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rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:48 AM Apr 2016

WATCH: Florida woman pulls gun on motorcyclists punching motorist to the ground

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/watch-florida-woman-pulls-gun-on-motorcyclists-punching-motorist-to-the-ground/comments/#disqus

When's the anniversary of Florida's shoot first law? A decade ago I thought it was just nuts..unbelievable. Since those years, I have come to understand that a gun is the proper solution to road rage and other situations like an argument between two drunks in a bar.
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WATCH: Florida woman pulls gun on motorcyclists punching motorist to the ground (Original Post) rusty quoin Apr 2016 OP
I saw three guys on bikes assaulting one guy from the beemer Xipe Totec Apr 2016 #1
Those asshats on the bikes put everyone's lives in danger with the way they were driving. cwydro Apr 2016 #2
wonder how many they'll kill before it catches up with them.....ugh....hate that. eom a kennedy Apr 2016 #7
We get the ninja screaming stunt riders all around us. pintobean Apr 2016 #8
YEah, they'll be scraping those guys off the road sooner or later. cwydro Apr 2016 #16
The guy in the beemer wasn't switching lanes. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #3
power-tripping? pintobean Apr 2016 #4
I saw a video where everybody was a fucking idiot- beemer driver included snooper2 Apr 2016 #17
The guy in the Beemer wasn't originally at fault. trumad Apr 2016 #5
So you don't see anything at all wrong with beemer guy stradling the centerline... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #6
There's plenty of stupid to go around for everyone Major Nikon Apr 2016 #9
Hell no 30Draw Apr 2016 #10
No! I've NEVER seen a "Slower traffic keep right" sign... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #11
You're wrong , don't support reckless drivers 30Draw Apr 2016 #12
No, it's you that's wrong. It's you that's supporting the reckless beemer dude. I don't support... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #13
Lol 30Draw Apr 2016 #14
And you're supporting a motorist who was using his car to block the bikers. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #15
Are you insane. trumad Apr 2016 #19
Are you insane? I don't know why you had to post a personal insult to make your point? What... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #20
Oh come on--- trumad Apr 2016 #21
I'm not the one being insulting over a post that's not worth insulting your fellow DUers over. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #22
I'm guessing you'll rationalize that telling someone that they support reckless drivers LanternWaste Apr 2016 #26
You always post stuff twice, I've been meaning to tune that out. Thanks. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #27
At exactly the 1:00 mark in the video. Sign reads: "Slower Traffic Keep Right". Glassunion Apr 2016 #38
Florida Statute 316.081 flvegan Apr 2016 #42
I saw him try to switch to the slow lane and paused halfway through the lane change Xipe Totec Apr 2016 #23
Ex-fricking-actly trumad Apr 2016 #29
Macho future organ doners MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #18
I ride a motorcycle. Glassunion Apr 2016 #24
This. frylock Apr 2016 #25
I don't get how people see the Beemer cutting off the bikers. trumad Apr 2016 #28
You're thinking of the first encounter. Glassunion Apr 2016 #30
The first encounter the Beemer tried to get over trumad Apr 2016 #32
I totally agree with you on the first encounter. Glassunion Apr 2016 #37
Exactly, he should have continued on his way, expecting to see a few piles of mangled underahedgerow Apr 2016 #49
Everyone in this video is... a Floridian. sofa king Apr 2016 #31
Oh come on trumad Apr 2016 #33
Heh, yes... sofa king Apr 2016 #35
LOL trumad Apr 2016 #47
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. LeftyMom Apr 2016 #46
No, everyone in this video was in Florida at the time pintobean Apr 2016 #34
Forgive me. sofa king Apr 2016 #36
Right? My daughter lives/works in Orlando. 80 percent of the idiots on the roads ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #48
next time anyone in your state does something assholish, I'll be sure to broadbrush the entire state steve2470 Apr 2016 #39
Yeah, go ahead. sofa king Apr 2016 #40
You do realize this works for any state... Let's look at my state. Glassunion Apr 2016 #41
(Oh yes, I know.) sofa king Apr 2016 #43
What the fuck is a suspicious bag of bacon? Glassunion Apr 2016 #44
Pig in a poke, I reckon Major Nikon Apr 2016 #45

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
1. I saw three guys on bikes assaulting one guy from the beemer
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

I also saw that the three guys on the bikes were weaving through traffic so fast that the rest of the traffic seemed to be standing still. This went on for most of the video.

I saw one of the bikers make contact with the beemer early on when the beemer was switching lanes to the right and the bike came up from behind and passed him on the right hand side.

I saw the woman in the beemer pull out a gun on the bikers after they assaulted the guy and knocked him to the ground.

Even then she did not pull the trigger but just waved the gun at them.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
2. Those asshats on the bikes put everyone's lives in danger with the way they were driving.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:46 AM
Apr 2016

That recklessness will catch up with them one day.

a kennedy

(35,995 posts)
7. wonder how many they'll kill before it catches up with them.....ugh....hate that. eom
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
8. We get the ninja screaming stunt riders all around us.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:37 AM
Apr 2016

A few months ago, one of them killed himself by broadsiding a van. He was doing over 100 in a 30.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. YEah, they'll be scraping those guys off the road sooner or later.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

I just hope they don't take anyone with them.

