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[bravenak]

1. She is a loyal democrat

Sure she hold positions I hate, but that doesn't mean she's evil. Nice lady, really.

[HERVEPA]

4. No, she is not a loyal Democrat. Educate yourself.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/9/16/1421914/-Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz-The-Manchurian-Chair

"The warning signs have been there for years. As co-chair of the "Red to Blue" campaign to help increase Democratic seats in the House, she refused to support the Democrats running against three potentially vulnerable Florida Republicans - Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Mario Diaz-Balart - because of her friendship with those Republicans".

[fbc]

24. +1

[Cryptoad]

25. + 1000 nt

[billhicks76]

28. She Gets An F At Her Job

She LOST the house and senate. And you support that? This has to be about corruption. There is no other explanation. The emporer wears no clothes. I prefer a party head that wins elections.

[Cryptoad]

40. Not in Mine and Prez Obama Grade Book,,,,,,,

Local and National organizations are two different balls of wax. Debbie done great job with National elections

[billhicks76]

42. Executive Only

[redruddyred]

27. loyal to the people who count

whether or not they're "democrats" is debateable

[highprincipleswork]

39. She is a loyal Corporatacrat!

I'm really wondering when folks will wake up to the fact that these leaders of our party do not represent the average American, Black or White or any flavor, anymore. It is increasingly just so shockingly obvious.

If we don't wake up, and come together around someone with a plan to fix this, we are really going to be drowning, each and every one of us, from the most unfortunate all the way through the middle class.

They are Corporatacrats. They work for the corporations and the elites. They do not work for us, even when they pretend to.

Oh, they may throw a crumb from time to time. That's another thing they will do, to keep us believing and hooked.

But,
Who is going to fight Climate Change, like the end of the world scenario it is quickly becoming?
Who is going to really fight for some kind of economic prosperity for all Americans, not just the few?
Who is going to keep us from our usual interventionist ways in too much war?
Who is really going to be steadfast in fighting racial injustice?

I know my answer, and I remain confident (through his actions and words over so many years) that he will remain true to all these causes.

[Arugula Latte]

44. Wow.

She's not a loyal Democrat; she's actively working to undermine traditional Democratic issues and positions and candidates who stand up for them.

[bravenak]

47. She did in Florida and it was ugly

That is why I said she hold positions I hate. But she is a party loyalist

[hrmjustin]

2. In the end the only opinion that counts are the voters of her district.

[gsb54]

12. Not! She affects the ENTIRE Democratic Party

[hrmjustin]

14. True but the only opinions that truely matter are the voters of her district.

The rest of us ard just well talking.

[gsb54]

15. I still disagree

I understand what your point is. Yet, I 1000's of people in this country are in the democratic party of which she leads. She does answer to all of us in that respect.

[hrmjustin]

16. And you can tell her how you are feeling with your donations.

[scscholar]

17. This. It is their choice!

By trying to force them to do otherwise is to subvert democracy.

[TDale313]

3. He nominated her for DNC chair, didn't he?

So not really a surprise. But disappointing.

[desmiller]

19. Very disappointing.

[billhicks76]

33. Deals Were Made

It was about Hillary from the get go. Can anyone defend this? Unbelievable. No wonder people are fed up with democrats as much as rethugs.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/27/hillary-clinton-charged-300k-for-ucla-speech-deman/

[jwirr]

45. I have always wondered what kind of deal was made in 2008

to get Hillary to finally concede? Was she promised it would be her turn?

[floriduck]

5. At what point does the party who's lost

so many Senate, a House and State seats, hold its leader responsible. Even a major league sports team would have dumped her years ago. What exactly IS her primary function as Chairperson for the Democratic National Committee?!

"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is the formal governing body for the United States Democratic Party. The Committee coordinates strategy to Democratic Party candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

[MisterP]

9. 11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats, and left with 26% of the electorate

but it's the VOTERS' fault

[floriduck]

11. And her bosses fault. He is now oblivious to middle class needs.

It's very disappointing from someone I voted for twice.

[MADem]

36. Well, we don't put people in office by decree.

We don't teach civics in school anymore, either....

I vote. I don't miss an election, even when my state holds them at stupid times.

[TDale313]

34. To get Hillary elected.

Everything else is window dressing.

[Cassiopeia]

6. TPP

She'll help him get it passed this November.

[LuvLoogie]

7. Head coach supporting his team captain.

[MADem]

8. Maybe it's you that's out of touch. He hired her to be DNC chair and he obviously is satisfied with

the job she is doing.

As for her work as a representative, that will be the decision of the people in her district--not people who don't live in her district.

Challenger notwithstanding, I think she'll win handily. Her constituent services are pretty good.

Joe Biden has been stumping for Alan Grayson's opponent down in FL, too. I wonder if he'll find time to help her raise a few bucks?

Why would Obama want to talk to you? Or any of the people in the big Dem tent who have been calling him names for the last eight years? He knows his own mind. All the people he likes, you want to toss out. There's nothing, really, to discuss.

[GummyBearz]

20. Maybe its you who is out of touch

"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is the formal governing body for the United States Democratic Party. The Committee coordinates strategy to Democratic Party candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office."

