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[Permanut]

1. I had no idea until AFTER I quit....

that was almost six years ago. Glad to get away from that addiction!

[jillan]

2. Guess you are one DUer I will never want to meet.

[catbyte]

3. There's nothing worse than a reformed smoker.

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage Even Though They Are Lower Life Forms--HISS!”

[LanternWaste]

7. They certainly illustrate the dangers of

"There's nothing worse than a reformed smoker..."

They certainly do illustrate the both the ease and the dangers of rationalizing bad habits and holding mirrors up to ourselves-- nothing worse than that, indeed.

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. Reformed Smoker ...

Recently Converted Evangelical Fundamentalist christian ... Neither are my choice of company.

[REP]

104. <3 you

[1StrongBlackMan]

110. Is that a sign of approval?

[sarcasmo]

115. I agree, my wife quit years before I knew her and she is crazy anti smoking.

[cynatnite]

5. Why's that?

I bathed today.

[Lex]

4. Yeah, I mean gosh, why don't they just stop?

And fat people, you are not attractive.

Anyone else?

/sarcasm

[Egalitarian Thug]

47. And the Indians, must be all that curry.

And you French folk, You invented soap FFS.

And those awful homeless people...

[WinkyDink]

56. Well, actually, it IS the curry! (I like curry.)

[crunch60]

66. Well actually, it's the Stinking Rose! garlic eaters. ps I love garlic

[noamnety]

6. Ugh.

That just brought back the vivid memories of one child we had over to the house to play with my daughter, and we didn't have her back because the furniture reeked so badly it was making me sick for a week or two afterwards, from the third hand smoke she introduced into the upholstery. God that was awful. Sweet kid, but I couldn't sit on the couch after she was there without my stomach turning.

I didn't tell the parents though. I don't know that they would have stopped even if they knew it was costing their kid some friends. I think they just would have been insulted.

[Prometheus Bound]

113. I had the same problem.

I didn't dare say anything because it would be so hurtful but I would find any excuse to have the child and parent visit again. A second time was unavoidable, so we put covers on all the chairs and washed them afterwards. I'm sure I must sound like a jerk to some, but it the smell makes you sick what can you do?

[pipoman]

118. OFFS..a week or two, eh?...LOLOLOL

[DCKit]

8. Nobody hates the smokers as much as an ex-smoker. nt

[cynatnite]

12. I do not hate smokers...

Unfortunately, I have members of my family that smokes. They have left their kids at the house and the children even smell like smoke.

I would think more people would be bothered by it. I was shocked and embarrassed to think that my children at one time smelled like cigarette smoke. I really wish someone had told me.

Society is too polite at times.

[Lionessa]

9. Some do some don't As with all personal hygiene,

That said, I'll take the smell of a smoker over the smell of perfume and/or cologne any day.

[crunch60]

69. When I was little and went to church, one lady doused herself in

Tabu perfume OMG, nothing worse, you could smell her a mile a way. Once almost had an asthma attack and my Dad had to take me home.

[jberryhill]

10. All the bars smell like stale beer, puke and urine now

And even I can smell that.

[RagAss]

96. Bingo...and the bathrooms make me puke in my mouth.

[jberryhill]

102. It's amazing what the cigarette smoke was covering up

[onehandle]

11. I've interviewed people who have wreaked of smoker odor.

This was for white collar office positions.

You show up stinking of anything, you probably will not get hired by me.

[DiverDave]

116. Wow, thats progressive of you.

I hope you don't need a job badly and lose out because the person doesn't like something about you.
Have you not hired someone because of that lame reason?

[amuse bouche]

13. I lived with smokers and it really does stink

but they think a breath mint and cologne eradicate the smell

At least they try and fool themselves into believing that. Smokers know very well the damage smoking does to the inside of their bodies but live in denial. Same thing with the smell. Telling them doesn't do any good. They have to make up their own minds, bite the bullet and quit

Shaming just doesn't work

[MADem]

20. You are right, I think--Shaming just doesn't work....

Nor does bullying, mocking, pestering...often as not it makes them defensive, I believe.

It's the same as any other addictive behavior. If the person is not motivated from within to change the conduct, they just won't.

[Mojorabbit]

36. I quit after 39 years

but I still love the smell of smoke.

