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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think tRump will run as a third party candidate
I just can't believe his ego will take much more of this pushback from the Repub Party.
I think before long he'll takes his ball and play elsewhere.
And I will be thrilled for our side!
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TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)everyfuckingbody hates him over there
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)completely lose it because the Trumpzilla they've created is headed for the mainland!
They created this monster. They're going to have to live with it.
The central issue is that these Republicans may not like that the vast majority of their party is supporting Trumpzilla, but that's what happens when you feed your base a steady diet of fear and hate from Fox News and Limbaugh--for two decades!
These Republican nimrod "party leaders" really have no power when it comes to what their party faithful does. It's out of their hands.
They can do a great deal to trip up Trump. They've got a lot of power that way, but I think the majority of the Republican voters have gone feral. I don't think they're really listening to anyone but Trump, at this point.
A stern talking to from Mitt Romney or a few choice words from Mitch McConnell ain't putting this crazy train back on the tracks.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)That's how he got so orange, is it not.
unblock
(52,163 posts)republicans will fall in line as they always do.
c'mon, who do they think will cut taxes more, drumpf or the democrat?
they're only balking while there's still a chance to nominate someone else.
JVS
(61,935 posts)Especially with Kasich in the race, I think he'll win enough delegates
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)And I pray he loses the election.
A President Trump will tear this country apart, and be very dangerous for the world.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)Paul Ryan will make sure that Trump is nothing but a figurehead. Because the Speaker of the House has far more power then the President could ever dream of.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)and be on the winning side he'd throw his support to the Democratic nominee.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .and thereby hand the general election victory to the Democrats. Whether their nominee
is Hillary OR Bernie.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)the Democratic nominee he can just claim his endorsement made the difference.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)(Renamed from "brokered" to "open" because it sounds better), Trump will get pissed and take his new party with him. I'll cheerfully hum a requiem watching them burn down their party.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)He won't be able to get on the ballot in most states. It would have to be a write in campaign...and he is too cheap to spend his own money
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)He'll probably spend 4 years regrouping, spreading the hate and forming the new Bull Moose Party to try and paint himself as a TR progressive republican.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Turd is in charge.
ZX86
(1,428 posts)Trump has already destroyed the GOP. If Trump dropped dead tomorrow Cruz is their #2. It's all over except for the shouting.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)else jump through many hoops to get on the ballot in states--and there are fast-approaching deadlines for doing that. His other option is to encourage a write in campaign.
I think the Republicans might actually accept him rather than risk such an outcome, because they are obviously that unprincipled, but I hope they do steal the nomination from him and make him mad enough to destroy their electoral chances.
Vinca
(50,248 posts)If they're forced to give Trump the nomination, I'm betting a third option appears for Republicans to vote for. This is good news for Democrats because, with the current level of turnout, we haven't got a prayer unless they do split.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)The Republican Party doesn't have a valid path to the White House this year, and they've known it for a year, and they've spent millions having people research the problem. The problem they want to solve is that the Democrats have a two-deep bench of candidates who can defeat any Republican.
(The problem they don't want to solve is that their predatory practices have literally killed off a critical percentage of voters, and now the GOP has a difficult time winning statewide elections, much less a national one like the Presidency.)
Clinton, Sanders, and Biden have all polled higher than the entire Republican clown car, and Romney, and Ryan. Left to its own inertia, the majority of American people intend to destroy the GOP forever, before the decade is out.
So the American people cannot be permitted to decide.
Therefore the only chance they have is to fall back on the gerrymandered House of Representatives, and the only way they can kick the election into the House is by (also, secretly) backing a third-party candidate who can take electoral votes away from the Democratic candidate so that no candidate wins a majority of electoral votes.
At that point, the House simply has to do what they do best, nothing, and by not selecting a President the Speaker of the House inherits the office by default, without a theft-vote that would doom a hundred Republican Congressmen in 2018. This is why the incompetent and alcoholic John Boehner had to be maneuvered out of the Speakership. The next Speaker will be elected in January and it's important that the evil inner circle already has their guy in place before then--and that guy is Paul Ryan.
Republican voters are stupid but Republican leadership is diabolically evil. They have two paths to a contested election:
1) Steal it from Trump and he is guaranteed to run as a third party. Then the GOP can quietly toss money to Trump in the states that they think he can take from the Democratic candidate above the Mason-Dixon line, where only he has a chance of winning against, say, Mrs. Clinton;
2) Let Trump have it and allow the oligarchs to run an establishment conservative as a third-party candidate. Kasich would be a good choice because he has a chance of bagging Ohio and maybe other rust-belt states.
It's a dangerous game that, if not played well, would guarantee a win for the Democrats and might also lose them the Senate. It's a short-term gambit as well, because it's certain to add to the ranks of people who will never again vote Republican, like all of us. The movement in this direction is obvious to me and others, and we should be asking about the bigger picture at this point, because this is a works-once move that is unlikely to be duplicated in the future. So why would they do it?
Looking beyond this election at the next census, the numerous prosecutions for gerrymandering and election irregularity, and the increasing ability of statistics to correctly detect when votes are being flipped, it's clear to me that the inner circle of the GOP isn't just looking for a candidate that can save them now; they are looking for the last Constitutionally-approved American President, who will become America's first President-for-life. Their evil ways have consumed their own electorate, and the powers that be are increasingly looking for some sort of tryant that they can install so that their increasingly less effective election thieving can be replaced by the smoky backroom dealings that have always determined the course of the GOP and the United States.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)That this election may be our one-and-only chance to kill the Republican party forever.
Senator Obama overcame Republican election-theft plans in '08 by building an overwhelming base of support, and he has brilliantly made himself relevant again by effectively putting himself in the running against every GOP Class III Senator up for election this year, as a mandate in favor of his Supreme Court nominee.
But we need something that keeps the knuckle-draggers at home while informed voters become aware of the fact that nothing changes if the House of Representatives is not flipped.
Trump could help us greatly by seeing the writing on the wall, accepting the theft of his nomination, and running instead as a write-in candidate for the House. That's sure to shave a couple percent off of every Republican Congressman's advantage, because Trump's voters are unlikely to understand that Trump is only running in one of 435 districts, and they'll write him in for their district, too.
That's the only thing I can think of that would still appeal to Trump's narcissistic personality disorder while preventing him from damaging Democratic Presidential chances. It also pads his resume for a future run and, once he realized that being a politician entails actual work, he is likely to lose interest in future runs against us.
There is another outside possibility, which is to attack Trump psychologically in hopes of triggering a self-esteem crash just before the election, to get him to meekly apologize for his evil ways just before the election and ask that the people do the right thing for once. That's actually highly possible. Consider the fact that GW Bush, who is also a narcissist, had to spend two years on vacation because self-realization incapacitated him for nearly one-quarter of his Presidency. Trump has an indentifiable and exploitable character flaw and we'd be fools not to turn it to our advantage, before Vladimir Putin turns it to his.