D's have lost 900+ of these local, state, and national offices. Great job eh?

[MADem]

21. The President of the United States is the HEAD of the party.

He (not you) hires the chair of the Democratic NATIONAL committee.

So no--I'm not out of touch.

Here ya go:

http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/wasserman-schultz-to-lead-dnc-052605

President Barack Obama has chosen Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz as the incoming chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, the party announced late Tuesday.
Wasserman Schultz, 44, was chosen for her strength as a fundraiser and as a television messenger and for her clout in the crucial swing state of Florida, the sources said.
Story Continued Below
She will succeed Tim Kaine, who announced earlier Tuesday that he will run for U.S. Senate from Virginia.
The committee announced the choice in an email to members from Vice President Joe Biden.
“In selecting Debbie to lead our party, President Obama noted her tenacity, her strength, her fighting spirit and her ability to overcome adversity,” Biden wrote.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/wasserman-schultz-to-lead-dnc-052605#ixzz44GYQVtN3

[GummyBearz]

48. Thanks for that insight

Now, given how poorly DWS has performed, shouldn't the person who hired her also fire her?

[MADem]

49. He likes her--in fact, he endorsed her in her PRIMARY run, as did Biden. nt

[billhicks76]

29. She Lost House, Senate, Governors, State Houses

She's a complete failure. Bush also gave the Medal of Honor to Rumsfeld etc. This is no different. It's about cover. I really have to question people's intelligence not seeing this.

[MADem]

35. Take it up with Barack. I'm sure he'll get right on it. nt

[Else You Are Mad]

10. DWS is no progressive.

Nor is Obama. They are the new breed of what the media calls 'progressive democrats.' In reality, they are corporatist moderates that aren't warmongering neocons.

[dogman]

13. She fought for him against Dean and the DNC when they ran the game on him.

She is therefore an experienced team player. Not at all surprising.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

18. FEAR

she must see trouble ahead

[Duckfan]

23. There is a title/name for someone like her who has a "D" by their name and voted with Repukes.....

..in Florida.

DINO: Democrat In Name Only!

And for the record, I think the people in her district would be happy to have Tim representing them instead of DINO Debbie.

[Cryptoad]

26. That Bern doesn't like her

tells me all I need to know abt her. Prez got it right!

[Omaha Steve]

30. FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here

Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova

[Duppers]

31. Im sending Tim Canova a 3rd donation.

to Pres. Obama for this stupid, ignorant .......move!

[davidthegnome]

32. Yep...

I have pretty much always liked Obama - he's made some decisions that pissed me off, that I criticized him for, but I never really disliked him. This though, strikes me as beyond out of touch, I think it's entirely possible that he's simply thumbing his nose at those of us who are really angry with what Dear Sweet Debbie has been up to. In other words, he's giving us the finger.

While I do like Obama... his associations with the likes of Tim Geithner, Arne Duncan, Rahm Emanuel and others... has, at times, made me think to myself... WTF? It should be considered that his endorsement of DWS is not a sort of behavior that is uncommon for him, nor has he actually proven tough on corporate or Wall Street corruption, financial regulation - and so on and so forth. I voted for Obama because he denounced the Iraq war from the start, because I thought he had some great ideas about getting health insurance for everyone. There were a lot of questions though, that were never really answered - and a lot of campaign promises that I pretty much knew were just fluff.

I can't say I'm terribly shocked by this. I was shocked when Howard Dean had some pretty interesting things to say about unions... I was shocked when I learned what his current line of work is and what his current affiliations are - I always thought he was different, a kind of progressive champion. To be proven wrong on that one was really disappointing. Obama though? Not so shocked, we have example after example of some very questionable political appointments... and in the case of DWS and even Obama... they are not of the 99%. They will retire with everything they ever wanted or dreamed of. Millions of dollars for themselves and their descendants. Some of the greatest benefits available anywhere on earth - with lots and lots of awesome, easy, cushy job prospects going forward.

They do not live in the same world as most of the rest of us - not even remotely.

[JohnnyRingo]

37. Obama's the head of the Democratic Party...

Schultz is the head of the Democratic National Committee.

Your shock that there's a connection between the two is surprising, almost unbelievable.

[6000eliot]

38. It's called party loyalty.

[Katashi_itto]

41. The Democratic Party doesnt represent the People. It represents corporate interests. Hence another

corporate candidate.

[jwirr]

43. And Mr. President did you see how many down tickets she

has lost since you placed her at the head of the DNC? You got the blame for those loses because the propaganda said you were doing a poor job. But I think it was the other way around. DWS and the DNC did not back you once you were in the WH.

[Worried senior]

46. I got slammed yesterday

on Twitter for saying I didn't care for her.

They talk about Bernie supporters being mean, these were no better and in an election year we should never criticize anyone leading our party.

Should we all walk lockstep, criticism is what makes things better.

I did block one that was going off on this, have seen many other remarks from her and the hateful way she speaks about Bernie is too much. Don't like, don't agree with him but don't be hateful like the repubs are.