[cthulu2016]

15. If this OP was about what offends someone about obesity

I somehow doubt it would remain un-hidden

[cynatnite]

23. Because obesity does not fall within the same vein as smoking...

Smoking is an unhealthy choice. It was not forced upon them due to mitigating factors such as genetics, medications, etc.

For many who are obese, there are mitigating factors such as genetics or medications that could contribute to being overweight. That is a far more complex issue than smoking.

[cthulu2016]

33. "mitigating factors" LOL

All addictive smokers have neurological predispositions to nicotine addiction. There is a vast difference in ease of quitting based on the number and character of different receptors in the brain, which vary widely among people. (For many people, nicotine doesn't work well at all. Just makes them feel bad.)

So what? Does that fact make them smell better? Does that fact make smoking less hazardous?

You just get off on being offensive and have found what you think is a socially acceptable way of being offensive because it is for the smelly people's own good for you to tell then they stink.

I do not drink alcohol and I can smell it someone's breath at a dozen paces. I makes me sick.

But somehow I never got around to writing an OP about it.

[cynatnite]

42. It's still apples and oranges...

Besides, they don't fully understand those gene variations which govern nicotine receptors in cells. What they have learned so far is that the predisposition is there which is tied to lung cancer. They can't explain away 90 year old smokers who never get lung cancer, people who light up an occasional cigarette and never get hooked, and other examples.

You have made a valid point. Some people can quit easier than others and this may be related. It'll be some years probably.

Smoking is very addictive no matter your predisposition, IMO. The tobacco companies have designed it this way. It's a monster to beat. Even after 5 years, I still feel like I'm battling it as I did on day one. I'm not going to pretend that this is an easy habit to drop as easily as it was picked up.

I figure this is one of those things that needs to be said because no one else is saying it. A lot of people just don't care for the truth of it.

I'm fine with that.

[crunch60]

70. There are many mitigating factors for obesity, here are a few;

Big Mac, pizza, KFC. Soda, sitting on butt to long, and of course the genetic factor as well.

[hifiguy]

16. As bad as it is, try sitting near someone who is marinated

in cheap cologne of some sort when on the bus or an airplane. You can't smoke on a bus or a plane, but you can drown yourself in scent and still ride. Barf. Double Barf. I can deal with a smoker who isn't smoking, but not that.

[Scootaloo]

43. I'm not sure which is worse on the bus

The guy who smells like damp marlboro butts, or the guy who gargles with axe.

I'll take standard-issue BO reek any day over either of them.

[raccoon]

65. Some people reek of smoke AND cheap cologne.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

[Bake]

17. And you people who fart in elevators ... do you know how bad YOU smell????

Bake

[MADem]

26. Never mind elevators--some of these modern "sealed" buildings can really

hold a "SBD"* or a crop-dusting farting effort in a larger workcenter for some time! Who's got the air freshener?

*silent but deadly

[UnrepentantLiberal]

60. I'll take a smoker over a crop-dusting farting effort any day.

[magical thyme]

111. pffft! you should try being in the lab

when we have to work up somebody's toxic pooh!

Under hood with ventilation running full steam. No matter. Stinks from one end of the lab to the other. We keep freshener spray handy, which mitigates somewhat.

People, please eat right and take care of your colon. Puleeeeeze!

[fishwax]

18. some smokers smell like stale smoke, some don't

A lot depends on how one smokes. Smoking indoors (or in the car or other enclosed spaces) intensifies the smell and its effect on clothes, etc. But many smokers don't do that.

[cynatnite]

27. Agree...

It does depend on when, where, and how often.

I have an aunt who only smokes outside her house. She does not smoke in her car or even if she is out and about. She smokes on her back porch and that's it. She still has a bit of a smell, but it's nowhere as bad as some others.

[rug]

19. What did you say?

[opiate69]

21. ...

http://m.

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. I don't think smokers smell bad, but they definitely have a distinct odor

I also didn't know about it until I quit. I can point to every smoker in the supermarket now. I smell them coming as they walk down the aisle. It's really weird, like I have those "They Live" Roddy Piper sunglasses.

[Bake]

24. Seriously? WI hangs in the balance, and you're worried about how smokers SMELL?

There are some warped priorities on display there.

Just sayin'.



Bake

[cynatnite]

31. Many people are capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time...

I can be concerned about WI and express my distaste at smelling smokers at the same time. I know folks who eat chocolate kisses, worry about global warming and read at the same time.

