Hey, Bill Clinton! The people that were responsible for crack cocaine were your friends, your white

[ghostsinthemachine]

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Friends. Fuck you, you tone deaf asshole.
https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+and+george+bush+photo&oq=clinton+and+george+bush+photo&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l3.17203j0j4&client=tablet-android-digiland&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=PVUd5QaCUrB1gM%3A
That is you being chummy with the most henious criminal in the history of the world right? The guy who traded
arms for cocaine (again) and then ordered the CIA to distribute it to the inner cities in the US? Fuck him and fuck you.

"Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748.html

[ViseGrip]

1. Yes, Barry and the Boys, (Barry Seal) Mena, etc.

[Kalidurga]

2. Thanks bunches

I remember talking to people about this in 1998. That is when liberals I know really started to hate him. When welfare reform happened some of them even stopped being Democrats. I went to an event where a lady who was a professional story teller wove those facts into a story and then talked about the difference between AA people who use drugs and white people. The difference I am sure will shock you white doctors don't get arrested but 20 something AA people do and they do hard time in prison.

[polly7]

3. +1,000,000. nt.

[Dragonfli]

4. Good post, I keep thinking this is common knowledge but forget that many authoritarian followers

Of personality cult campaigns lack common knowledge in order to leave room for propaganda.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

32. I seriously think Bill is losing it.

He looks and sounds horrible.

[MisterP]

5. smashing the dealers and enabling the traffickers is their bag in Honduras, too

[Warren DeMontague]

6. right, but the good news is, now we have prisons full of pot smokers.

I don't know what anyone is complaining about.

[Thespian2]

7. K & R !!!!

America's crime families...Clintons and Bushes...

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. +1000000

[wouldsman]

8. Clinton pardons Rich, leaves Mamia abu Jamal to rot?

Tells us he is the first black president.
?

[Doctor Who]

34. Mamia shot Officer Dan Faulkner in the face.

He's a piece of sh*t who should rot in jail until he's dead.

[zentrum]

9. Bush Senior

…..has referred to Clinton as his 5th son.

[MrMickeysMom]

10. I'm gonna start a new fund for "Save the tone deaf assholes"...

It just sounds so worthy of a cause.

Best of luck, Bill!

[Mark 750]

11. Chris Mathews and David Corn also helped bring down Gary Webb

Read this article and see how our real liberal media deals with this, read through and see Mathews and Corn's names come up, sad, really sad. See" Kill The Messenger" .

http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/12/17/how-the-press-and-the-cia-killed-gary-webb-s-career/

[shadowmayor]

17. Thank you Mark

Some on DU are averse to Counterpunch - but I'm amazed by the number of essays and articles that show up on their site that others refuse to print or publish. That our newspapers are in the pocket of the CIA etc. isn't news, that the so-called liberal-left media carries water for these agencies should never be forgotten. RIP Mr. Webb.

[Mark 750]

19. Thanks

Thank, but I just gave the link. I wish I had the knowledge and insight of some of these brave writers. We really have to move past the manipulated(CIA) Reader's Digest version of history and learn the truth. Many new facts have emerged over the years from FOIA and declassification docs. Good researchers and writers are now piecing the real facts together - making some people very uncomfortable and defensive.

[shadowmayor]

20. For what it's worth

I thought the Jeremy Renner movie Kill the Messenger was fairly well done - and amazingly enough - covered (albeit as a movie) by TV shows and even some print media. Seems to take many decades before the truth is allowed to percolate into the base of common knowledge.

[SoapBox]

12. K & R

No More Clintons.

[billhicks76]

13. He Let Bush Sr Run Amuck

To secure access, prestige and $$$. He knew how to play ball to get what he wanted. He was Bush Sr's poodle. There is no hiding it anymore. History will not be kind.

[mckara]

14. Bill Clinton Left Out Most of the Story

There were reasons blacks resorted to sell cocaine and why the CIA was supplying drugs to intercity America: Iran Contra during the Reagan Administration.

[PatrynXX]

15. naturally some might guffaw at the language

But it is allowed on DU when needed and indeed that one totally appropriate. I'm skittish about doing it here now but my takeaway from that idiotic response was that he was suggesting BLM were supporting The Copkillers (thats is a misunderstood term btw. Cops that Kill hence Copkiller. Same era same shit. Don't want to spin the wheels in reverse.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

16. K & Mothafuckin' R

[ConsiderThis_2016]

18. The good'ol Clinton deflection move... :)

I was wondering when somebody was going to point this out. TY
"It all depends on what your definition of Is... is." --BC

[snooper2]

21. This isn't GD-Peeee by the way... is everyone forgetting which bar they are at?

LOL

[azmom]

22. Kick

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. The infamous photo of Bush, Wallace and Clinton

Well a little background, even though this was a governor conference at Bush's home in Maine, it was for handling Reagan's Drug War.

But at the same time, Bush was doing his Iran/Contra/CIA thing.



X CIA chief Bush and now VP Bush was in charge of the drug smuggling and was also Reagan's drug czar . Talk about a fox in the hen house.

The two important places the CIA used were Mena Arkansas and Enterprise Alabama


http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.dk/2012/08/siegelman-case-has-roots-in-iran-contra.html

[cwydro]

24. Wow, I had no idea the big dog was so hated on DU.

How quickly we forget.

