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ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:37 PM Mar 2016

I admire Donald Trump (ahem)

much like I admire the special effects in some Stalone war movie. Lots of explosions, fireworks, blood, death, and noise. And I don't much care for those movies, either.

This time, it is not the violence that follows his appearances like a dog on a leash, but his commentary which seems to attract Newsie attention but without any one with a brain thinking it through. Of course, today's media is either incapable of thinking something through, or taking their attention away from the next shiny object (which these days seems to be another outrageous statement from Herr Trump).

What a stroke of genius, offering to pay for the legal costs of anyone arrested while breaking the skulls of anti-Trump protesters.

There are a couple of points, minor quibbles, actually, but let us skip those and go to the heart of the matter. This is a simple point, but very important. To emphasize just how important, I will type slowly and use all caps.

TRUMP'S PROMISE IS WORTHLESS.

See? Inciting people to riot, to break bones, to attack someone - those are crimes in every state of the country. Pushing people to break the law is itself illegal, which some conspiracy legal experts can explain better than I. But the underlying point is when Herr Trump promises to pay their legal fees, he is promising nothing. A promise to assist and abet in an illegal activity is against public policy. Because it violates public policy, IT IS UNENFORCEABLE. Any skin head who beats up a protester has absolutely no recourse against trump for his broken promise to pay legal costs. None.

That is why Trump is such a genius on this issue.

He comes close to crossing the line on inciting riots, he makes an unenforceable promise, and he reaps the massive media coverage as a result. The media eats it up, the public is outraged, and his fans are energized. AND IT WILL NEVER COST HIM A PENNY. Especially in legal fees.

Of course Trump knows this. He has used and abused the legal system about as well as it can be used and abused. He knows his promise cannot be enforced. And he loves just how foolish the media looks chasing him on the issue.

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I admire Donald Trump (ahem) (Original Post) ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 OP
He promised to pay legal costs? underpants Mar 2016 #1
He promised to pay the legal costs of anyone arrested for ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #2
Good grief underpants Mar 2016 #5
Not good, more like endless grief. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #7
Trump urges supporters to assault protesters and says "I PROMISE you I will pay for the legal fees." napkinz Mar 2016 #20
Come to think of it, Arnold Schwarzenegger might be his VP pick. RKP5637 Mar 2016 #3
The idea of a president Trump is so offensive to me, ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #4
He's a disturbing spectacle, but even more disturbing RKP5637 Mar 2016 #8
They are scary. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #10
Trump is enabling some really unstable people. His audience more and more RKP5637 Mar 2016 #14
Boy, did you hit the nail on the head. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #15
Trump is so reminiscent of the dictators of the WWII era. And he's using RKP5637 Mar 2016 #16
It would be like the Fox New's 5 underpants Mar 2016 #6
doesn't the VP have to be eligible for the presidency? 0rganism Mar 2016 #17
I would think so. I was just joking anyway. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #18
hard to tell what "joking" is anymore when it comes to the Donald 0rganism Mar 2016 #19
These are really scary times. I've never seen this country this polarized and with a guy like RKP5637 Mar 2016 #21
ikr? i was really scared earlier, but then it hit me... 0rganism Mar 2016 #22
I hope they disintegrate too. Trump is doing an excellent job of showing to the world what the RKP5637 Mar 2016 #23
This is playing like some sort of outrageous movie plot. gordianot Mar 2016 #9
Alice in Wonderland on bad acid? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #11
Off with their head and the villain does not have to pay for it. gordianot Mar 2016 #12
Ahh, that explains his approach to his wall, his Mexican wall. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #13

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
2. He promised to pay the legal costs of anyone arrested for
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016

Beating up any protester who appears at his rally.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
20. Trump urges supporters to assault protesters and says "I PROMISE you I will pay for the legal fees."
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
4. The idea of a president Trump is so offensive to me,
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

I cannot even begin to imagine a cabinet that he might choose.

Whim, caprice, and being offensive to a particularly defenseless group has brought him quite the distance, but it says nothing about who he would pick.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
8. He's a disturbing spectacle, but even more disturbing
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

are those nincompoops that support him and rally around him. They are clearly Lemmings, Lambs to the slaughter, and he works them to his advantage like a finely tuned fiddle.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
10. They are scary.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

Mindless, grabbing their guns, bibles, and 6 packs and taking aim at anyone who is even slightly different.

He poses a clear and present danger to the world. The only good news is how all these racist and sexist pigs are outing themselves in public, letting the world see who they really are.

I know a couple that just broke up. She is a sweet, really nice girl. He was always, er, ready with the "ni99er" or "$pic" jokes. Too ready. Even when he knew that my friends and I hate that shit.

They have one kid. She just told me they are divorcing because of how he loves trump and how he is getting ever more offensive, even evil. He even wanted to carry a "clean" gun in case the rabble got out of control. No, wait, he called them vermin, apparently. I count myself as part of the vermin, in that case.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
15. Boy, did you hit the nail on the head.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

That is precisely what it looks like.
My parents escaped both hitler and Stalin in their youth, and met here in America. My dad just said he voted for Bernie.

He has been such a right winger, I almost fainted. He said trump reminds him of the worst folks he experienced as he and his parents escaped tyranny.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
16. Trump is so reminiscent of the dictators of the WWII era. And he's using
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016

many of the exact same tactics.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
6. It would be like the Fox New's 5
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:06 PM
Mar 2016

Everyone would be beautiful. And void of content. Like the W crowd but better looking.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
17. doesn't the VP have to be eligible for the presidency?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

now i know there's been some legal fog about the definition of "natural-born American" lately, but so far there's not much question that Ahnold is a natural-born Austrian.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
21. These are really scary times. I've never seen this country this polarized and with a guy like
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

Trump trying to be president.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
22. ikr? i was really scared earlier, but then it hit me...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

... the Republican nominee needs to get at least 40% of the Hispanic vote to win the presidency. W got around 45% in 2000 and it was a close race. how much do you realistically see Trump getting? 20%? 10%?

no, instead i think what we're seeing is the Republican party devolving into the party of ultra-conservative southern racism.

if Trump walks out of the convention as the GOP nominee, we're looking at a Democratic wave election in what was supposed to be an advantage Republicans year; we could even start taking back some of those legislatures that will be so important to redistricting congressional seats 4 years from now.

Trump's playing fast and loose with fascism, and no matter how you read the tea leaves it looks dangerous as all hell right now, but i do have some hope that he's bringing about the long-overdue sundering of the Republican party, rendering them impotent for a decade.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
23. I hope they disintegrate too. Trump is doing an excellent job of showing to the world what the
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:42 PM
Mar 2016

republican party is about! I see Trump getting only about 10%.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
9. This is playing like some sort of outrageous movie plot.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

When you walk out of the theatre you feel relieved nothing like this could happen in real life after all it was only a movie, and you knew the villain would be thwarted.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
12. Off with their head and the villain does not have to pay for it.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

In Trump's world the publicity is free, he does not have to pay for the dirty work or ask for donors.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
13. Ahh, that explains his approach to his wall, his Mexican wall.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

I'd bet that trump will gladly promote the fact that his Wall uses real mexicens as a secret ingredient.

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