Just sayin'

[Bake]

37. I thought you might say that ... the ol' "chewing gum and walking" canard

But given that a lot of union members and Democrats also happen to smoke (don't know that stats, just an educated guess), why would you want to piss them off TODAY?

In fact, why ANY DAY?

Bake

[cynatnite]

44. Do you think waiting until tomorrow to give my anti-smoking message is better?

Nope, can't do that. It'll be the day after. If it goes badly, I'll be making it worse. On the other hand, if it goes great and Walker gets the boot, then I'd probably be a downer and depressing folks.

Let me check the calender for a day when it's okay to piss off smoking Dems.

[Bake]

48. Why piss off ANYBODY?

Because you can't keep your opinion to yourself? EVeryone else is entitled to your opinion?

Human Relations 101. Try it.



Bake

[cynatnite]

51. Do you know where we're at?

DU...where everyone's got an opinion about something and it's bound to piss someone off somewhere.

DemocraticUnderground 101.

[sabrina 1]

98. I like the smell of cigarette smoke, hate the smell of alcohol. To each their own.

Hope you're not trying to stop people from smoking, though. Because people who drink, smoke, eat stinky food, wear bad smelling perfume, pot smokers or any other habit humans choose to develop, don't really care what you think or what I or anyone else thinks.

If they want to stop they will. And some might even get a kick out of pissing off the finger-waggers in our society, who I think stink more than all the others put together.

[cynatnite]

108. Would you willingly inhale carcinogens knowing that they could kill you?

Second hand and third hand smoke can do a lot more damage than stinky food, bad perfume or pot.

Of course, I'll do my damndest to discourage it. There is more than just personal choice here. Kids are inhaling their parents' smoking.

This is a systemic debilitating addictive habit that does far more damage than smoking pot. I totally support legalizing pot, but it doesn't have all the carcinogens and other substances the tobacco companies have soaked in the tobacco to keep their customers hooked.

Smoking and alcohol are legal drugs, but have done far more damage than all the illegal drugs combined. Smoking gets singled out because that odor also has carcinogens in it and if you smell it, you are inhaling it against your will. Are you okay with that? Is that your choice or not?

Call me a "finger-wagger" all you like. I don't care. I've watched patients with holes in their necks attempt to talk and I've buried a lot of family who were killed by smoking. Most of my family still smokes.

My father wasted away to skin and bones in a nursing home from his smoking. It's an agonizing hellish death.

I don't feel a bit of guilt for being a "finger-wagger".

[Scootaloo]

45. Because they'll stay home, or vote Walker, because someone on DU said they smell bad?

Really?

[Bake]

49. No, becuase WHY PISS OFF ANYBODY WHO IS ON OUR SIDE?

Bake

[Scootaloo]

54. Welcome to humanity, chuck

Everyone's been pissing off everyone since the first bonobo-like hominid opened its mouth and went "Ook ook"

Smokers smell bad. it's kind of a dumb topic to start a thread on, but if that pisses off smokers... tough, not the OP's fault they live in a delusional reality where they are lightly scented of lilacs and honey.

[Bake]

57. I suspect I've been a human longer than you, so welcome yourself

Now get the hell off my lawn.



Bake

[Scootaloo]

59. I did spend some time as a potted fern in a previous life...

They kept forgetting to water me, it was terrible.

[frylock]

63. well except for the progressives..

fuck those firebaggers! am i right?

[datasuspect]

25. probably no worse than your upper lip?

i dunno.

[MoonRiver]

28. It's true.

I've never smoked and my husband doesn't smoke. But our son's girlfriend smokes and it is very noticeable when she's around. Sad, because in every other way she is great. But that is hard to deal with.

[hobbit709]

29. No one sings louder in church than a reformed sinner.

I can think of plenty of things to get worked up about, but that isn't one of them.

And before anyone jumps me about this, I quit smoking in 1975.

[SwissTony]

30. I used to get on the bus some years ago

and, for some reason, at the next stop a female smoker seemed to like to sit next to me. She was a very nice woman, but she absolutely stank of smoke.

Many years ago, I declared that nobody could smoke in my house. If you wanted to smoke, you went outside. Didn't matter if it was raining, hailing, thunder etc. You went outside. That included my mother.

Smokers stink. Full stop.

I'm not an ex-smoker. I did the usual teenage experimentation. I stopped on my thirteenth birthday.

