David Brock's hardball tactics worry Clinton supporters

[Pharaoh]

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Key Democratic players are worried that Hillary Clinton ally David Brock could be hurting her image and hampering her chances of winning the presidency.


In interviews over the past month, Clinton donors, fundraisers and operatives have told The Hill that the concerns about Brock’s comments, particularly some of his attacks on Bernie Sanders, stretch all the way to the top of Clinton’s political machinery.
A leading figure in the Democracy Alliance, the liberal equivalent of the conservative Koch brothers’ donor network, said donors he associates with would like to put Brock “back in the can.”

“I have heard people express concern that what he does could be harmful generally” to the campaign, the donor said.

Longtime Clinton fundraiser Bill Brandt, an Illinois-based businessman and personal friend of Bill Clinton, said of Brock, “David is well meaning but I think perhaps like a zealot. He should keep it in check a bit. I don’t think this needs to be about tearing Bernie down. … It’s getting nasty and it doesn’t need to be.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/269791-david-brocks-hardball-tactics-worry-clinton-supporters

[noretreatnosurrender]

1. Too Late To Put The Toothpaste Back in the Tube

It’s getting nasty and it doesn’t need to be.”

Getting nasty? It's been nasty from the get go. They've burned all of their bridges.

[daleanime]

11. +1

[HooptieWagon]

30. Yep. Nt

[Avalux]

2. Sigh. When you decide to sell your soul be careful -

you may not like the new owner.

Hillary wanted to win so badly, she adopted GOP tactics (even more extreme than 2008) and hired a GOP hit man.

It didn't work out so well last time, so her brilliant plan was to double down?

[grasswire]

3. His tactics are especially good at alienating young women.

So it seems. And he's sure destroying all hope that anyone but her faithful will GOTV for the GE.

[Avalux]

5. I think you're right about that. Hillary just can't stop the madness. n/t

[grasswire]

8. thanks to social media

A scolding, nannying, bossy older woman, finger pointing, yelling......? Yeah, that is so easily scorned and mocked on twitter.

[passiveporcupine]

23. She's too much on the defensive all the time

I don't believe she thinks she can win without someone like him balancing the playing field for her.

She really does not seem to understand how bad this is for her. And has been since the beginning.

[Kittycat]

6. Young women?

He's alienating whole states. And now Caucuses are flipping on them. May & June will be interesting.

[nashville_brook]

4. kinda like when Bill hired Dick Morris.

[Avalux]

7. LOLOL I remember that.

Then ol' Dickey ended up on Faux trash-talking the Clintons.

[noretreatnosurrender]

9. I think Brock

will write a tell-all book about the Hillary campaign. He's a snake. He's probably already ingratiating himself with Trump or Cruz.

[AlbertCat]

16. Brock will write a tell-all book about the Hillary campaign.

Oh man. "Blinded by the Right" was a thing to behold. It was great...but you kept asking yourself after about page 7 "David, dear, why would you have expected otherwise?" Rang true tho'.... even if it was disingenuous revenge.

[Major Nikon]

12. Even Faux won't have anything to do with the toe sucker anymore

"Romney by a landslide!" was pretty much the last straw.

[Avalux]

13. I don't know how he can show his face in public after that blunder.

Toe sucker is an apt description.

[Scootaloo]

15. Was it by a landslide, or IN a landslide?

Having witnessed landslides, i think it's a very important distinction

[Hydra]

10. I'm glad SOMEONE is paying attention

A little late though- I think someone did the numbers and realized that alienating 50%+ of the party is going to be a bad thing for the GE.

[MFM008]

27. your alienating yourselves

I have never heard 1 Clinton supporter say they wont vote for Sanders.Can we just get back to hating republicans?

[Fumesucker]

31. Then clearly Sanders is more likely to win the general

Since all of Hillary's supporters will vote for Sanders while not all Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary.

