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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:58 PM Apr 2016

No, Planet Nine Will Not Send a Wave of Earth-Destroying Comets to Kill Us All

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2016/04/11/fear_mongering_articles_claim_planet_nine_might_kill_us_all.html

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Quite a few people on Twitter and Facebook pointed out this one to me. The guilty party is an article in the U.K. tabloid fish-wrappery the Sun posted on Wednesday. It had this breathless (and grossly ridiculous) headline: “Mysterious Planet Wiped Out Life on Earth Once and Could Do It Again THIS MONTH”.

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First, Planet Nine has not been “discovered.” At best, astronomers Batygin and Brown found indirect evidence for the existence of a massive planet out past Neptune (as have other astronomers before them). It’s pretty interesting evidence, even compelling, but does not yet add up to a discovery.

Second, Daniel Whitmire does not make the claim that the planet (if it exists) causes extinction events. In a recent paper, he does a bit of math showing that the existence of a trans-Neptunian planet is consistent with the idea of periodic showers of comets raining down on Earth (more on this in a moment), but he does not claim it actually does this. I’m also not sure the planet he hypothesizes is consistent with the evidence presented by Batygin and Brown; some of the orbital and planetary characteristics are similar, others aren’t.

Third, he doesn’t say it “killed all life” on Earth, because that would be really, really dumb. Mass extinctions don’t kill all life on Earth, or else we wouldn’t be here. They kill many, even most, species, but not all. I’m not nitpicking; in an article apparently designed to instill fear, phrasing like that is important.

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You do have to read the whole thing. It's awesome!

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No, Planet Nine Will Not Send a Wave of Earth-Destroying Comets to Kill Us All (Original Post) HuckleB Apr 2016 OP
So many disappointments. Orrex Apr 2016 #1
Wow. That is exactly the plot of "Queen Millenia". redgreenandblue Apr 2016 #2
Planet 9 has been proposed because something is messing up the Ooort Cloud Warpy Apr 2016 #3
We don't have to blow ourselves up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #12
Not so fast...you just say that so we all keep going about our business as usual. Rex Apr 2016 #4
Predator X, not a planet but a star. RedCloud Apr 2016 #5
"A star will pass within one light year of our star" tkmorris Apr 2016 #8
He's probably talking about Nemesis. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #21
Our solar system is NOT 3 light years across. You're off by "only" a factor of 1,000 NickB79 Apr 2016 #17
it will, on the other hand, bombard us with unsold prints of Ed Wood movies 0rganism Apr 2016 #6
Ouch! HuckleB Apr 2016 #19
NASA- 1st photos of Planet 9 sarisataka Apr 2016 #7
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #10
What? I thought it was one of the Jovian moons nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #13
Saturnian, actually. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #20
Thank you! nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #22
LOL! Awesome! HuckleB Apr 2016 #14
Looks like Iapetus: The Original Death Star OxQQme Apr 2016 #16
So Pluto is STILL pissed off about the demotion? hatrack Apr 2016 #9
Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong Kong Cavaliers will save us. nt TeamPooka Apr 2016 #11
But it's deadly and, like, approaching and shit. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2016 #15
Duck Dodgers from the 24th and one half century to the rescue. roamer65 Apr 2016 #18
Check with the wabbit. He's got something that might help. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #23
+1 HuckleB Apr 2016 #27
So the House has to come up with a budget after all? gratuitous Apr 2016 #24
Planet 9 from Outer Space? Dr. Strange Apr 2016 #25
Phew tymorial Apr 2016 #26
isn't it Planet X? n/t eniwetok Apr 2016 #28

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
2. Wow. That is exactly the plot of "Queen Millenia".
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

“Mysterious Planet Wiped Out Life on Earth Once and Could Do It Again THIS MONTH”.

Awesome show.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
3. Planet 9 has been proposed because something is messing up the Ooort Cloud
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

and they've just about ruled out anything else, including the perennial favorite of the black hole that's coming to eat us.

Even if it exists and sends showers of comets our way, they'd take a bloody long time to get here. If the human race can avoid blowing itself to hell by then, chances are we'd have a way to deflect them. Blowing ourselves to hell is the greater danger, in any case.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Not so fast...you just say that so we all keep going about our business as usual.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

We know the Secret Society of Voles paid you off handsomely. They probably had Space Elvis and Bigfoot (ever notice how Bigfoot isn't called Space Bigfoot - he just appears there somehow next to Elvis in the space ship) on it now, setting up Planet 9 (using super science!) from deep outer space - to hit earth during the Winter Solstice of 2012...er...2021.

I will inform Alex Jones so he may get a head start on chewing threw his restraint straps! Help him Batboy, you're my only hope!

RedCloud

(9,230 posts)
5. Predator X, not a planet but a star.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

A star will pass within one light year of our star. Since our solar system is now three light years across this spells trouble. And it does not even consider if said star brings its own solar system which could then... well ...

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
8. "A star will pass within one light year of our star"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

What on Earth are you talking about? Are you proposing a hypothetical? It sounds like you are stating this as a fact, and if so I'd REALLY like to know who is spreading such nonsense.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
21. He's probably talking about Nemesis.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:29 AM
Apr 2016

Some woontaics think there's a brown dwarf floating around transneptunian space hurling comets and asteroids at Earth.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
17. Our solar system is NOT 3 light years across. You're off by "only" a factor of 1,000
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:48 PM
Apr 2016

From the Sun to the Kuiper Belt, you're looking at 7.5 billion miles. So, diameter of Sol system is 15 billion miles.

A light year is 5.88 TRILLION miles. So, our solar system is roughly 0.002 light years in diameter.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. Thank you!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:31 AM
Apr 2016

It's been a few decades since that science project in Junior High. One of my favorites actually.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. So the House has to come up with a budget after all?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:41 AM
Apr 2016

Somebody let Speaker Ryan know; he seems to think the House doesn't have anything to do for the rest of the year.

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