[crunch60]

32. Thanks, we all needed you to tell us that! Such a cheery post.

now let's go have a nice cold Dortmund Union beer, to go with our Lucky Strike! Go Wisconsin! You can do it!

[cynatnite]

34. I try whenever possible...

[RebelOne]

35. I am a smoker and I know how badly my house and I smell of smoke.

Febreze is my friend for the house. And whenever I go out of the house, I do some liberal doses of perfume on my body and my hair.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

75. The perfume mixed with the cigarette smoke is just the worst smell ever.

I hate cigarette smoke smell, but the mixture will gag a maggot.

[bluerum]

38. Smokers smell. Water is wet. Sky is blue.

Cigar smokers are the pits. Worse than buttheads.

And dousing youself and your home in perfumes and air fresheners only makes it worse. More chemicals and the smoke still stinks.

[hifiguy]

107. Depends on how often you smoke cigars

and what kind of cigars one is smoking. I like a good cigar a couple of times a week. I don't think I smell.

[kestrel91316]

40. My lead assistant, bless her otherwise fabulous heart, is a smoker.

3 times a day she goes outside for her cigarette break and comes back in surrounded by a cloud of smoke that she exhales all over me for the next 15 minutes.

And I can always tell which of my clients are heavy smokers by the way their cats just reek of cigarette smoke when they come in.

[lynne]

41. LOL! Do the cologne-soakers know how horrible they smell?

Horrible enough to clog my sinus and force me to take an allergy pill. So rank I had to roll down my car window when I gave one a ride to work and I never offered to drive her again. Let's not forget the times I've changed seats in the movies due to the cologne-sogged person who sat down nearby.

There's lots of stinkers in this world, many of them due to their own choices. BTW, we haven't even talked about garlic and onion breath. Or beer breath.

Or garlic eaters who emit garlic when they sweat. Dear Lord, that has to be one of the worst odors on the planet.

Anyone who say's they don't omit any offensive odor is lying.

[nadine_mn]

71. My husband is a garlic secreter - even just a small dose of garlic at lunch in salad dressing

I can smell it by dinner on his breath. I can't stand it. Worse thing I ever did when we were newly married was make him creamy roasted garlic soup (this was before I knew what I was in store for) - oh dear god - he breathed, sweated, farted garlic for days. I couldn't be in the same room with him.

He loves garlic, so I still cook with it, but he has to keep away from me. But never again will I make that garlic soup, even though he still begs for it.

I will take a smoker any day over that.

[antigone382]

46. I really don't think playing on people's self-consciousness is a good way to elicit behavior change.

A lot of people smoke in response to stress, and exploiting peoples' sensitivity to how others perceive them is going to add to that stress, not take it away. I don't smoke and never have, but I have had my fair share of people tearing me down to try to change my behaviors, and it did not work. When I got away from them and went to the people that supported and loved me, and didn't try to make me define myself by my faults or vices, I was able to improve my behaviors substantially. Making people feel bad about themselves is not a good way to end self-destructive behavior.

[truebrit71]

50. I really had no idea until after I quit almost two years ago...

...when I stepped into an elevator with someone that had just finished a ciggie and I wanted to hurl...How come no-one punched me in the face smelling that bad???

[Arugula Latte]

84. Because if we punched you we'd have to get even closer to you.

[daaron]

52. And? nt

[NV Whino]

53. Boy is that ever true

I hired a guy once to help me out programming some stuff in FileMaker. He was a nice guy, and he didn't smoke in my house, but he exuded cigaret odor. My house smelled for days afterward. Needless to say, I muddled through the rest of the programming myself.

Bathing, colone, perfume, breath mints do nothing to mitigate the odor seeping from the smoker's pores.

[bighart]

55. One question:

How much of the missing tax revenue are you personally willing to kick in when all of the smokers quit tomorrow?

From a 2008 NY Times article
"In 2007, states collected more than $19 billion in cigarette taxes"
"The federal government, meantime, collects nearly $7 billion annually in cigarette excise taxes"

So how much of this $26 billion can we count on you for?

[cynatnite]

58. So you're on record supporting smoking for tax purposes...

Even though it's physically and financially detrimental to people and to the nation as a whole?

How many medical bills are you wiling to pay and how many graves are you willing to dig?

[bighart]

62. Just pointing out that smokers are an easy target but

there would be a whole lot of unintended consequences if there were no more smokers tomorrow.
And by the way, from April 2012:

"Obesity adds more to health care costs than smoking does, reports a study in the March Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, official publication of the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine (ACOEM)."

