime]

15. Ah, but here's the thing.

Just trying does make a difference. Which is more likely to fire up the party, a president who explains why we can't or a president who keeps trying to do what we need to? Because we need to fight now and in '18, and '20.

[stevenleser]

16. No, it doesn't and nothing suggests that it does and I say that with some sadness.

Obama's trying on a host of issues has not made a difference since we lost the house and senate.

Obama's trying on the Supreme Court nominee will not make a difference. We've gotten to that point.

What a Sanders Presidency would do is cause a backlash that would make 2010 and 2014 look minor in comparison. He would make things worse, not better.

[passiveporcupine]

19. He would make things worse, not better.

That is what Ivins was referring to.

[stevenleser]

20. And your statement is what I was referring to, conflating fear with a sober knowledge of challenges

and consequences.

[passiveporcupine]

21. You are wrong, as usual

I just posted this in another thread, but it applies to your comments about we can't do anything until 2023 as well:

MONEY...the people who have the money that get the congress critters elected, don't want to end the money train of big pharma and Medical insurance and care.

Money is what we are fighting and it's one of Bernie's biggest issues. We need to get the money out of politics. Then it won't matter so much who has the house and senate. Because even Republicans will fight for single payer if it's what their constituents want.

Money is what prevents constituents from forcing their elected congress members to act for the people's interest.

[stevenleser]

23. Nope, I'm not. Unless you can provide me a list of Republicans in the House who will vote for Bernie

Sanders initiatives, starting with the Republican heads of the committees that would need to take the measures up long before they were presented to a full House of Representatives.

I will happily call to confirm your contentions.

Of course you wont provide me any names because you can't.

And thus, my point is proven. Its a sober analysis of the challenges that face us that you incorrectly equate with fear.

[passiveporcupine]

24. Of course I can't provide any names of republican congressmen/women

who would support Bernie, or Hillary, or Obama. They are all controlled by the money source today.

It will take Bernie as POTUS, calling on all of us grassroots supporters to push our congress people to accept and support change. And the biggest change will be taking the money out of politics. He's already said he can't do it alone. Obama said that too, but then forgot about us once he was in office, and tried to do it alone. But Obama wasn't interested in the same changes Bernie is pushing. He was willing to accept much of the system as it was, which basically meant he was trapped by it.

We can change the system, and we can do it now, if we work together.

I don't buy your fear campaign at all. That's a quitters point of view.

[stevenleser]

25. I know you can't and thus my point is made. It's a sober analysis.

You could/should have followed your subject/title with, "I guess you're right"

[passiveporcupine]

28. Yeah, like that would ever happen.

You would have to say something reasonable before I'd say you are right about anything.

You don't think through what other people are saying. You just keep spouting your fear propaganda.

[stevenleser]

30. My #23 is replete with facts that you can't dispute. End of story. nt

[passiveporcupine]

31. Seriously?

You didn't list a single fact in your post 23...but that's not unusual. You don't make a lot of sense...or maybe you did have a few facts in that post, but your facts are like farts...poof and they fade away.

[daleanime]

22. Issues like the TPP....

that the public was not only not invited to be involved with but were actively hidden from the public? Wonder why that didn't fire anyone up?

[Jopin Klobe]

17. In death as in her life ...

... Her words always say the Truth ...

[HassleCat]

29. She should be here.

She would enjoy the hell out of this election.