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
3. The guy in the beemer wasn't switching lanes.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:13 AM
Apr 2016

I think he saw these guys speeding behind him and decided to slow them down. He was in the middle of the road and switched lanes to cut off the biker.

I've seen this before, people power-tripping.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. I saw a video where everybody was a fucking idiot- beemer driver included
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

As long as they keep the stupid in Floriduh I'm happy, they will be underwater soon enough

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
5. The guy in the Beemer wasn't originally at fault.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

Bikers were crazy fast and crazy weaving.

With that said...he should have let them go and not take on 3 guys.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
6. So you don't see anything at all wrong with beemer guy stradling the centerline...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:20 AM
Apr 2016

...right in front of the riders? That wasn't crazy or dangerous?

From what I saw, that's what started the entire thing.

 

30Draw

(46 posts)
10. Hell no
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

He was moving over to the slow lane to let the reckless drivers pass on the left. Never seen the 'slower traffic keep right' signs??

These guys hit his car and then fled the scene of the collision. Then they beat him when he tried to get them to stop.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
11. No! I've NEVER seen a "Slower traffic keep right" sign...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016


And, hell yes, the goddamned beemer dude certainly did straddle the line and was not doing it in order to move to the slow lane.

Again:
 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
13. No, it's you that's wrong. It's you that's supporting the reckless beemer dude. I don't support...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

...anyone in that video. Three wrongs (including yours) does not make any of it right.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
19. Are you insane.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

The bikers looked to running about 100 mph. The guy in the BMW was trying to get over but did it carefully---BECAUSE---he see's them flying from the rear so he wasn't sure which lane they would pass on. He wasn't trying to impede their progress---he was trying to get the hell out of the way.

A bit after that you see a biker passing a car on the right shoulder.

I've ridden bikes my whole life and these little crotch rocket assholes give law abiding bikers a black eye.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
20. Are you insane? I don't know why you had to post a personal insult to make your point? What...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

...the fuck is wrong with you today? You've never been insulting to me before.

You think just because I see it differently that gives you license to insult me and imply that I am crazy somehow?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
22. I'm not the one being insulting over a post that's not worth insulting your fellow DUers over. nt
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. I'm guessing you'll rationalize that telling someone that they support reckless drivers
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

I'm guessing you'll rationalize that telling someone that they support reckless drivers is not insulting at all... that it's merely an observation or a conclusion or some such nonsense.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
38. At exactly the 1:00 mark in the video. Sign reads: "Slower Traffic Keep Right".
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

Just sayin'

flvegan

(66,281 posts)
42. Florida Statute 316.081
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

We actually have a law that covers this. It's even made the news fairly recently as a reminder.

That said, the bikers and the BMW driver are all idiots.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
23. I saw him try to switch to the slow lane and paused halfway through the lane change
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

Because he saw the biker coming up from behind and switching lanes as well.

I've been caught like that sometimes, trying to get out of the way of a fast oncoming vehicle that doesn't give me a chance to yield the hight speed lane.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
29. Ex-fricking-actly
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

Dude wasnt sure what the bikers were doing. People here act like he wqas trying to cut the bikers off. He wasn't.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
24. I ride a motorcycle.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

And it's assholes like this who gives us a bad name.

I also drive a BMW, and it's assholes like this who give us a bad name.

The assholes on the bikes were being, well... assholes.

The asshole in the BMW could have prevented becoming an asshole, by not following, then cutting them off after the bike assholes came up on him in the first place. He should have never stepped out of his car.

Damn assholes.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
28. I don't get how people see the Beemer cutting off the bikers.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

The bikers were at least going 100. You see something coming up on you that fast you kind of freeze---should i move over or let them pass on the left. The dude was trying to move over. Did you see the biker pass on the left shoulder a little bit later in the video.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
30. You're thinking of the first encounter.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

The second time after the Beemer catches up, it cuts off the bike with the camera. At about 1:27 in the video.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
32. The first encounter the Beemer tried to get over
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

But the biker who was flying at a high speed came up on the passenger side and slapped at the beemers side mirror. Not sure if he broke it or not.

This pissed the Beemer off and hence the chase. At 1:27 the Beemer comes into the picture and moves into the right lane...in front of the biker shooting the video. I wouldn't call that cutting him off...heck the biker didn't even slow down.

Look---they are all idiots...I just think the bikers were the bigger idiots.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
37. I totally agree with you on the first encounter.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

IMO the BMW saw the bike coming up quickly in his rear view, went to move out of the way, saw another bike coming up quickly in the right, he hovered there, not sure what to do. Saw the bike in the right lane slow up and thought he could get out of the way by moving to the right, however by then the bike in the right lane had sped back up. He was screwed no matter what he did. Stay in the left and block up a bike coming up on him at excessive speed, or move to the right and block up a bike coming up on him at excessive speed.