[cynatnite]

67. Yep, just like there are unintended consequences when there are no wars...

Because when there are no more wars that means soldiers won't have jobs, more jobs lost when we quit making bombs, etc.

The lives saved from no wars or not smoking should mean more than a tax burden. In some cases axes are a method of controlling behavior. It has been for some time. There are higher taxes on cigarettes and alcohol.

If we're not spending money on health care costs due to obesity, smoking, war-mongering then perhaps there will be an offset of sorts.

In the end, we have a healthier society.

[Arugula Latte]

86. That's okay. It will be offset by their decreased healthcare costs.

[bighart]

94. So would you support imposing a tax on everyone with a BMI over 30?

They cost the health care system more than smokers do.

[MineralMan]

61. Yes, we do know that. But hey, thanks.

We also know it's bad for us.
We also know it can cause lung cancer.

I wonder what things about yourself you don't know. I'll bet there are some such things.

But, hey, thanks for letting us know about that smell thing. Made my day, for sure.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

64. Cigar and pipe smoke are among life's most delightful smells

I gave up smoking years ago but I still miss the taste and smell. Cigarette smoke doesn't smell good to me unless it's from strong French cigarettes; Gauloises, Celtiques, or Gitanes.

[Logical]

74. Cigars stink and are gross. No idea how you feel different.

[opiate69]

80. agreed... good cigars smell nice...

I particularly like the nutty notes in a good maduro.

[KansDem]

101. Now you're talking!

I particularly like the nutty notes in a good maduro.

I smoke an occasional cigar and love the smell and taste of a maduro!

I have a friend who lives in Switzerland. Every few years he visits...and brings me a pack of Cuban cigars!

[opiate69]

103. Nice!

My wife manages a cigar lounge... no Cubans officially, but if you know the right people... lol

[raccoon]

68. Some smokers don't, but yes, the majority of them do. nt

[Swede]

72. When you go to a smokers house,after you leave,your clothes stink,too.

It is a powerful smell.

[RedCappedBandit]

73. If I smelled offensive, and wasn't aware of it, I'd hope my friends would tell me.

Just sayin.

[cynatnite]

78. I know why I was never told...

A lot of my family smoked and they couldn't tell. My husband had grown accustomed to it. I think anyone who wasn't a smoker and knew me, were being too polite.

It was only after I had stopped smoking for several months that it became apparent to me.

[Logical]

76. It amazes me how many rude smokers throw butts out the window but NONE of them ever admit doing it.

[felix_numinous]

77. Has anyone smelled

the little foreign cigarettes---they're not half as bad as American ones with all the additives. Everyone (overseas) was always offering them, to be polite and I actually smoked them for awhile. I know this is not a PC answer, but I actually like the smell of pure tobacco--I think it burns differently

[Nye Bevan]

79. They actually leave a foul-smelling trail behind themselves

when they walk through the office back to their places after a smoke break.

Let the non-smokers work harder so you can indulge your addiction, stink up the office, and leave a disgusting pile of butts on the ground in the parking lot for some poor guy to clean up. What's not to love?

[Arugula Latte]

81. I had a workman come into my house once

whose hair and clothing smelled so badly and so strongly I had to open up all the windows and let it air out for an hour. He hadn't lit up anywhere near the house. Amazingly powerful stench, that smoke.

[HopeHoops]

82. Thanks, Brooke (old commercial)

I quit in '85.

[99Forever]

83. I quit 4 years ago.

One of the best and toughest things I've ever done. And you are correct, smokers stink, and tho I thought I knew it when I was smoking, I didn't really understand just how much. That said, I promised myself something when I did quit. I would NEVER become the self-righteous sort of ass that many other "reformed smokers" were to me. It's completely counter-productive anyway and pretending that you are "doing them a favor by telling them" is nothing more than seeking a rather poor excuse for being a jerk. That's my opinion anyway, your mileage may vary.

[Gregorian]

85. As a cyclist, I think your exhaust pipe is a whole lot worse.

I think that's an important perspective people mostly don't consider.

[DearAbby]

87. And?

[taught_me_patience]

88. Of course not

They don't even realize that when they light up at a bus station, everybody can smell that shit. Or, when they light up in a crowded park, everybody withing fifteen feet can smell their toxic fumes, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE OUTSIDE.

