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Trump starting to lose is bad for us...... (Original Post) Logical Mar 2016 OP
I think a loon like Cruz is also good for us... Cooley Hurd Mar 2016 #1
I don't think Bernie has a problem with either Kasich or Cruz. nt floppyboo Mar 2016 #2
I think both will garner the same end result, disaster for the GOP. Rex Mar 2016 #3
Yes. Trump acts crazy, but Cruz = crazy Albertoo Mar 2016 #9
I agree with your down thread reply, neither seem very electable. Rex Mar 2016 #11
I think Trump is mostly acting Albertoo Mar 2016 #15
Cruz can act sane, Trump is an idiot who will not fake it. nt Logical Mar 2016 #12
Trump is a cunning populist, Cruz is a batshit crazy religious loon Albertoo Mar 2016 #14
This! smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #30
Okay,just take a breath, Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #4
+10000000 Rex Mar 2016 #5
After watching the Evening News, Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #7
Either is fine for us. A brokered convention even better. morningfog Mar 2016 #6
Trump is not very electable, but Cruz even less Albertoo Mar 2016 #8
I disagree, Trump can't even fake it, Cruz can in the GE. He is a worry. nt Logical Mar 2016 #10
Cruz is actually a bigger worry to the GOP Major Nikon Mar 2016 #21
Hope you are right! nt Logical Mar 2016 #22
FINGERS CROSSED leeroysphitz Apr 2016 #33
We can beat either of those lunatics. DCBob Mar 2016 #13
That is the real point here, this election is ours to lose. Rex Mar 2016 #16
Yes, I think that's correct. DCBob Mar 2016 #17
Ugh...and of course that would be his moment. Every news camera would be waiting on his next word. Rex Mar 2016 #20
I agree - I don't want to "stop Trump" - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #18
Don't forget. If they don't give Trump the nomination, about 4-6 million Republicans world wide wally Mar 2016 #19
I agree, but not just because Trump is easy to beat edhopper Mar 2016 #23
Screw that Cruz nominee action TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #24
If you had told me the GOP nom will be Trump or Cruz last March ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #25
Trump doesn't want Trump. Besides, if we can't beat Cruz then we deserve what we get n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #26
That's right. We need to want to beat their best whatever it is. Phentex Apr 2016 #29
Birther moment coming soon Politicalboi Mar 2016 #27
I am hoping that Trump will help turn Texas blue Gothmog Apr 2016 #28
Either one we beat by 46 states. ileus Apr 2016 #31
Cruz scares me. Down to my bones. mainer Apr 2016 #32
I'm in the "either one is good for us" camp myself Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #34
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. I think a loon like Cruz is also good for us...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

I fear Kasich over the three of them. He sounds *kinda* sane compared to the other two.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. I think both will garner the same end result, disaster for the GOP.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

However, Cruz strikes me as religiously insane enough to start WWIII.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. I agree with your down thread reply, neither seem very electable.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

But Cruz scares me in the End of the World kinda way...Trump is just too loose a canon for me to guess.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
15. I think Trump is mostly acting
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:49 PM
Mar 2016

Besides, his crazy acts hides some cunning moves:
- put pressure on allies to share financial burden
- put pressure on Mexico to be cautious about where they tread re: the US
- put pressure on IS/Putin by not ruling out nukes

Hardball negotiation. Not very dignified, but definitely some cunning.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Okay,just take a breath,
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

look around and you will see this,this our election to lose. Whether it is Hillary or Bernie,it is ours to lose if people decide to stay home.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
21. Cruz is actually a bigger worry to the GOP
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016

Because while Trump might fuck up their chances for the executive branch in one election, Cruz will fuck up everything for a generation.

“We’re going to have wholesale losses in Congress and state offices and governors and legislatures.”
-- Bob Dole

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arnold-steinberg/dole-goes-after-cruz-but_b_9056162.html

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. That is the real point here, this election is ours to lose.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

There are not enough extremists to vote either one into office.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Yes, I think that's correct.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

The only thing that scares me more about Trump would be if we had a terrorist incident just prior to the Nov election, that might cause many voters to switch to Trump.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. Ugh...and of course that would be his moment. Every news camera would be waiting on his next word.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

Let's keep our fingers crossed that we are right and the numbers won't be enough. Of course we have to get as many people out to vote as we can, I will be driving voters to the polling booths. I do every election for people that don't have the means.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
18. I agree - I don't want to "stop Trump" -
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

I don't believe Trump is entirely the right wing gasbag he acts like. A lot of it yes but not entirely. He's got psychological issues but he isn't crazy.

Cruz on the other hand is 100% right wing religious zealot crackpot.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
19. Don't forget. If they don't give Trump the nomination, about 4-6 million Republicans
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

that voted for him won't be going out to support the guy they give it to.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
23. I agree, but not just because Trump is easy to beat
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

many GOPers will stay home if Trump is the nominee. Better to take the Senate and gains in the House.
Also easier to run against Repugs if Trump is the party leader.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
29. That's right. We need to want to beat their best whatever it is.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

I'd say whomever but I don't count them as people.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. Birther moment coming soon
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:49 PM
Mar 2016

The Donald ain't gonna let that go by. And his ego is big enough to run on his own. Since he's friends with Hillary, maybe they have a plan. Split the GOP and she'll give him an appointment.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
34. I'm in the "either one is good for us" camp myself
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

Rubio, Kasich, or Bush were the ones that I was most concerned with due to their more "mainstream/moderate" appearances. I would be sort of concerned if Mitt wound up the nominee as well for the same reason but since that's not likely to happen, Rubio and Bush have now withdrawn, and Kasich is going nowhere fast, it's looking like the contest will be down to Trump or Cruz and, frankly, although Trump is an idiot blowhard, Cruz honestly scares me more because he's a "true believer" and his agenda is scary. I don't want to see either of them elected President and I think Hillary or Bernie could take either one down in the GE.

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