If you look at the second encounter, regardless of whether or not the bike slowed up, he did cut that bike off. The bike was in the middle-left of the lane, and the Beemer was cutting into the right side of the lane parallel to the bike. Basically not allowing the bike full use of their lane (illegal), and cuts in, forcing the bike to the far right of the lane.

The bikes were playing stupid games, and the BMW driver let it get the best of him. If it were me, and a biker hit my mirror, I'd catch up, get a plate number then back off and let them continue on their way being assholes. Yes, they may very well kill someone else or themselves down the road, and I'd forever play the "what if I had done something more to stop them" game in my head for years to come. But simply backing off and reporting to the police is the safest course of action for all involved at that moment.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
49. Exactly, he should have continued on his way, expecting to see a few piles of mangled
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:25 AM
Apr 2016

corpses further down the road.

He chose to give chase, get out of his car and confront the idiots. That was the car-driver's mistake.

I CHOOSE to give bike morons as much road as possible. Inevitably, some day, one day, they'll maybe learn their lesson and hopefully won't hurt anyone else or get seriously injured. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.

And I saw the bikers passing on the right a couple times I believe, which always scares the crap out of me.

Honestly, on the freeway I use my rear-view mirrors almost as much as I look front (left and right of course, too). That one habit alone has literally saved my life countless times.

I call bike riders pulling stunts like that 'organ donors' and Darwins. Hope their cards are up to date.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
35. Heh, yes...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

... because at least some California drivers are not utter fools, and thus can give chase.

The fools in the video above had forgotten what happened by the next stoplight, four hundred meters down the road. By then even the cameraman was off dealing with other forms of derp, like stalling his bike.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
47. LOL
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

So you are saying that the people being chased by cops in a high speed chase are not fools.

Ok...gotcha!

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
46. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

We in Superior California have them beat on kidnappings, weird serial killers, and hostage situations, but we almost never have a good car chase.

We did have a fugitive who eluded the police via tractorjacking a few years back.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
34. No, everyone in this video was in Florida at the time
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

that the video was taken.
There is no evidence that they are all Floridians.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
48. Right? My daughter lives/works in Orlando. 80 percent of the idiots on the roads
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

with her everyday are in rental cars.

steve2470

(37,481 posts)
39. next time anyone in your state does something assholish, I'll be sure to broadbrush the entire state
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

GMAFB.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
40. Yeah, go ahead.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

And when you do, I will do a Google news search for "Florida Man," and we shall see who needs the broad brush, and who does not.

Here, have a taste of the roller right now:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=%22florida+man%22

Florida man turns himself in on 27-year-old warrant for stealing a TV from a Jewish center in Connecticut

Florida man says too much music, masturbation made him vandalize home

Florida man accused of hanging dog over balcony by throat

Florida man upset over message left on Starbucks cup

...



This is just what's coming up today, man. What will tomorrow bring?

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
41. You do realize this works for any state... Let's look at my state.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

Pennsylvania man arrested for lying about role in first Liberian civil war

Pennsylvania man pleads to tractor joyride that hurt friend

Pennsylvania man sets up fake DUI checkpoint, gets charged with DUI

Pennsylvania man jailed in shooting over pet hermit crab

etc...

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
43. (Oh yes, I know.)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:15 PM
Apr 2016

But I can't help making fun of the Florida Man phenomenon. In fairness, we only need one from Virginia today:

Virginia man with 'suspicious bacon' takes plea deal

http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/article_d0cc0e72-b1e9-5568-bb15-a5f36504f906.html

A Madison Heights man accused of wearing a camouflage mask on a neighbor’s property with a firearm and suspicious bag of bacon pleaded guilty Wednesday to misdemeanor counts of carrying a gun while intoxicated and trespassing.

...

Arriving to the scene, Amherst County Sheriff’s Deputy Susan Jackson spotted Cater lying face down in the woods with a camouflage shirt and camouflage hunting mask and a semi-automatic handgun fully loaded, said Childress. A few feet away was a bag of raw bacon with a sticky, oily substance that later was found to have contained an engine lubricant oil, Childress said.

...

Cater did not say why he had the bacon, Childress said. During questioning, Cater said, “I only put the bacon in the bag. Nothing else,” Childress said.

...

(Oh, but the stupid does not end there. Consider your Halloween options carefully in my fair Commonwealth.)

Cater is a military veteran with no prior criminal history, a factor in the commonwealth not prosecuting a felony charge of wearing a mask in public and two misdemeanor counts of drunk in public and attempting to poison a companion animal, Childress said.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
44. What the fuck is a suspicious bag of bacon?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:11 PM
Apr 2016

I can't stop laughing.

Holy shit I'm crying.

Officer: "Why that's a mighty suspicious bag of bacon."
Other officer: "You high?"
Officer: "Better call SWAT!"
Other officer: "For bacon?"
Officer: "Tazer! Tazer! Tazer!"
Other officer: "The fuck are you doing? It's just bacon!"
Officer: "You smell that?... <long pause>... "Smells like victory."

Suspicious Bacon = New band name.

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