[Blaukraut]

90. Ex smoker, and totally agree

Even while I was smoking, I hated the way it smelled. On me, the furniture, the curtains, you name it. That being said, I'm extremely sensitive to odors anyway. Garlic body odor, onion armpits, dirty-bed-sheet body odor, cooking smell in my house, clothes, and hair....I'm pretty much miserable all day unless I'm outside in the fresh air. LOL

[cynatnite]

93. You know, I hardly ever wear perfume anymore...

A lot of people are outright allergic to different smells and it can set off asthma attacks.

I love wearing perfume, but now I try to think about where I'm going before using it.

[Cairycat]

91. Having quit 25 years ago, I wouldn't nag anyone

Most smokers know how bad smoking is for their health, some will admit that second-hand smoke is injurious to others' health, maybe some might even admit the dangers of third-hand smoke (residue on clothes, etc.).

But I know that until I quit, I really had no idea just how pervasive and nasty third-hand smoke is. I bought a CD once on eBay, took most of a week to get to me, and it smelled strongly of smoke when I opened it. I've subbed on my daughter's paper route, and some houses, you could tell as soon as you got to the porch, the people smoked. In winter, with closed doors. My sister-in-law would give me lovely hand-me-downs for my kids, but they had to be washed three times to get the smoke smell out. My partner at work is a smoker. I do everything I can to avoid hanging my coat anywhere near hers, because clothing that is that saturated with smoke doesn't just smell like tobacco, it starts to almost smell like feces. I work in an elementary school. It's very easy to tell which kids have smoking parents.

So, yes, it's tough to quit, I won't nag smokers. But I think the idea that bathing takes care of the problem, that some smokers smell smoky and some don't, is baloney. Smokers smell, and it's not a pleasant smell at all.

[JoePhilly]

92. 2 stories on this ....

1) I rarely get to visit my mother's house. She smokes. Usually when I see her, she and I stay at my sister's house for a few days. Mom lives up in the PA mountains and the time to drive where she lives would reduce the time we'd actually see each other. But I do at times go to her house. The last time I went, I stayed at her house one night. I was there a little more than 24 hours. I kept my luggage bag closed almost the entire time. When I flew home, and opened that bag, everything in it smelled like cigarette smoke.

2) I take the kids to a bowling lanes. Over 10 years ago, it allowed smoking. It has a bar area, but it stopped allowing smoking inside more than 10 years ago. They pulled out all the carpet. Cleaned and painted everything. Plus 10 years. You can still smell it. Its not a strong smell. But its a background smell.

Both of my parents smoked. I never did. And it was only after I moved away, that I came to know what other things smelled like.

[Trillo]

95. "It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it.

"I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000745/quotes

[RagAss]

97. Posts like this are the dark side of DU.

...and if you smoked for 27 years and quit...good for you...but the damage may already be done.

[cynatnite]

105. If the studies are right, there is permanent damage to my heart and arteries....

I have recovered my lung function and feel better than I have in years.

[sabrina 1]

100. Finger waggers stink more! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

106. Amazing that anyone who ever smoked doesn't or didn't know they smelled of smoke. I mean really,

all you would have to do is smell your clothes before they were laundered. And, personally don't think
someone telling them they smell would be enough to quit over. If they choose to ignore the health
risks, then knowing they smell is gonna do it? I remember a NY Times article years ago that actually
called people who smoked creative, risk-takers, and living on the edge. Like, sure I smell, sure it
could kill me....I don't care...I am doing it anyway.

And, as for the health risks...NY Times has an article this past week - Now salt's ok.

[sibelian]

109. Yes.

But it doesn't matter to me. I can't smell it!

[wendylaroux]

112. The smoke covers

my old person smell.

[DiverDave]

117. Wow a self-rightous ex smoker, never see those

around

I'm glad you quit, I've tried a thousand times, maybe a 1001 will be the charm.
I do know that when I quit I wont shout at smokers.
27 years you say, I wonder how YOU felt when people
said the same to you.

[Honeycombe8]

119. What is the point of such a negative, hateful post? Are you that unhappy that you need

to walk on the graves of others? Or are you that narcisstic that you feel you have no vices?

Just because smokers stink to you, doesn't mean it smells the same to everyone, for one thing.

Another thing...don't you have something IMPORTANT to post about? Send us a list of what you do in an average day, please, so that we can do ugly posts about some of your habits. After all, that's what DU is all about! Right? Wrong.