[Scootaloo]

14. That's why she's working with him.

he tore down Anita Bryant. he tore down other democrats for a living. So Clinton hooked up with him for his tear-down expertise.

It's not rocket science.

[AlbertCat]

17. David Brock's hardball tactics worry Clinton supporters

Well, they still have that graphic of her whipping off her shoulder....so not to worry!

[Wounded Bear]

18. I've heard that Hillary has never improved her approval ratings in a campaign...

Brock might be the wrong guy to reverse that trend.

[ish of the hammer]

20. To know, know, know Hillary is NOT to love, love, love her!

As the song goes.

[floriduck]

22. Hillary's choice of Brock is just one more

bonehead decision she has made. It's a habit with her. When she comes to the fork in the road, she chooses the wrong route every single time. It's like clockwork with her. I just can't empathize with someone who walks right in to the rock wall every time. There is no learning experience with someone like her.

[renate]

28. I think you're right

She doesn't make good choices. I liked Hillary just fine before the primary. Now, if she's the nominee, I will vote for her, but kind of like how you handle a dirty diaper. You know it has to be done, and you love the kid, but ew.

And I don't think it's her fault. It's her horrible, horrible campaign. I do empathize with her because she lived so long in Bill's narcissistic shadow; this should finally be her time to shine and she sees the respect and admiration slipping away because of her lousy choice of advisers. And sure, also some personal weakness (hint: do not lose your cool with a Greenpeace activist unnecessarily, and do not ask a reporter whether he meant did you wipe the servers with a cloth). Still, if she's the nominee and people hate Cruz as much as we hear they do, it'll be nice to have the first female President. I wish it had been Elizabeth Warren, but there's still hope for that someday.

[Volaris]

29. I voted for Sanders in the primary.

If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Party nominee, I will vote for her in the general.

If after her first 3 years in office she hasn't

A) gotten a Blue Congress elected
B) gotten (or allowed) that Blue Congress to pass Publicly-funded Elections

I WILL NOT SUPPORT HER RE-ELECTION. She can get primaried, say 'I was the first female President' and then we can all elect someone who cares more about the job than the Job TITLE.

After the RIDICULOUSLY INCOMPETENT job that DWS has done as Party Chair and the relative success and actual popular and financial support of and for the Sanders campaign, I don't thing those 2 things are too much to fucking ask.

If she does, then there WILL be a problem. I WILL NOT agree to disagree any longer. If she can't do the job we elect her to do, then we can find SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL.

[grasswire]

26. yes, that is true.

I suppose she would not ever be able to fire him, either. He knows too much, and could flip on her.

[scottie55]

19. Attacking Bernie Won't Work Hillary / Brock

Pretending to be him is your only chance.

Hopefully no one will notice right?

[Kall]

21. Gee whiz.

Who was responsible for bringing this guy on board anyway?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. Meanwhile Hillary gets to pretend she doesn't know about it...

Just like she pretends the fossil fuel industry isn't funding her campaign.

[billhicks76]

25. He's Her PitBull

The fault lies with her at the top.

[tularetom]

32. She made her bed

Now she's stuck with the consequences. There's nothing she can do about Brock, he knows where the bodies are buried, and she knows he'd sing like a canary if the price was right (or if he needed to keep his own ass out of jail).

[Hell Hath No Fury]

33. Once a ratfucker...

always a ratfucker. (As noted in my sig line.)

What she didn't learn in 2008 is that it is a turnoff to voters, especially Democratic voters. I was sickened by some of what her campaign was involved with against O. Brock really went down the shit path with the whole "Bernie was demeaning to his wife" bullshit he pulled. It was nauseating and it only succeeded in backfiring on him/her.

[leftofcool]

34. Pfft!

[Vinca]

35. They should be worried.

The only thing he's accomplishing is making it harder for her to bring Bernie supporters into the fold should the time come. And she will need Bernie supporters.

[Chemisse]

36. Locking

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