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Ebeling was the first to sound the alarm the morning before the Challenger launch. He called his boss, Allan McDonald, who was Thiokol's representative at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Despite hours of argument and reams of data, the Thiokol executives relented. McDonald says the data were absolutely clear, but politics and pressure interfered.
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"He said, 'The Challenger's going to blow up. Everyone's going to die,' " Serna recalls. "And he was beating his fist on the dashboard. He was frantic."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/21/470870426/challenger-engineer-who-warned-of-shuttle-disaster-dies
Festivito
(13,452 posts)I designed a program that tested tensile strength of rubber and I did a special program for O-rings. Nothing really. Just to get user input, start the pull, computer monitor the pull while the clamps holding the rubber moved up, detecting a break and resetting the machine. Then calculating the cross area using the o-ring diameter or thickness of die cut rubber.
One of the lab guys who tested o-rings told me about the freezing problem he had noticed.
That rocket was outside on the launch pad that night. Must have been delays that day so they gave up for the night. That freeze should have scrubbed the launch so new o-rings could go in. That would cost a small fortune.
They probably wanted to save money. Just like our Republican governor of Michigan who wanted save money on water treatment for Flint, Michigan and ends up with 10 dead, 80 sick, and I do not know how many kids looking at a lifetime of reduced abilities. That day ended with dead astronauts, a nation sick to its stomach and kids around the world with reduced hopes of a future in space.
Reagan had reasons other than money for not wanting that launch scrubbed. Whatever that was won't be released, nor will any his involvement in that decision.
Please, never, ever, ever vote for right wing buffoons.
teamster633
(2,029 posts)...St. Ronnie's State of the Union speech was scheduled for that evening and the Teacher in Space was going to figure prominently in the speech. The astronauts' value as props had to be weighed against any potential danger that they faced.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)So, how much did he push a deadly win-win situation onto NASA? It would be like telling us who orchestrated JFKs death.
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)Here is a paragraph from wiki's article on the disaster.
On the night of the disaster, President Ronald Reagan had been scheduled to give his annual State of the Union address. He initially announced that the address would go on as scheduled, but then postponed the State of the Union address for a week and instead gave a national address on the Challenger disaster from the Oval Office of the White House. It was written by Peggy Noonan, and was listed as one of the most significant speeches of the 20th century in a survey of 137 communication scholars.[31][32] It finished with the following statement, which quoted from the poem "High Flight" by John Gillespie Magee, Jr.:
I won't copy here the sickening sugary rhetoric Ronald used, trying to fit the disaster into the soap opera of his presidency. A disaster probably forced by his pressure to have the launch go forward, so that he could use the imagery in his scheduled speech.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)explaining further, putting a pin in the balloon, drawing back the curtain.
Peggy Noonan is nauseating on tv, with fake sincerity dripping from every aspect of her face and voice. Seems to me that Cokie Roberts is cut closely from the same piece of cloth.
Go Bernie!
MinM
(2,650 posts)That's exactly how I recall it too. Revisionist history has tried to whitewash Reagan's role in the disaster but you are correct.
The problem was the O-Rings that acted to seal the connections between the different stages of the rocket wouldn't seal correctly at cold temperatures. That morning was especially cold, below freezing iirc, but due to the SOTU speech scheduled that evening there was enormous pressure applied by the White House on NASA to launch in spite of their reservations.
So the opportunity to make a few cheap political points in a SOTU speech that night for Ronald Reagan trumped the safety of those astronauts.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)And (cold) fuel was left in the tank to avoid the time it takes to unfuel and then refuel. Add the wind blowing, where the failed SRM was downwind of the (cold) tank.
I was planning to watch the launch on TV. I got tied up and tuned in to see the infamous smoke trails. I pointed at the screen and said, "Management. The engineers didn't do this."
As mentioned above, Reagan was delivering the SoTU address that night. The crew was a telegenic multi-ethnic and disciplined group, in addition to a teacher. Hollywood ready.
Wanna heave your guts?? Look up what happened to Columbia and the guy that got reprimanded for trying to bring the Air Force in.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Yep. Like Volkswagen trying to blame some rogue programmer. Riiiiiight.
Waldorf
(654 posts)when my wife called.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I totally lost it. People were asking me if a friend was on the shuttle. No, I said, but I've been enthralled with space since I was a child. Plus those were people even if I didn't know them personally.
Reter
(2,188 posts)I don't remember hearing about this in 1986. In fact, this is the first time I heard it. There should have been hearings calling for the bosses arrest.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Who am I, chopped liver?
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Rest in peace Bob Ebeling.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Akamai
(1,779 posts)Poor, poor person - you can do the correct things and still be blamed for the mess-ups of others.
Good for you, Ebeling! all you can do is all you can do! And as Bernie says, "Despair is not an option!" But good for you Ebeling!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/22/finally-free-from-guilt-over-challenger-disaster-an-engineer-dies-in-peace/
Go Bernie!
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Goodbye civilian space agency. They knew it would blow up and did it on purpose. The next shuttle to go up had over 10 lbs of plutonium on it for an experiment...enough to give the entire east coast cancer in days if an explosion occurred. They werent worried about it because they knew the first one was allowed to happen.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)What they did in the aftermath of Challenger was to close their own shuttle facility at Vanderburg AFB.
So they then hijacked even more flights.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)but I remember feeling very uneasy before the launch. There were icicles hanging the night before. They showed that on tv and I just somehow felt that just didn't seem right. That they shouldn't do it.
Bless this poor man who tried so hard to stop them. He was caring and righteous up against evil people who were just using the shuttle launch and didn't give a damn about the lives of the crew or the horror for the rest of us.
Dr. Xavier
(278 posts)before the disaster, she was on her way up the ladder at Hughes. The explosion destroyed her life, she blamed herself, and left Hughes shortly afterward... she has been working on a Ph.D. in physics ever since. She will never finish and will never work in the industry ever again. I guess it is toughest on the people that are left behind...
liberalfromaustin21
(61 posts)Anyway, may Ebeling rest in peace.