[Democat]

26. A lot of people here are longing for the days of Bush Cheney

Hopefully they'll be gone soon.

[cwydro]

29. It sure seems so, doesn't it?

Smh.

[VOX]

30. Right??? What happened to the *D* in DU???

All this Big Dog bashing, Obama bashing, Democratic Party bashing...you'd think this was some, ahem, "other" site.

[cwydro]

33. It's sad.

I really had no idea that the Hillary hate had somehow now encompassed Bill as well.

Amazing.

[polly7]

35. I hate what his policies and greed did to so many people.

And that he had the nerve to double down on the bullshit directly to those who've suffered for decades because of them. No true remorse, understanding, empathy or compassion. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[underahedgerow]

25. Pfffft. Sitting at a table & posing for handshake pix isn't evidence or proof of anything,

other than people in the incredibly small world of politics attending the same social event.

Trying to claim some guilt by association in that teeny tiny world of politics, consisting mind you of just a couple thousand people, total, by Bill Clinton being somehow involved in a massive international drug trafficking conspiracy is just a load of hooey.

I read the stories decades ago, and now they're being conveniently recirculated now that Mrs. Clinton is running for President.

My bets are on that Lewinsky has been approached with a fat cash offer (or ten) to regurgitate her story as well, and ante up that bet with what's-her-name who claimed Bill flashed his willy at her. Oh the horror.

Guess what? Bill Clinton was never perfect and never claimed to be. I worked on a campaign of his waaaaaaaaaay back in the day, the guy couldn't keep his willy in his trousers, he was always waving that thing around. BUT he never hurt anyone, he never forced his attentions on anyone, he never intimidated or lied. He was a sweet talking, smoooooth guy with a great smile that could charm the pants off pretty much any interested female, and like a lotta guys, was absolutely certain he was born with the very first, and certainly most spectacular penis. So. What? Doesn't make him a criminal, much less a rapist. Just a horny smooth talker.

THAT was his worst 'crime'. Not drugs running, no grand conspiracy to infest communities with crack and blow. Trying to insert Clinton into the Mena/Barry Seal drug-running saga doesn't hold water. Trying to play the 'oh look, he's BEST friends with _________ (list criminals here) and ergo DON'T VOTE FOR A CLINTON, won't play to anyone with half a brain cell.

Look, Obama can't run for President again, which is a genuine tragedy. He is the best and brightest political leader in the past 150 years on this planet. I wish that Sanders had the true potential, but he doesn't have that certain 'it'. That star quality, that.... certain something. His finger isn't on any particular pulse, and I wish it were. He's good, and nearly great, but not good enough.

We all know the GOP doesn't have a leg to stand on; their field is tainted, polluted and just fetid and rotting from every crevasse. That leaves Mrs. Clinton, who is a genuinely esteemable, intelligent and compassionate person and woman. She'll do just fine.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. I reject those who 'can't keep it in their trousers' who also rail against marriage equality for God

as Hillary and Bill have done. DOMA came from an adulterer. He should have defended marriage from himself. Hillary just got done telling the world that Ron and Nancy were AIDS heroes when they were the unmitigated villains of the era.

I reject her candidacy.

[underahedgerow]

31. People's opinions change. Bill's infidelities have nothing to do with any LGBT issues, I can't

imagine any connection there.

In reference to DOMA, it's clear from all documentation that the Clinton administration considered the issue to be a state's issue, keeping in mind how quickly things change, blink, and it's some 20 years ago. Times and popular thinking changes rapidly in this day and age. Republicans turn into Democrats. It's great to have tattoos. It's cool and trendy even to be gender/sexuality/fluid. Bruce Jenner became a chick. Twerking is socially acceptable. People can change their minds. It's not a crime or even an injustice. The moment is now, and the statements now must be the ones we rely upon.

And just because the Reagan faction didn't know what to do about AIDS/HIV and didn't do precisely the best things absolutely necessary in hindsight, especially considering what we know now about AIDS/HIV, doesn't mean that a small bit of credit can't be given for, as Mrs. Clinton said, [sic] 'for starting a national conversation' about AIDS/HIV. They did that. It wasn't much, but shouting now that 'it wasn't enough' and somehow blaming Clinton for the Reagan era actions serves nothing. The road to cure for AIDS/HIV has been a very long one. It's a complex and complicated disease that is nearly 100% preventable on a personal level. But credit is due as it was during Reagan's tenure, in 1987 lest we forget, that critical actions involving protection of the US blood supply literally halted the spread of AIDS/HIV via blood transfusions. The national dialogue indeed began under Reagan, this is not false and it makes no sense to villify Clinton because of Reagan. Kind of falling off the chair, really, since she was speaking at a funeral. She was supposed to say what, exactly, at that particular time and place?

I'm no reagan fan, none whatsoever. But I will say this in a modicum of defense; Ronnie Reagan had absolutely no effing clue about what to do about anything unless he was told to. He was nothing more than a daft puppet manipulated by the bush cabal, in total, sum and completion. They practically told him when it was time to poop and how to wipe. He really was the accidental president and for his sake, I'm really glad that he lost all memory of the horrors he went through at the hands of the bush cabal. He was nothing more than a gentle fool who got rode hard.

You can give your vote to whomever you choose. But a vote for anyone but clinton when it comes down to the wire, will put trump in the white house. Don't blame me.